With google doc link - Re: For your review - updated version open internet definition / description
Following up on this message, please find the document in the form of a Google Doc here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HV3dzTkKIYCyiRbzPW3Uk3MctwK0BQTth39DitIW.... Please provide any comments/edits you may have in the form of suggestions. If any of you have issues using google docs, please send your comments / suggestions by email and I can add them on your behalf. Best regards, Marika From: <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org> Date: Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 07:41 To: "erika@erikamann.com" <erika@erikamann.com>, Sylvia Cadena <sylvia@apnic.net> Cc: "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated version open internet definition / description Dear All, On behalf of Erika, please find attached a new “Open Internet” preamble draft text which aims to incorporate the different proposals and comments that have been made to date. Following the call, we will make the google doc link available to allow for further edits / comments. Best regards, Marika From: <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Erika Mann <erika@erikamann.com> Date: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 03:21 To: Sylvia Cadena <sylvia@apnic.net> Cc: "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated version open internet definition / description All - I hope to be able to send you tomorrow a new 'open Internet' preamble draft text, based on suggestions you made. I had hoped to be able to do this today but I have to finalize some other work first. Until tomorrow! Erika On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 3:00 AM, Sylvia Cadena <sylvia@apnic.net<mailto:sylvia@apnic.net>> wrote: Dear all, I have checked the document that Marika shared with comments from many of us and incorporated the last ones made on this thread. I hope the attached document serves to structure a preamble (as Erika suggested) in a way that reflects the spirit of the CCWG discussions, and our intent for the auction proceeds funds to make a difference. Warm regards, Sylvia ———— ** ISIF Asia call for grants proposals and award nominations has been extended until 15 September (midnight UTC) www.isif.asia[isif.asia]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.isif.asia_&d=DwMFaQ&...> - Get started and submit your application! ** Sylvia Cadena | sylvia@apnic.net<mailto:sylvia@apnic.net> | APNIC Foundation - Head of Programs | +10 GMT Brisbane, Australia | http://www.apnic.foundation[apnic.foundation]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.apnic.foundation_&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=LtimcNj1bDdNjyNWL7QuyovnMOyYZgm6VUyPtnNnmI0&s=0_ZXJsSCNbJsDwIus5HKjPg3Uql7kigQ3U6kiQS9D0g&e=> From: <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com<mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com>> Organization: Hellerstein & Associates Reply-To: Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com<mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com>> Date: Tuesday, 5 September 2017 at 2:17 pm To: "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated version open internet definition / description HI Erika and others, I like Daniel's summary of Open Internet but we need to also address the issue of accessibility. If you recall Elliott suggested the following An Internet that is equally accessible to all people for all purposes, and at every level of the stack. At the lower end of the stack, that means no impediments are placed based on the sender, recipient, content, application or type of data being transmitted. If we could add the concept of accessibility to your definition I think that would greatly help I also like Sylvia Cadena's text and hope we can figure out a way to add this to our definition. That means no impediments are placed based on the sender, recipient, content, application or type of data being transmitted. That means policy and regulation promote, support, facilitate and guarantee access That means equality of access at a pragmatic level is ensured by assuring access at prices affordable to all members of society That means training is available about how to manage, operate and how to use the Internet, as well as education in how to use it effectively That means participation on an equal footing at all levels is encouraged, specially by those that might be discriminated against Best, Judith _________________________________________________________________________ Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO Hellerstein & Associates 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 Phone: (202) 362-5139<tel:(202)%20362-5139> Skype ID: judithhellerstein Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517<tel:(202)%20333-6517> E-mail: Judith@jhellerstein.com<mailto:Judith@jhellerstein.com> Website: www.jhellerstein.com[jhellerstein.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.jhellerstein.com&d=D...> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/[linkedin.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.linkedin.com_in_jhel...> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide On 9/4/2017 7:04 AM, Daniel Dardailler wrote: How about this for a start. === The concept of “Open Internet”, as referred to in the CCWG objectives statement, can be described at many levels, e.g. technogical, business, political, etc, and in particular, at the societal level: An Open Internet is one where all people are empowered to contribute and to participate in building a worldwide culture that opens our hearts and minds by respecting differences. It is an Internet (i.e. a network of networks) that we, the people of the world, recognize as ours — something we have built together for one another At the technogical level, openness refers to how easily machines can connect to each others and how stable, scalable, and secure the network is. The IP routing and numbering systems, the DNS, or the Open Standard process, have historically been serving an Open Internet because of the opportunities they have provided to participate, innovate and compete without artificial impediments (e.g. patents, walled-garden). At the policy level, supporting the Open Internet happens when for instance governments put in place regulations that promote, support, facilitate and guarantee equal connectivity at prices affordable to all members of society, together with education and training efforts toward making the next generation more Internet savvy. In an ideal world, an Open Internet is one where no control or impediments are placed based on the sender, recipient, content, application or type of data being transmitted. From that broad description, the CCWG has considered the parts of the Open Internet that: - are aligned with the overall ICANN's mission and core commitments - are in need of funding for more development support - are creating value-added for the Open Internet at large - are consensual enough so that they do not endanger the ICANN community ... <and here we need to apply our CCWG "filter" regarding layering, shared value, political issues, etc> On 2017-08-31 22:44, Marika Konings wrote: Dear All, Hereby attached the updated version of the open internet definition / description which incorporates the comments and suggestions that were submitted since the last version. As there are a number of definitions / descriptions that have been put forward so far, are there any volunteers who would like to take a stab at coming up with a draft that brings the different perspectives together and addresses the different comments and contributions to date which the CCWG could review during its next meeting? Best regards, Marika _MARIKA KONINGS_ _Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) _ _Email: marika.konings@icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org> _ _ _ _Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO_ _Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses [1] and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages [2]. _ Links: ------ [1] http://learn.icann.org/courses/gnso[learn.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__learn.icann.org_courses_gnso&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=LtimcNj1bDdNjyNWL7QuyovnMOyYZgm6VUyPtnNnmI0&s=S-o01ralhYoTlNiCTgvuha7F-Tw_Md45S-_ppR8-A0w&e=> [2] http://gnso.icann.org/sites/gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/presentations/policy-efforts.htm#newcomers[gnso.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gnso.icann.org_sites_gnso.icann.org_files_gnso_presentations_policy-2Defforts.htm-23newcomers&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=LtimcNj1bDdNjyNWL7QuyovnMOyYZgm6VUyPtnNnmI0&s=iSeKuZ-dZgwTkGqPfvFcY_8X7f32Qo1R3Us9beOjE9g&e=> _______________________________________________ Ccwg-auctionproceeds mailing list Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-auctionproceeds _______________________________________________ Ccwg-auctionproceeds mailing list Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-auctionproceeds _______________________________________________ Ccwg-auctionproceeds mailing list Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-auctionproceeds
Thanks Marika. I have added my suggested edits, apologies for the late input. In the future, it will be greatly appreciated if people could login to their google accounts before adding their comments, so that there are no anonymous comments. Regards, Sylvia ———— Sylvia Cadena | sylvia@apnic.net<mailto:sylvia@apnic.net> | APNIC Foundation - Head of Programs | +10 GMT Brisbane, Australia | http://www.apnic.foundation<http://www.apnic.foundation/> From: Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org> Date: Friday, 8 September 2017 at 3:27 am To: "erika@erikamann.com" <erika@erikamann.com>, "sylvia@apnic.net" <sylvia@apnic.net> Cc: "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> Subject: With google doc link - Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated version open internet definition / description Following up on this message, please find the document in the form of a Google Doc here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HV3dzTkKIYCyiRbzPW3Uk3MctwK0BQTth39DitIW.... Please provide any comments/edits you may have in the form of suggestions. If any of you have issues using google docs, please send your comments / suggestions by email and I can add them on your behalf. Best regards, Marika From: <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org> Date: Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 