QUESTION: New membership application: .tc
Dear Abibu, All, Sorry, I am a little late with my question but could anyone please explain what does the response from IANA Services actually mean: “Even though John Williams is still listed in the IANA Root Zone Database, we know from discussions with .TC operators and the TC Regulatory Authority that Mr. John Williams is no longer serving in this capacity. Melrex (the TLD Manager) and TCI Telecommunications Commission are in discussions about operating .TC going forward” If I understand it correctly, there are discussions and IANA is informed about them even though there are no formal requests to transfer the ccTLD. Correct? Technically, it should not be our concern who is the admin contact as long as the TLD Manager is correct. But if we are informed about the discussions, maybe we should at least inquire what is going on there? As we have no formal procedure for dealing with issues like this, we need to agree on the way forward. What is your opinion? Thank you! Regards, ]{atrina From: Ccnso-council [mailto:ccnso-council-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Abibu R. Ntahigiye Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 4:09 PM To: ccnso-council@icann.org Subject: [ccnso-council] New membership application: .tc Dear All, The ccNSO Secretariat has received a new application for ccNSO membership, from .tc (Turks and Caicos Islands). Kindly provide me with your input by the end of 19 February 2019 23:59 UTC, in case you do not agree with the ccNSO membership accreditation. The following checks have been completed for this ccNSO membership application: * The ccNSO Secretariat confirms that the application details are those of the ccTLD Manager as specified in the IANA Database * The ccNSO Secretariat informed the IANA Services staff about the membership application. * IANA Services provided the following information: 1. There are no currently pending requests for .TC 2. Even though John Williams is still listed in the IANA Root Zone Database, we know from discussions with .TC operators and the TC Regulatory Authority that Mr. John Williams is no longer serving in this capacity. Melrex (the TLD Manager) and TCI Telecommunications Commission are in discussions about operating .TC going forward. Details of the application: Name of ccTLD Manager: Melrex TC Name of Representative: John Williams Name of Primary Contact: John Williams Primary Contact Address: TCI Telecommunications Commission P.O. Box 203 872 Business Solutions Building Leeward Highway Providenciales Turks And Caicos Islands Primary Contact Telephone Number: 649-946-1900 Primary Contact E-Mail: johnwilliams@tcitelecommission.tc <mailto:johnwilliams@tcitelecommission.tc> rgds -- Eng. Abibu R. Ntahigiye | CEO, Tanzania Network Information Centre, 147 Kambarage Road - Mikocheni Tel: +255 (22) 2772659 | Mobile: +255 767 279511 Fax: +255 (22) 2772660 Email: abibu@tznic.or.tz <mailto:abibu@tznic.or.tz> | Website: www.tznic.or.tz <http://www.tznic.or.tz> Visit www.karibu.tz <http://www.karibu.tz> for your .tz domain registration
Dear Katrina, Now that you mentioned it, I wholeheartedly agree with your appreciation that we should have a formal procedure to manage this type of situations. Best regards, This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 10:45 AM Katrina Sataki <katrina@nic.lv> wrote:
Dear Abibu, All,
Sorry, I am a little late with my question but could anyone please explain what does the response from IANA Services actually mean:
“*Even though John Williams is still listed in the IANA Root Zone Database, we know from discussions with .TC operators and the TC Regulatory Authority that Mr. John Williams is no longer serving in this capacity. Melrex (the TLD Manager) and **TCI Telecommunications Commission are in discussions about operating .TC going forward”*
If I understand it correctly, there are discussions and IANA is informed about them even though there are no formal requests to transfer the ccTLD. Correct?
Technically, it should not be our concern who is the admin contact as long as the TLD Manager is correct. But if we are informed about the discussions, maybe we should at least inquire what is going on there? As we have no formal procedure for dealing with issues like this, we need to agree on the way forward.
What is your opinion?
Thank you!
Regards,
]{atrina
*From:* Ccnso-council [mailto:ccnso-council-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Abibu R. Ntahigiye *Sent:* Thursday, February 14, 2019 4:09 PM *To:* ccnso-council@icann.org *Subject:* [ccnso-council] New membership application: .tc
Dear All,
The ccNSO Secretariat has received a new application for ccNSO membership, from .tc (Turks and Caicos Islands). Kindly provide me with your input by the end of 19 February 2019 23:59 UTC, in case you do not agree with the ccNSO membership accreditation.
