My initial comments
Erika, Thanks for informing us of the meet you had with the icann chair and details of the board resolution . as a newcomer to this CCWG, a long time participant at ICANN and a background in working with donors to support and promote internet related projects related to security and policy development I see this action as an important precedent. It sends a signal that if it that if we can’t get things moving quicker - in a timely fashion that is consistent with ICANN’s mission, in a way that follows legal frameworks for US entities, and addressing real needs , then the funding might be spent for us. That’s a real concern that should not be underestimated While I recognize a lot of important work and discussions have been undertaken by this ccwg, we have also taken a period of time that is far too long given the great needs that exist to maintain a stable, secure and interoperable internet I look forward to meeting some of you in Barcelona, hopefully at the gala tonight as well working with you virtually in the coming weeks. Regards Robert
I think that’s a valid point but it’s also skewed by the fiduciary responsibilities of the board to ICANN in this scenario that will always have precedence in this case when we have the scenario of the depletion of the reserve fund while there is another ICANN controller fund available. The community still has avenues available to challenge the decision of its feels warranted (I personally would not support that). Sent from my iPhone On 24 Oct 2018, at 14:30, Robert Guerra <rguerra@privaterra.org<mailto:rguerra@privaterra.org>> wrote: Erika, Thanks for informing us of the meet you had with the icann chair and details of the board resolution . as a newcomer to this CCWG, a long time participant at ICANN and a background in working with donors to support and promote internet related projects related to security and policy development I see this action as an important precedent. It sends a signal that if it that if we can’t get things moving quicker - in a timely fashion that is consistent with ICANN’s mission, in a way that follows legal frameworks for US entities, and addressing real needs , then the funding might be spent for us. That’s a real concern that should not be underestimated While I recognize a lot of important work and discussions have been undertaken by this ccwg, we have also taken a period of time that is far too long given the great needs that exist to maintain a stable, secure and interoperable internet I look forward to meeting some of you in Barcelona, hopefully at the gala tonight as well working with you virtually in the coming weeks. Regards Robert _______________________________________________ Ccwg-auctionproceeds mailing list Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-auctionproceeds
Hello Robert, Not disagreeing with you about the time this ccwg has taken but I don't think it's the avenue that was used to "spend the money for us". I believe right from the start of this process it was clearly envisaged that there will be replenishment of the reserve from the auction proceeds and I think the proposed way forward is fair enough. Unless there is another transition in future a precedence as this may not re-occur. Regards PS: I think it will have been better to have replied to this message of the Chair or at least include her message in the new thread you've created, for thread archive completeness purposes Sent from my mobile Kindly excuse brevity and typos On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, 13:30 Robert Guerra, <rguerra@privaterra.org> wrote:
Erika,
Thanks for informing us of the meet you had with the icann chair and details of the board resolution .
as a newcomer to this CCWG, a long time participant at ICANN and a background in working with donors to support and promote internet related projects related to security and policy development I see this action as an important precedent.
It sends a signal that if it that if we can’t get things moving quicker - in a timely fashion that is consistent with ICANN’s mission, in a way that follows legal frameworks for US entities, and addressing real needs , then the funding might be spent for us. That’s a real concern that should not be underestimated
While I recognize a lot of important work and discussions have been undertaken by this ccwg, we have also taken a period of time that is far too long given the great needs that exist to maintain a stable, secure and interoperable internet
I look forward to meeting some of you in Barcelona, hopefully at the gala tonight as well working with you virtually in the coming weeks.
Regards
Robert
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Seun, As it wasn’t implied in my earlier comments, I don’t personally have an issue with a portion of the auction proceeds going to replenish the reserve. Where I am concerned is the pace and progress of the ccwg. a great deal of impact is possible, but the more we delay, the more the assumptions of what is in mission and identified as a priority may change Regards, Robert -- Robert Guerra On October 24, 2018 at 3:19:45 PM, Seun Ojedeji (seun.ojedeji@gmail.com) wrote:
Hello Robert,
Not disagreeing with you about the time this ccwg has taken but I don't think it's the avenue that was used to "spend the money for us".
I believe right from the start of this process it was clearly envisaged that there will be replenishment of the reserve from the auction proceeds and I think the proposed way forward is fair enough. Unless there is another transition in future a precedence as this may not re-occur.
Regards PS: I think it will have been better to have replied to this message of the Chair or at least include her message in the new thread you've created, for thread archive completeness purposes
Sent from my mobile Kindly excuse brevity and typos
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, 13:30 Robert Guerra, <rguerra@privaterra.org> wrote:
Erika,
Thanks for informing us of the meet you had with the icann chair and details of the board resolution .
as a newcomer to this CCWG, a long time participant at ICANN and a background in working with donors to support and promote internet related projects related to security and policy development I see this action as an important precedent.
It sends a signal that if it that if we can’t get things moving quicker - in a timely fashion that is consistent with ICANN’s mission, in a way that follows legal frameworks for US entities, and addressing real needs , then the funding might be spent for us. That’s a real concern that should not be underestimated
While I recognize a lot of important work and discussions have been undertaken by this ccwg, we have also taken a period of time that is far too long given the great needs that exist to maintain a stable, secure and interoperable internet
I look forward to meeting some of you in Barcelona, hopefully at the gala tonight as well working with you virtually in the coming weeks.
Regards
Robert
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Dear Robert - to clarify your last item. There's no intention to delay anything and I don't expect a delay to happen. Looking forward seeing you hopefully in Barcelona! Warmest regards, Erika On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 3:48 PM, Robert Guerra <rguerra@privaterra.org> wrote:
Seun,
As it wasn’t implied in my earlier comments, I don’t personally have an issue with a portion of the auction proceeds going to replenish the reserve.
Where I am concerned is the pace and progress of the ccwg. a great deal of impact is possible, but the more we delay, the more the assumptions of what is in mission and identified as a priority may change
Regards,
Robert
-- Robert Guerra
On October 24, 2018 at 3:19:45 PM, Seun Ojedeji (seun.ojedeji@gmail.com) wrote:
Hello Robert,
Not disagreeing with you about the time this ccwg has taken but I don't think it's the avenue that was used to "spend the money for us".
I believe right from the start of this process it was clearly envisaged that there will be replenishment of the reserve from the auction proceeds and I think the proposed way forward is fair enough. Unless there is another transition in future a precedence as this may not re-occur.
Regards PS: I think it will have been better to have replied to this message of the Chair or at least include her message in the new thread you've created, for thread archive completeness purposes
Sent from my mobile Kindly excuse brevity and typos
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, 13:30 Robert Guerra, <rguerra@privaterra.org> wrote:
Erika,
Thanks for informing us of the meet you had with the icann chair and details of the board resolution .
as a newcomer to this CCWG, a long time participant at ICANN and a background in working with donors to support and promote internet related projects related to security and policy development I see this action as an important precedent.
It sends a signal that if it that if we can’t get things moving quicker - in a timely fashion that is consistent with ICANN’s mission, in a way that follows legal frameworks for US entities, and addressing real needs , then the funding might be spent for us. That’s a real concern that should not be underestimated
While I recognize a lot of important work and discussions have been undertaken by this ccwg, we have also taken a period of time that is far too long given the great needs that exist to maintain a stable, secure and interoperable internet
I look forward to meeting some of you in Barcelona, hopefully at the gala tonight as well working with you virtually in the coming weeks.
Regards
Robert
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participants (4)
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Erika Mann -
James Gannon -
Robert Guerra -
Seun Ojedeji