07:41 To: "erika@erikamann.com" <erika@erikamann.com>, Sylvia Cadena <sylvia@apnic.net> Cc: "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated version open internet definition / description Dear All, On behalf of Erika, please find attached a new “Open Internet” preamble draft text which aims to incorporate the different proposals and comments that have been made to date. Following the call, we will make the google doc link available to allow for further edits / comments. Best regards, Marika From: <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Erika Mann <erika@erikamann.com> Date: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 03:21 To: Sylvia Cadena <sylvia@apnic.net> Cc: "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated version open internet definition / description All - I hope to be able to send you tomorrow a new 'open Internet' preamble draft text, based on suggestions you made. I had hoped to be able to do this today but I have to finalize some other work first. Until tomorrow! Erika On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 3:00 AM, Sylvia Cadena <sylvia@apnic.net<mailto:sylvia@apnic.net>> wrote: Dear all, I have checked the document that Marika shared with comments from many of us and incorporated the last ones made on this thread. I hope the attached document serves to structure a preamble (as Erika suggested) in a way that reflects the spirit of the CCWG discussions, and our intent for the auction proceeds funds to make a difference. Warm regards, Sylvia ———— ** ISIF Asia call for grants proposals and award nominations has been extended until 15 September (midnight UTC) www.isif.asia[isif.asia]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.isif.asia_&d=DwMFaQ&...> - Get started and submit your application! ** Sylvia Cadena | sylvia@apnic.net<mailto:sylvia@apnic.net> | APNIC Foundation - Head of Programs | +10 GMT Brisbane, Australia | http://www.apnic.foundation[apnic.foundation]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.apnic.foundation_&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=LtimcNj1bDdNjyNWL7QuyovnMOyYZgm6VUyPtnNnmI0&s=0_ZXJsSCNbJsDwIus5HKjPg3Uql7kigQ3U6kiQS9D0g&e=> From: <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com<mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com>> Organization: Hellerstein & Associates Reply-To: Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com<mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com>> Date: Tuesday, 5 September 2017 at 2:17 pm To: "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated version open internet definition / description HI Erika and others, I like Daniel's summary of Open Internet but we need to also address the issue of accessibility. If you recall Elliott suggested the following An Internet that is equally accessible to all people for all purposes, and at every level of the stack. At the lower end of the stack, that means no impediments are placed based on the sender, recipient, content, application or type of data being transmitted. If we could add the concept of accessibility to your definition I think that would greatly help I also like Sylvia Cadena's text and hope we can figure out a way to add this to our definition. That means no impediments are placed based on the sender, recipient, content, application or type of data being transmitted. That means policy and regulation promote, support, facilitate and guarantee access That means equality of access at a pragmatic level is ensured by assuring access at prices affordable to all members of society That means training is available about how to manage, operate and how to use the Internet, as well as education in how to use it effectively That means participation on an equal footing at all levels is encouraged, specially by those that might be discriminated against Best, Judith _________________________________________________________________________ Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO Hellerstein & Associates 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 Phone: (202) 362-5139<tel:(202)%20362-5139> Skype ID: judithhellerstein Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517<tel:(202)%20333-6517> E-mail: Judith@jhellerstein.com<mailto:Judith@jhellerstein.com> Website: www.jhellerstein.com[jhellerstein.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.jhellerstein.com&d=D...> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/[linkedin.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.linkedin.com_in_jhel...> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide On 9/4/2017 7:04 AM, Daniel Dardailler wrote: How about this for a start. === The concept of “Open Internet”, as referred to in the CCWG objectives statement, can be described at many levels, e.g. technogical, business, political, etc, and in particular, at the societal level: An Open Internet is one where all people are empowered to contribute and to participate in building a worldwide culture that opens our hearts and minds by respecting differences. It is an Internet (i.e. a network of networks) that we, the people of the world, recognize as ours — something we have built together for one another At the technogical level, openness refers to how easily machines can connect to each others and how stable, scalable, and secure the network is. The IP routing and numbering systems, the DNS, or the Open Standard process, have historically been serving an Open Internet because of the opportunities they have provided to participate, innovate and compete without artificial impediments (e.g. patents, walled-garden). At the policy level, supporting the Open Internet happens when for instance governments put in place regulations that promote, support, facilitate and guarantee equal connectivity at prices affordable to all members of society, together with education and training efforts toward making the next generation more Internet savvy. In an ideal world, an Open Internet is one where no control or impediments are placed based on the sender, recipient, content, application or type of data being transmitted. From that broad description, the CCWG has considered the parts of the Open Internet that: - are aligned with the overall ICANN's mission and core commitments - are in need of funding for more development support - are creating value-added for the Open Internet at large - are consensual enough so that they do not endanger the ICANN community ... <and here we need to apply our CCWG "filter" regarding layering, shared value, political issues, etc> On 2017-08-31 22:44, Marika Konings wrote: Dear All, Hereby attached the updated version of the open internet definition / description which incorporates the comments and suggestions that were submitted since the last version. As there are a number of definitions / descriptions that have been put forward so far, are there any volunteers who would like to take a stab at coming up with a draft that brings the different perspectives together and addresses the different comments and contributions to date which the CCWG could review during its next meeting? Best regards, Marika _MARIKA KONINGS_ _Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) _ _Email: marika.konings@icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org> _ _ _ _Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO_ _Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses [1] and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages [2]. _ Links: ------ [1] http://learn.icann.org/courses/gnso[learn.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__learn.icann.org_courses_gnso&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=LtimcNj1bDdNjyNWL7QuyovnMOyYZgm6VUyPtnNnmI0&s=S-o01ralhYoTlNiCTgvuha7F-Tw_Md45S-_ppR8-A0w&e=> [2] http://gnso.icann.org/sites/gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/presentations/policy-efforts.htm#newcomers[gnso.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gnso.icann.org_sites_gnso.icann.org_files_gnso_presentations_policy-2Defforts.htm-23newcomers&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=LtimcNj1bDdNjyNWL7QuyovnMOyYZgm6VUyPtnNnmI0&s=iSeKuZ-dZgwTkGqPfvFcY_8X7f32Qo1R3Us9beOjE9g&e=> _______________________________________________ Ccwg-auctionproceeds mailing list Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-auctionproceeds _______________________________________________ Ccwg-auctionproceeds mailing list Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-auctionproceeds _______________________________________________ Ccwg-auctionproceeds mailing list Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-auctionproceeds
Sylvia, please note that per the notes of the last meeting a small drafting team was formed to move this effort forward. The DT will share an update on its work during the upcoming meeting. Best regards, Marika On 04 Oct 2017, at 18:12, Sylvia Cadena <sylvia@apnic.net<mailto:sylvia@apnic.net>> wrote: Thanks Marika. I have added my suggested edits, apologies for the late input. In the future, it will be greatly appreciated if people could login to their google accounts before adding their comments, so that there are no anonymous comments. Regards, Sylvia ———— Sylvia Cadena | sylvia@apnic.net<mailto:sylvia@apnic.net> | APNIC Foundation - Head of Programs | +10 GMT Brisbane, Australia | http://www.apnic.foundation[apnic.foundation]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.apnic.foundation_&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=1AKr4yO2c9u1iOKs6BV0Js7pvkJ3F8z_UsZb2OacnVI&s=LXM_VT-_pB4UtiBFq4ysu_TOxIFHKkHX9bRes1BX-Gw&e=> From: Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org>> Date: Friday, 8 September 2017 at 3:27 am To: "erika@erikamann.com<mailto:erika@erikamann.com>" <erika@erikamann.com<mailto:erika@erikamann.com>>, "sylvia@apnic.net<mailto:sylvia@apnic.net>" <sylvia@apnic.net<mailto:sylvia@apnic.net>> Cc: "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>> Subject: With google doc link - Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated version open internet definition / description Following up on this message, please find the document in the form of a Google Doc here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HV3dzTkKIYCyiRbzPW3Uk3MctwK0BQTth39DitIW-L4/edit?usp=sharing[docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1HV3dzTkKIYCyiRbzPW3Uk3MctwK0BQTth39DitIW-2DL4_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=1AKr4yO2c9u1iOKs6BV0Js7pvkJ3F8z_UsZb2OacnVI&s=XZvdo_4ieqZRqLRsDe65TOP6iI54KlaTPOdkFsWE1r8&e=>. Please