It is not just John’s personal experience. It is Vanda’s which she share in detail. And mine with CIRA (and my own philanthropy), which I have talked about in detail. And others. I am not sure why you don’t trust the community to deal with this issue appropriately. This is not an abstract. This is us. I do wish we had more face-to-face time to discuss this (and apologies for not being in Marrakech) as there is a subtlety that I think a mailing list is not doing service to.

EN

On Jul 27, 2019, at 7:28 AM, Marilyn Cade <marilynscade@hotmail.com> wrote:

John, I am not going to critique anything about ISOC creating a foundation. why, wherefore, or amounts, or where the funding source comes from.


but, my point is we cannot use a single personal experience in the establishment of a foundation as the role model for ICANN. 

 Such a recent situation and one that is individual to a particular entity in the technical community does not necessarily present a role model for others, but is a laudable response to a funding opportunity that benefitted ISOC< and where ISOC is creating a foundation to support its core mission. 

BRAND new. Not a role model. Laudable for ISOC. Excellent! 

Legal status of "parent" organization: different from ICANN.

Responsibility of "parent" organization -- VERY different. 
Incorporation of organization -- Different






From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2019 10:31 PM
To: Marilyn Cade <marilynscade@hotmail.com>
Cc: ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>
Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Judith Hellerstein's comments on the Auction Proceeds Draft
 
> Let's not assume anything from our own experience. Count on facts.

Sorry, but no.  What we did while setting up the ISOC foundation is a 
fact.  If you don't believe me, there's not much I can do about that.

Once again, I totally concur with your concerns about the process and 
possible influence by ICANN staff, but assuptions that creating extra 
levels of bueracracy in a short term foundation are just that, 
assumptions.

R's,
John
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