The following checks have been completed for this ccNSO membership application:
- The ccNSO Secretariat confirms that the application details are those of the ccTLD Manager as specified in the IANA Database - The ccNSO Secretariat informed the IANA Services staff about the membership application. - IANA Services provided the following information:
1. *There are no currently pending requests for .TC*
2. *Even though John Williams is still listed in the IANA Root Zone Database, we know from discussions with .TC operators and the TC Regulatory Authority that Mr. John Williams is no longer serving in this capacity. Melrex (the TLD Manager) and **TCI Telecommunications Commission are in discussions about operating .TC going forward.*
Details of the application:
Name of ccTLD Manager: Melrex TC
Name of Representative: John Williams
Name of Primary Contact: John Williams
Primary Contact Address:
TCI Telecommunications Commission
P.O. Box 203
872 Business Solutions Building Leeward Highway
Providenciales
Turks And Caicos Islands
Primary Contact Telephone Number: 649-946-1900
Primary Contact E-Mail: johnwilliams@tcitelecommission.tc
rgds
--
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Tel: +255 (22) 2772659 | Mobile: +255 767 279511 Fax: +255 (22) 2772660
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Dear Katrina I raised this same concern when .kw requested to become a member, regarding whether it was the ccNSO council "concern" to look for the accuracy of the IANA database or if this is something that should stop the ccNSO membership. 🤔 To me it doesn't make sense that we accept a request from someone who is known not to be the current TLD manager. Maybe we could ask the people from .tc for clarification? Best regards, Alejandra -- [image: Photograph] *Alejandra Reynoso*Investigación & Desarrollo | Dominios .gt *P:* +502 23688565 *E:* alejandra.reynoso@cctld.gt 18 Ave. 11 <https://maps.google.com/?q=18+Ave.+11&entry=gmail&source=g>-42 Zona 15, V.H. III. Guatemala, Guatemala www.gt On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 8:45 AM Katrina Sataki <katrina@nic.lv> wrote:
Dear Abibu, All,
Sorry, I am a little late with my question but could anyone please explain what does the response from IANA Services actually mean:
“*Even though John Williams is still listed in the IANA Root Zone Database, we know from discussions with .TC operators and the TC Regulatory Authority that Mr. John Williams is no longer serving in this capacity. Melrex (the TLD Manager) and **TCI Telecommunications Commission are in discussions about operating .TC going forward”*
If I understand it correctly, there are discussions and IANA is informed about them even though there are no formal requests to transfer the ccTLD. Correct?
Technically, it should not be our concern who is the admin contact as long as the TLD Manager is correct. But if we are informed about the discussions, maybe we should at least inquire what is going on there? As we have no formal procedure for dealing with issues like this, we need to agree on the way forward.
What is your opinion?
Thank you!
Regards,
]{atrina
*From:* Ccnso-council [mailto:ccnso-council-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Abibu R. Ntahigiye *Sent:* Thursday, February 14, 2019 4:09 PM *To:* ccnso-council@icann.org *Subject:* [ccnso-council] New membership application: .tc
Dear All,
The ccNSO Secretariat has received a new application for ccNSO membership, from .tc (Turks and Caicos Islands). Kindly provide me with your input by the end of 19 February 2019 23:59 UTC, in case you do not agree with the ccNSO membership accreditation.
The following checks have been completed for this ccNSO membership application:
- The ccNSO Secretariat confirms that the application details are those of the ccTLD Manager as specified in the IANA Database - The ccNSO Secretariat informed the IANA Services staff about the membership application. - IANA Services provided the following information:
1. *There are no currently pending requests for .TC*
2. *Even though John Williams is still listed in the IANA Root Zone Database, we know from discussions with .TC operators and the TC Regulatory Authority that Mr. John Williams is no longer serving in this capacity. Melrex (the TLD Manager) and **TCI Telecommunications Commission are in discussions about operating .TC going forward.*
Details of the application:
Name of ccTLD Manager: Melrex TC
Name of Representative: John Williams
Name of Primary Contact: John Williams
Primary Contact Address:
TCI Telecommunications Commission
P.O. Box 203
872 Business Solutions Building Leeward Highway
Providenciales
Turks And Caicos Islands
Primary Contact Telephone Number: 649-946-1900
Primary Contact E-Mail: johnwilliams@tcitelecommission.tc
rgds
--
Eng. Abibu R. Ntahigiye | CEO, Tanzania Network Information Centre, 147 Kambarage Road - Mikocheni
Tel: +255 (22) 2772659 | Mobile: +255 767 279511 Fax: +255 (22) 2772660
Email: abibu@tznic.or.tz | Website: www.tznic.or.tz
Visit www.karibu.tz for your .tz domain registration
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Dear Katrina, Alejandra and all, My response to Katrina is that "IANA is aware that John is listed in the IANA database but he is not the current operator /admin contact for the registry". As for Alejandra, I believe that it is IANA's and current operator's responsibility to make sure that the database is accurate and my proposal going forward is to wait for IANA /current operator to perfect/update its records before we approve the membership. Alternatively, we could have conditional approval (say for 3 months) until when the database is corrected. This way the current operator will have the task to update the database within the given period. Kind regards. On 21/02/2019 02:07, Alejandra Reynoso wrote:
Dear Katrina
I raised this same concern when .kw requested to become a member, regarding whether it was the ccNSO council "concern" to look for the accuracy of the IANA database or if this is something that should stop the ccNSO membership. 🤔
To me it doesn't make sense that we accept a request from someone who is known not to be the current TLD manager. Maybe we could ask the people from .tc for clarification?