provide any comments/edits you may have in the form of suggestions. If any of you have issues using google docs, please send your comments / suggestions by email and I can add them on your behalf. Best regards, Marika From: <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org>> Date: Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 07:41 To: "erika@erikamann.com<mailto:erika@erikamann.com>" <erika@erikamann.com<mailto:erika@erikamann.com>>, Sylvia Cadena <sylvia@apnic.net<mailto:sylvia@apnic.net>> Cc: "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated version open internet definition / description Dear All, On behalf of Erika, please find attached a new “Open Internet” preamble draft text which aims to incorporate the different proposals and comments that have been made to date. Following the call, we will make the google doc link available to allow for further edits / comments. Best regards, Marika From: <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Erika Mann <erika@erikamann.com<mailto:erika@erikamann.com>> Date: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 03:21 To: Sylvia Cadena <sylvia@apnic.net<mailto:sylvia@apnic.net>> Cc: "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated version open internet definition / description All - I hope to be able to send you tomorrow a new 'open Internet' preamble draft text, based on suggestions you made. I had hoped to be able to do this today but I have to finalize some other work first. Until tomorrow! Erika On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 3:00 AM, Sylvia Cadena <sylvia@apnic.net<mailto:sylvia@apnic.net>> wrote: Dear all, I have checked the document that Marika shared with comments from many of us and incorporated the last ones made on this thread. I hope the attached document serves to structure a preamble (as Erika suggested) in a way that reflects the spirit of the CCWG discussions, and our intent for the auction proceeds funds to make a difference. Warm regards, Sylvia ———— ** ISIF Asia call for grants proposals and award nominations has been extended until 15 September (midnight UTC) www.isif.asia[isif.asia]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.isif.asia_&d=DwMFaQ&...> - Get started and submit your application! ** Sylvia Cadena | sylvia@apnic.net<mailto:sylvia@apnic.net> | APNIC Foundation - Head of Programs | +10 GMT Brisbane, Australia | http://www.apnic.foundation[apnic.foundation]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.apnic.foundation_&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=LtimcNj1bDdNjyNWL7QuyovnMOyYZgm6VUyPtnNnmI0&s=0_ZXJsSCNbJsDwIus5HKjPg3Uql7kigQ3U6kiQS9D0g&e=> From: <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com<mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com>> Organization: Hellerstein & Associates Reply-To: Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com<mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com>> Date: Tuesday, 5 September 2017 at 2:17 pm To: "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated version open internet definition / description HI Erika and others, I like Daniel's summary of Open Internet but we need to also address the issue of accessibility. If you recall Elliott suggested the following An Internet that is equally accessible to all people for all purposes, and at every level of the stack. At the lower end of the stack, that means no impediments are placed based on the sender, recipient, content, application or type of data being transmitted. If we could add the concept of accessibility to your definition I think that would greatly help I also like Sylvia Cadena's text and hope we can figure out a way to add this to our definition. That means no impediments are placed based on the sender, recipient, content, application or type of data being transmitted. That means policy and regulation promote, support, facilitate and guarantee access That means equality of access at a pragmatic level is ensured by assuring access at prices affordable to all members of society That means training is available about how to manage, operate and how to use the Internet, as well as education in how to use it effectively That means participation on an equal footing at all levels is encouraged, specially by those that might be discriminated against Best, Judith _________________________________________________________________________ Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO Hellerstein & Associates 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 Phone: (202) 362-5139<tel:(202)%20362-5139> Skype ID: judithhellerstein Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517<tel:(202)%20333-6517> E-mail: Judith@jhellerstein.com<mailto:Judith@jhellerstein.com> Website: www.jhellerstein.com[jhellerstein.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.jhellerstein.com&d=D...> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/[linkedin.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.linkedin.com_in_jhel...> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide On 9/4/2017 7:04 AM, Daniel Dardailler wrote: How about this for a start. === The concept of “Open Internet”, as referred to in the CCWG objectives statement, can be described at many levels, e.g. technogical, business, political, etc, and in particular, at the societal level: An Open Internet is one where all people are empowered to contribute and to participate in building a worldwide culture that opens our hearts and minds by respecting differences. It is an Internet (i.e. a network of networks) that we, the people of the world, recognize as ours — something we have built together for one another At the technogical level, openness refers to how easily machines can connect to each others and how stable, scalable, and secure the network is. The IP routing and numbering systems, the DNS, or the Open Standard process, have historically been serving an Open Internet because of the opportunities they have provided to participate, innovate and compete without artificial impediments (e.g. patents, walled-garden). At the policy level, supporting the Open Internet happens when for instance governments put in place regulations that promote, support, facilitate and guarantee equal connectivity at prices affordable to all members of society, together with education and training efforts toward making the next generation more Internet savvy. In an ideal world, an Open Internet is one where no control or impediments are placed based on the sender, recipient, content, application or type of data being transmitted. From that broad description, the CCWG has considered the parts of the Open Internet that: - are aligned with the overall ICANN's mission and core commitments - are in need of funding for more development support - are creating value-added for the Open Internet at large - are consensual enough so that they do not endanger the ICANN community ... <and here we need to apply our CCWG "filter" regarding layering, shared value, political issues, etc> On 2017-08-31 22:44, Marika Konings wrote: Dear All, Hereby attached the updated version of the open internet definition / description which incorporates the comments and suggestions that were submitted since the last version. As there are a number of definitions / descriptions that have been put forward so far, are there any volunteers who would like to take a stab at coming up with a draft that brings the different perspectives together and addresses the different comments and contributions to date which the CCWG could review during its next meeting? Best regards, Marika _MARIKA KONINGS_ _Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) _ _Email: marika.konings@icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org> _ _ _ _Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO_ _Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses [1] and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages [2]. _ Links: ------ [1] http://learn.icann.org/courses/gnso[learn.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__learn.icann.org_courses_gnso&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=LtimcNj1bDdNjyNWL7QuyovnMOyYZgm6VUyPtnNnmI0&s=S-o01ralhYoTlNiCTgvuha7F-Tw_Md45S-_ppR8-A0w&e=> [2] http://gnso.icann.org/sites/gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/presentations/policy-efforts.htm#newcomers[gnso.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gnso.icann.org_sites_gnso.icann.org_files_gnso_presentations_policy-2Defforts.htm-23newcomers&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=LtimcNj1bDdNjyNWL7QuyovnMOyYZgm6VUyPtnNnmI0&s=iSeKuZ-dZgwTkGqPfvFcY_8X7f32Qo1R3Us9beOjE9g&e=> _______________________________________________ Ccwg-auctionproceeds mailing list Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-auctionproceeds _______________________________________________ Ccwg-auctionproceeds mailing list Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-auctionproceeds _______________________________________________ Ccwg-auctionproceeds mailing list Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-auctionproceeds _______________________________________________ Ccwg-auctionproceeds mailing list Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-auctionproceeds
Thanks Marika, yes I was aware of that. Still wanted to add my 2 cents ☺ ———— Sylvia Cadena | sylvia@apnic.net<mailto:sylvia@apnic.net> | APNIC Foundation - Head of Programs | +10 GMT Brisbane, Australia | http://www.apnic.foundation<http://www.apnic.foundation/> From: Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org> Date: Thursday, 5 October 2017 at 10:19 am To: "sylvia@apnic.net" <sylvia@apnic.net> Cc: "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] With google doc link - Re: For your review - updated version open internet definition / description Sylvia, please note that per the notes of the last meeting a small drafting team was formed to move this effort forward. The DT will share an update on its work during the upcoming meeting. Best regards, Marika On 04 Oct 2017, at 18:12, Sylvia Cadena <sylvia@apnic.net<mailto:sylvia@apnic.net>> wrote: Thanks Marika. I have added my suggested edits, apologies for the late input. In the future, it will be greatly appreciated if people could login to their google accounts before adding their comments, so that there are no anonymous comments. Regards, Sylvia ———— Sylvia Cadena | sylvia@apnic.net<mailto:sylvia@apnic.net> | APNIC Foundation - Head of Programs | +10 GMT Brisbane, Australia | http://www.apnic.foundation[apnic.foundation]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.apnic.foundation_&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=1AKr4yO2c9u1iOKs6BV0Js7pvkJ3F8z_UsZb2OacnVI&s=LXM_VT-_pB4UtiBFq4ysu_TOxIFHKkHX9bRes1BX-Gw&e=> From: Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org>> Date: Friday, 8 September 2017 at 3:27 am To: "erika@erikamann.com<mailto:erika@erikamann.com>" <erika@erikamann.com<mailto:erika@erikamann.com>>, "sylvia@apnic.net<mailto:sylvia@apnic.net>" <sylvia@apnic.net<mailto:sylvia@apnic.net>> Cc: "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>> Subject: With google doc link - Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated version open internet definition / description Following up on this message, please find the document in the form of a Google Doc here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HV3dzTkKIYCyiRbzPW3Uk3MctwK0BQTth39DitIW-L4/edit?usp=sharing[docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1HV3dzTkKIYCyiRbzPW3Uk3MctwK0BQTth39DitIW-2DL4_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=1AKr4yO2c9u1iOKs6BV0Js7pvkJ3F8z_UsZb2OacnVI&s=XZvdo_4ieqZRqLRsDe65TOP6iI54KlaTPOdkFsWE1r8&e=>. Please provide any comments/edits you may have in the form of suggestions. If any of you have issues using google docs, please send your comments / suggestions by email and I can add them on your behalf. Best regards, Marika From: <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org>> Date: Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 07:41 To: "erika@erikamann.com<mailto:erika@erikamann.com>" <erika@erikamann.com<mailto:erika@erikamann.com>>, Sylvia Cadena <sylvia@apnic.net<mailto:sylvia@apnic.net>> Cc: "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated version open internet definition / description Dear All, On behalf of Erika, please find attached a new “Open Internet” preamble draft text which aims to incorporate the different proposals and comments that have been made to date. Following the call, we will make the google doc link available to allow for further edits / comments. Best regards, Marika From: <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Erika Mann <erika@erikamann.com<mailto:erika@erikamann.com>> Date: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 03:21 To: Sylvia Cadena <sylvia@apnic.net<mailto:sylvia@apnic.net>> Cc: "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated version open internet definition / description All - I hope to be able to send you tomorrow a new 'open Internet' preamble draft text, based on suggestions you made. I had hoped to be able to do this today but I have to finalize some other work first. Until tomorrow! Erika On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 3:00 AM, Sylvia Cadena <sylvia@apnic.net<mailto:sylvia@apnic.net>> wrote: Dear all, I have checked the document that Marika shared with comments from many of us and incorporated the last ones made on this thread. I hope the attached document serves to structure a preamble (as Erika suggested) in a way that reflects the spirit of the CCWG discussions, and our intent for the auction proceeds funds to make a difference. Warm regards, Sylvia ———— ** ISIF Asia call for grants proposals and award nominations has been extended until 15 September (midnight UTC) www.isif.asia[isif.asia]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.isif.asia_&d=DwMFaQ&...> - Get started and submit your application! ** Sylvia Cadena | sylvia@apnic.net<mailto:sylvia@apnic.net> | APNIC Foundation - Head of Programs | +10 GMT Brisbane, Australia | http://www.apnic.foundation[apnic.foundation]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.apnic.foundation_&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=LtimcNj1bDdNjyNWL7QuyovnMOyYZgm6VUyPtnNnmI0&s=0_ZXJsSCNbJsDwIus5HKjPg3Uql7kigQ3U6kiQS9D0g&e=> From: <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com<mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com>> Organization: Hellerstein & Associates Reply-To: Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com<mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com>> Date: Tuesday, 5 September 2017 at 2:17 pm To: "ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>" <ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated version open internet definition / description HI Erika and others, I like Daniel's summary of Open Internet but we need to also address the issue of accessibility. If you recall Elliott suggested the following An Internet that is equally accessible to all people for all purposes, and at every level of the stack. At the lower end of the stack, that means no impediments are placed based on the sender, recipient, content, application or type of data being transmitted. If we could add the concept of accessibility to your definition I think that would greatly help I also like Sylvia Cadena's text and hope we can figure out a way to add this to our definition. That means no impediments are placed based on the sender, recipient, content, application or type of data being transmitted. That means policy and regulation promote, support, facilitate and guarantee access That means equality of access at a pragmatic level is ensured by assuring access at prices affordable to all members of society That means training is available about how to manage, operate and how to use the Internet, as well as education in how to use it effectively That means participation on an equal footing at all levels is encouraged, specially by those that might be discriminated against Best, Judith _________________________________________________________________________ Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO Hellerstein & Associates 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 Phone: (202) 362-5139<tel:(202)%20362-5139> Skype ID: judithhellerstein Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517<tel:(202)%20333-6517> E-mail: Judith@jhellerstein.com<mailto:Judith@jhellerstein.com> Website: www.jhellerstein.com[jhellerstein.