Maybe a googledoc or another tool for editing a document as a group?
Thanks Daniel. I also follow the core values discussion from the distance.
I just tried to compile comments into a text that puts them in context for a preamble… it will be great if you could try to add your comments there? It is a bit hard to capture the essence of what people are trying to change, so it might be better if we do it as a collective.
Maybe a googledoc or another tool for editing a document as a group?
Regards,
Sylvia
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On 7/9/17, 1:56 am, "Daniel Dardailler" <danield@w3.org> wrote:
BTW, I have meant to mention it for a while, I participate (from a
distance) in the IGF Dynamic Coalition on Internet Core Values, which
relates to our Open Internet description.
It's still work-progress, but you can get a recent listing of those core
values at
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d7pUJzpEBbZPsLLzEaDovlhc4LKAuu8_B4XogIJjG3g/edit
On 2017-09-06 14:43, Daniel Dardailler wrote:Hello Sylvia, allI like the new definition, but I want to come back to the part thatrefers to "equally accessible to all people for _all purposes_".By that core principle, any society where even a few things areforbidden to promote (online or else, produce or relay), such asnegationism (the idea that the holocaust didn't happen), terrorismrecruitment, etc., would be consider out of the Open Internet.And more common illegal purposes abound: copying/serving files withoutrights, fake news, diffamation, etc., and I'm not sure we want toreserve the term Open Internet for an ideal world where everybody isgood except for the censors.Either we have to qualify the "purposes", e.g. "all law-abidingpurposes", and shift the responsibility of openness on those makinglaws, or we need to contextualize "equal access" to transport levelneutrality, not looking at content.On 2017-09-06 03:00, Sylvia Cadena wrote:Dear all,I have checked the document that Marika shared with comments from manyof us and incorporated the last ones made on this thread. I hope theattached document serves to structure a preamble (as Erika suggested)in a way that reflects the spirit of the CCWG discussions, and ourintent for the auction proceeds funds to make a difference.Warm regards,Sylvia————** ISIF Asia call for grants proposals and award nominations has beenextended until 15 September (midnight UTC) www.isif.asia [3] - Getstarted and submit your application! **Sylvia Cadena | sylvia@apnic.net | APNIC Foundation - Head of Programs| +10 GMT Brisbane, Australia | http://www.apnic.foundation [4]FROM: <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of JudithHellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com>ORGANIZATION: Hellerstein & AssociatesREPLY-TO: Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com>DATE: Tuesday, 5 September 2017 at 2:17 pmTO: "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>SUBJECT: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated versionopen internet definition / descriptionHI Erika and others,I like Daniel's summary of Open Internet but we need to also addressthe issue of accessibility. If you recall Elliott suggested thefollowingAn Internet that is equally accessible to all people for all purposes,and at every level of the stack. At the lower end of the stack, thatmeans no impediments are placed based on the sender, recipient,content, application or type of data being transmitted.If we could add the concept of accessibility to your definition Ithink that would greatly helpI also like Sylvia Cadena's text and hope we can figure out a way toadd this to our definition.That means no impediments are placed based on the sender, recipient,content, application or type of data being transmitted.That means policy and regulation promote, support, facilitate andguarantee accessThat means equality of access at a pragmatic level is ensured byassuring access at prices affordable to all members of societyThat means training is available about how to manage, operate and howto use the Internet, as well as education in how to use it effectivelyThat means participation on an equal footing at all levels isencouraged, specially by those that might be discriminated againstBest,Judith_________________________________________________________________________Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEOHellerstein & Associates3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellersteinMobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517E-mail: Judith@jhellerstein.com Website: www.jhellerstein.com [1]Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ [2]Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities WorldwideOn 9/4/2017 7:04 AM, Daniel Dardailler wrote:How about this for a start.===The concept of “Open Internet”, as referred to in the CCWGobjectives statement, can be described at many levels, e.g.technogical, business, political, etc, and in particular, at thesocietal level:An Open Internet is one where all people are empowered tocontribute and to participate in building a worldwide culture thatopens our hearts and minds by respecting differences. It is anInternet (i.e. a network of networks) that we, the people of theworld, recognize as ours — something we have built together forone anotherAt the technogical level, openness refers to how easily machines canconnect to each others and how stable, scalable, and secure thenetwork is. The IP routing and numbering systems, the DNS, or theOpen Standard process, have historically been serving an OpenInternet because of the opportunities they have provided toparticipate, innovate and compete without artificial impediments(e.g. patents, walled-garden).At the policy level, supporting the Open Internet happens when forinstance governments put in place regulations that promote, support,facilitate and guarantee equal connectivity at prices affordable toall members of society, together with education and training effortstoward making the next generation more Internet savvy.In an ideal world, an Open Internet is one where no control orimpediments are placed based on the sender, recipient, content,application or type of data being transmitted.From that broad description, the CCWG has considered the parts ofthe Open Internet that:- are aligned with the overall ICANN's mission and corecommitments- are in need of funding for more development support- are creating value-added for the Open Internet at large- are consensual enough so that they do not endanger the ICANNcommunity...<and here we need to apply our CCWG "filter" regarding layering,shared value, political issues, etc>On 2017-08-31 22:44, Marika Konings wrote:Dear All,Hereby attached the updated version of the open internetdefinition /description which incorporates the comments and suggestions thatweresubmitted since the last version. As there are a number ofdefinitions/ descriptions that have been put forward so far, are there anyvolunteers who would like to take a stab at coming up with a draftthat brings the different perspectives together and addresses thedifferent comments and contributions to date which the CCWG couldreview during its next meeting?Best regards,Marika_MARIKA KONINGS__Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, InternetCorporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) __Email: marika.konings@icann.org __ __Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO__Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses[1]and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages [2]. _Links:------[1] http://learn.icann.org/courses/gnso[2]http://gnso.icann.org/sites/gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/presentations/policy-efforts.htm#newcomers_______________________________________________Ccwg-auctionproceeds mailing listCcwg-auctionproceeds@icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-auctionproceeds_______________________________________________Ccwg-auctionproceeds mailing listCcwg-auctionproceeds@icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-auctionproceedsLinks:------[1] http://www.jhellerstein.com[2] http://www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/[3] http://www.isif.asia/[4] http://www.apnic.foundation/_______________________________________________Ccwg-auctionproceeds mailing listCcwg-auctionproceeds@icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-auctionproceeds_______________________________________________Ccwg-auctionproceeds mailing listCcwg-auctionproceeds@icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-auctionproceeds
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