NOTES | ccNSO PGA WG | Tuesday, 27 August 2024 at 20:00 UTC

 



  1. Welcome

 

Welcome by Jordan Carter



2.            Administrative matters



a.            SOI updates

 

The ccNSO Statement of Interest form:  https://forms.gle/79Jw4wSnNhn5W4Z46

Check your SOI here:  https://community.icann.org/x/doAFEg



  1. Tour de table

 

Pengyu Zhu: CNNIC. 4 am here now. 

Peter Van Roste: GM CENTR. one of the most important pieces of work for the ccNSO

Laxmi: .np 

Abdalmonem: director numbering and planning telecom operator Egypt. Egypt idn ccTLD

Atsushi: JPRS (.jp). deputy vice president planning division

Chris D: Council member. additional notes missing

Diego Ernesto: .co - additional notes missing

Eduardo: .hn link between ccTLD and community. doing social work. joint efforts

Federica: lactld

Irina: .ru on council when work started. member of the ad hoc group at the time

Kim Davies: heads up the IANA team. responsible for implementing the global policies. overseeing staff doing the transfers

Laura: uruguay. I am alac liaison to ccnso. I am observing. 

Maria: .co

Mirjana: .rs Serbian registry. i am a member of the GRC for at least 10 years. 

Pablo: .pr been with registry for at least 20 years. council member.

Rocio: GM LACTLD

Selina: manager iana operations. iana resource for this group

Svetlana: .ru 



  1. Nomination Chair

 

ccNSO Council nominated Jordan as interim chair. 

Council will formally appoint the chair of the PGA at its next Council meeting



3.            PGA deliverables as per its Charter

 

Agenda item 3: charter

https://ccnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/field-attached/charter-pga-wg-13jun24-en.pdf

 

Jordan: situation with a ccTLD led to a response by council.  a small group of council members convened. the ad hoc group.

see introductory paragraph of the charter

 

Ad-Hoc Group) began to explore a range of issues, including:

● Potential for consolidation of core policy - currently there are a variety of policy

documents, which only partly describe the actual policy. For example, RFC 1591

includes a lot of language around gTLDs and language that has become obsolete

with respect to ccTLDs.

● Unaddressed identified issues – Over time situation have emerged and been

identified that are not addressed in policies or agreed upon practices

● Emerging issues that have never been contemplated.

 

Foundational responsibility of the ccNSO. Ad hoc did not feel like the right way to move forward. hence the more formal creation of the PGA WG.

 

The objective of the PGA WG is to:

A. Complete preparation of an overview of ccNSO policies and guidance related to

ccTLDs and present the overview at ICANN81.

B. Provide details to Council and ccTLD community on any gaps in the current

policies, guidance or practices pertaining to the delegation, transfer, revocation

and retirement of ccTLDs, and other related IANA Naming Functions for ccTLDs

(hereafter: Gaps, or Gap), and

C. Advise the ccNSO Council if, the order and how these Gaps need to be addressed

by the ccNSO. tools? report, study group, full pdp as some examples.

 

Abdalmonem: how could we go for the gaps? do we need community input? will we review the policies and list the gaps and present our findings to the community?

Jordan: combination. 

Bart: not only gaps in the policy. See also discussion in Kigali. depends on how you qualify the gap, which tool you use to address. a gap could also mean in the interpretation or implementation of the policy. 

Jordan: any questions about the objectives? none

Jordan: working with PTI and IANA, and propose an order of the gaps. not wise to fix everything at once. see agenda item 5

Diego: how do we know there is a mistake in the policy? gap in the interpretation?

Bart: different interpretations. example. include as background. if you would have a look at the Framework of Interpretation, it provides interpretation for RFC1591. source doc for revocation etc of ccTLDs. ultimately it is the call of this group, whether this is interpretation or implementation. this group to propose to community

Abdalmonem: question

Jordan: if we identify a gap, we will suggest the tool as well. this group does not decide on a new policy. that will require follow-up work. it will involve consultations with the ccNSO community, and beyond. 

Bart: hypotehticals driven by experiences from iana. 

Jordan: iana deals with most cctlds as anyone in icann org. they experience most vividly what the gaps mean. work openly and cooperatively with the iana team. as clear and complete as possible. 

Jordan: Framework of Internpretation (FOI) https://ccnso.icann.org/en/workinggroups/foi-final-07oct14-en.pdf 




4.            What has been done to date?

 

https://community.icann.org/display/ccnsowkspc/Background+Material 

 

Bart: starting doc. 

11 areas to further discuss and work on.

4 of them were discussed in San Juan and in Kigali. Results from these discussions can be used by the PGA WG. You will see a series of questions by iana that drive the discussion. 

 

Bart: 2nd one. 

clearly one of the objectives. overview applicable polcies and advisories. needs to be updated. contains an overview in table format of all relevant policies. starting with policy mandate of the ccnso. 

 

interprtation of the section of the FOI inserted. assumption of the policy

 

Jordan: start with the 2nd doc on the list. that is the best way to start. then start looking at doc 5 on this list. it will give you the context. number 2 doc is the kind of output we are asked to prepare for the istanbul meeting.



5.            Setting priorities for next steps



6.            AOB



7.            Next meeting

 

Suggestion is to meet every 2 weeks. 

10 September 

24 September



a.            Rotation

 

timing, seen the geographical diversity of the group.

Bart: we will share an overview of the geo distribution of the group members, and come up wth 2 or 3 times. rotate between those times. if you miss the meeting, there will be a recording. decisions will be made only after a second reading/meeting.



8.            Closure

 

Bart: nominate a chair and vice chair online. 

Jordan: if you want to nominate someone, send email to group. also accept or reject when you have been nominated. 

Decision at the next meeting.

 

Peter: How will we organise and provide input? Mainly meetings? Collaborative docs?

Jordan: ad hoc. written input, and discussions. that is how we approeached it in the past. more info at the next meeting. 

Bart: pdf, to ensure accessible to all. baseline. cannot be edited. we could turn them into google doc for collaboration.

 

Jordan: homework

 

 

 

Joke Braeken

joke.braeken@icann.org