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.jhellerstein.com&d=D...> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/[linkedin.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.linkedin.com_in_jhel...> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide On 9/4/2017 7:04 AM, Daniel Dardailler wrote: How about this for a start. === The concept of “Open Internet”, as referred to in the CCWG objectives statement, can be described at many levels, e.g. technogical, business, political, etc, and in particular, at the societal level: An Open Internet is one where all people are empowered to contribute and to participate in building a worldwide culture that opens our hearts and minds by respecting differences. It is an Internet (i.e. a network of networks) that we, the people of the world, recognize as ours — something we have built together for one another At the technogical level, openness refers to how easily machines can connect to each others and how stable, scalable, and secure the network is. The IP routing and numbering systems, the DNS, or the Open Standard process, have historically been serving an Open Internet because of the opportunities they have provided to participate, innovate and compete without artificial impediments (e.g. patents, walled-garden). At the policy level, supporting the Open Internet happens when for instance governments put in place regulations that promote, support, facilitate and guarantee equal connectivity at prices affordable to all members of society, together with education and training efforts toward making the next generation more Internet savvy. In an ideal world, an Open Internet is one where no control or impediments are placed based on the sender, recipient, content, application or type of data being transmitted. From that broad description, the CCWG has considered the parts of the Open Internet that: - are aligned with the overall ICANN's mission and core commitments - are in need of funding for more development support - are creating value-added for the Open Internet at large - are consensual enough so that they do not endanger the ICANN community ... <and here we need to apply our CCWG "filter" regarding layering, shared value, political issues, etc> On 2017-08-31 22:44, Marika Konings wrote: Dear All, Hereby attached the updated version of the open internet definition / description which incorporates the comments and suggestions that were submitted since the last version. As there are a number of definitions / descriptions that have been put forward so far, are there any volunteers who would like to take a stab at coming up with a draft that brings the different perspectives together and addresses the different comments and contributions to date which the CCWG could review during its next meeting? Best regards, Marika _MARIKA KONINGS_ _Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) _ _Email: marika.konings@icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org> _ _ _ _Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO_ _Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses [1] and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages [2]. _ Links: ------ [1] http://learn.icann.org/courses/gnso[learn.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__learn.icann.org_courses_gnso&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=LtimcNj1bDdNjyNWL7QuyovnMOyYZgm6VUyPtnNnmI0&s=S-o01ralhYoTlNiCTgvuha7F-Tw_Md45S-_ppR8-A0w&e=> [2] http://gnso.icann.org/sites/gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/presentations/policy-efforts.htm#newcomers[gnso.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gnso.icann.org_sites_gnso.icann.org_files_gnso_presentations_policy-2Defforts.htm-23newcomers&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=LtimcNj1bDdNjyNWL7QuyovnMOyYZgm6VUyPtnNnmI0&s=iSeKuZ-dZgwTkGqPfvFcY_8X7f32Qo1R3Us9beOjE9g&e=> _______________________________________________ Ccwg-auctionproceeds mailing list Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-auctionproceeds _______________________________________________ Ccwg-auctionproceeds mailing list Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-auctionproceeds _______________________________________________ Ccwg-auctionproceeds mailing list Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-auctionproceeds _______________________________________________ Ccwg-auctionproceeds mailing list Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org<mailto:Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-auctionproceeds
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