On 2017-09-05 17:17, Erika Mann wrote:

Indeed, we don't even need to discuss this topic further.

I agree it's out of scope.

Can we just be pointed to the place where these application fees refund discussions are happening  ? (e.g. in another ICANN group). Thanks.

Erika

On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:21 PM, Jon Nevett <jon@donuts.email> wrote:

Sean:  No refunds from the auction proceeds were committed to or
anticipated. Not sure where this idea is coming from. Jon

On Sep 5, 2017, at 10:13 AM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>
wrote:

+1 to that Alberto line of reasoning Alberto. Though it will be good
to know if ICANN has indeed legally committed (as per contract) to
provide some refunds from auction proceed.

If that is the case i don't think its something within our scope to
challenge we will just then need to clarify from ICANN how much is
really available and accessible in the auction proceeds account.

Regards

On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Alberto Soto
<asoto@ibero-americano.org> wrote:
do not know how the signed contract is. I do not know if the return
is
correct. Whoever buys a restaurant and does not get profitability
does so at
their own risk. Who buys a domain and does not obtain profitability,
does so
at their own risk. ICANN should not be the guarantee if no
profitability is
obtained.

Regards
Alberto

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De: ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org
[mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org] En nombre de Daniel
Dardailler
Enviado el: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 6:56 AM
Para: John R. Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
CC: ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org
Asunto: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] lotsa money, was Fwd: Board reply
to
CCWG-AP

On 2017-09-04 23:48, John R. Levine wrote:

Is the current financial position of ICANN really an impediment

to

what ICANN wants to do in support of its mission ? I was under

the

impression that ICANN's budget was healthy enough to implement

its

mission optimally today, with also a large untouched pot coming

from

the new gTLD application process (unused legal costs if I

understand

correctly).

Not really.  ICANN's operating budget is fully committed.  There

is

indeed a lot of unspent new gTLD application money, but it's a

whole

separate can of worms.  It's not ours to spend and since ICANN

said

the price was set to cover their costs, the obvious and ethical

thing

to do will be to refund the excess to the applicants.

I kind of agree with the ethical part (although I haven't read the
contract
those applicants signed and what was promised in writing) but is it
really
going to be obvious to refund hundreds of applicants, some of them
potentially gone as a business ?

R's,
John

PS:

How is it different to give away the funds to the ICANN community
(for projects aligned with the ICANN mission) vs. to give them

back

to the board directly, given that the board is driven by the

community ?

Well, actually, it's the board's money to give away, not ours.

We're

just offering them advice.

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