Best regards, Alejandra
--
Photograph *Alejandra Reynoso *Investigación & Desarrollo | Dominios .gt *P:* +502 23688565 *E:*alejandra.reynoso@cctld.gt <mailto:alejandra.reynoso@cctld.gt> 18 Ave. 11 <https://maps.google.com/?q=18+Ave.+11&entry=gmail&source=g>-42 Zona 15, V.H. III. Guatemala, Guatemala www.gt <http://www.gt/>
On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 8:45 AM Katrina Sataki <katrina@nic.lv <mailto:katrina@nic.lv>> wrote:
Dear Abibu, All,
Sorry, I am a little late with my question but could anyone please explain what does the response from IANA Services actually mean:
“/Even though John Williams is still listed in the IANA Root Zone Database, we know from discussions with .TC operators and the TC Regulatory Authority that Mr. John Williams is no longer serving in this capacity. Melrex (the TLD Manager) and //TCI Telecommunications Commission are in discussions about operating .TC going forward”/
If I understand it correctly, there are discussions and IANA is informed about them even though there are no formal requests to transfer the ccTLD. Correct?
Technically, it should not be our concern who is the admin contact as long as the TLD Manager is correct. But if we are informed about the discussions, maybe we should at least inquire what is going on there? As we have no formal procedure for dealing with issues like this, we need to agree on the way forward.
What is your opinion?
Thank you!
Regards,
]{atrina
*From:*Ccnso-council [mailto:ccnso-council-bounces@icann.org <mailto:ccnso-council-bounces@icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *Abibu R. Ntahigiye *Sent:* Thursday, February 14, 2019 4:09 PM *To:* ccnso-council@icann.org <mailto:ccnso-council@icann.org> *Subject:* [ccnso-council] New membership application: .tc
Dear All,
The ccNSO Secretariat has received a new application for ccNSO membership, from .tc (Turks and Caicos Islands). Kindly provide me with your input by the end of 19 February 2019 23:59 UTC, in case you do not agree with the ccNSO membership accreditation.
The following checks have been completed for this ccNSO membership application:
* The ccNSO Secretariat confirms that the application details are those of the ccTLD Manager as specified in the IANA Database * The ccNSO Secretariat informed the IANA Services staff about the membership application. * IANA Services provided the following information:
1./There are no currently pending requests for .TC/
2./Even though John Williams is still listed in the IANA Root Zone Database, we know from discussions with .TC operators and the TC Regulatory Authority that Mr. John Williams is no longer serving in this capacity. Melrex (the TLD Manager) and //TCI Telecommunications Commission are in discussions about operating .TC going forward./
Details of the application:
Name of ccTLD Manager: Melrex TC
Name of Representative: John Williams
Name of Primary Contact: John Williams
Primary Contact Address:
TCI Telecommunications Commission
P.O. Box 203
872 Business Solutions Building Leeward Highway
Providenciales
Turks And Caicos Islands
Primary Contact Telephone Number: 649-946-1900
Primary Contact E-Mail: johnwilliams@tcitelecommission.tc <mailto:johnwilliams@tcitelecommission.tc>
rgds
--
Eng. Abibu R. Ntahigiye | CEO, Tanzania Network Information Centre, 147 Kambarage Road - Mikocheni
Tel: +255 (22) 2772659 | Mobile: +255 767 279511 Fax: +255 (22) 2772660
Email:abibu@tznic.or.tz <mailto:abibu@tznic.or.tz> | Website:www.tznic.or.tz <http://www.tznic.or.tz>
Visitwww.karibu.tz <http://www.karibu.tz> for your .tz domain registration
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participants (4)
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Abibu R. Ntahigiye -
Alejandra Reynoso -
Katrina Sataki -
Pablo Rodriguez