张老师,

   因为如下原因:

1. 您写的有些(?)的部分;

2. Jonathan 发过来部分文字的简繁体标注跟您的标示不一致;

3. Jonathan还有部分文字没有发过来。

  所以现在没有将这些未在CDNC字表里的文字(200个左右)合入 总的表(10000字+)。

希望一个确定的版本再合并,因为如果某个字的变体字很多的话,会对原有的cdnc的结构产生很多变化(比如某个字的变体有N个, 则需要修改1+N行)。



-----原始邮件-----
发件人:ZhangJoe <joezhang43@hotmail.com>
发送时间:2015-04-18 15:46:37 (星期六)
收件人: "齐超" <qichao@cnnic.cn>, "Jonathan Shea" <jonathan.shea@hkirc.hk>
抄送: "Zhang Zhoucai" <joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn>, 'yanzhiwei' <yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn>, 'wangwei' <wangwei@cnic.cn>, "ChineseGP@icann.org" <ChineseGP@icann.org>
主题: 回复: RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables?

我昨晚传给你的收到了吗?纳入总的VARIANTs TABLE了吗?


发送自我的三星设备


-------- 原始邮件 --------
发件人: 齐超 <qichao@cnnic.cn>
日期: 2015-04-18 12:31 (GMT+08:00)
收件人: Jonathan Shea <jonathan.shea@hkirc.hk>
抄送: Zhang Zhoucai <joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn>, 'JOEZHANG43' <joezhang43@hotmail.com>, 'yanzhiwei' <yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn>, 'wangwei' <wangwei@cnic.cn>, ChineseGP@icann.org
主题: Re: RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables?


各位,好,

      我整理了一下Jonathan发过来的文字, 在APPFORM里有申请加入的新字以及简繁体对应关系. 

这部分大都在澎湖会议时被提出, 有一些已经被采纳被写进了CGP的字表里(但是像"㩜U+3A5C"并不在MSR里).

剩下有一些是当时会议被标记未决或未通过的但是包括在IICore里的, 我以黄色背景作了标记 .

其变体关系定义还请各位专家参考.

谢谢各位.



 

-----原始邮件-----
发件人:"Jonathan Shea" <jonathan.shea@hkirc.hk>
发送时间:2015-04-17 18:44:35 (星期五)
收件人: "Zhang Zhoucai" <joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn>, "'齐超'" <qichao@cnnic.cn>, 'JOEZHANG43' <joezhang43@hotmail.com>, 'yanzhiwei' <yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn>, 'wangwei' <wangwei@cnic.cn>
抄送: "ChineseGP@icann.org" <ChineseGP@icann.org>
主题: RE: [ChineseGP] 答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables?

附上的zip file21個字的variant考查。下星期一我會提供另外44個字的資料。

 

Regards,

Jonathan Shea

 

From: chinesegp-bounces@icann.org [mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Zhang Zhoucai
Sent: Friday, 17 April 2015 3:07 PM
To: '
齐超'; 'JOEZHANG43'; 'yanzhiwei'; 'wangwei'
Cc: ChineseGP@icann.org
Subject: [ChineseGP]
答复: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables?

 

齐超:

对不起,上午外出。

粗略看一下,有许多是日文略字。

我手头一时找不到原有的电子档,建议你:

1.       参考Jonathan的资料(他说有的已经考察过)

2.       用程序扫描J-variant table

把结果传给我看看。我现在出去,晚上可以再浏览校对。

 

 

发件人: 齐超 [mailto:qichao@cnnic.cn]
发送时间: 2015417 10:31
收件人: JOEZHANG43; Joe Zhang; yanzhiwei; wangwei
抄送: ChineseGP@icann.org
主题: Re: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables?

 

张老师,王伟,

 

   根据昨天王伟发出的最终字表,查询CDNC中已有的variant定义,形成了一个MSS最小化的字表variant

 

MSS中有 12334 个字在 CDNC中,剩下的197个(12534 - 12334)个还没有variant定义,如下(也可以在excel中筛选出)。

 

这些字不知道张老师有没有现成的variant集 ? 如果 case by case 确认的还是很费时的。

 

Unicode

Hanzi

34E4

3577

35A1

35AD

35BF

35CE

35F3

35FE

3960

39F8

39FE

3A18

3A52

3A67

3B39

3DE7

3DEB

3E74

3ED0

4065

406A

40BB

40DF

4137

44EA

4606

47F4

48B5

48BC

48C5

48D3

49D1

4A12

4AB8

4C7D

4C81

4C85

4CB3

4D08

4E55

4EEE

4FAD

51B4

51E6

5227

524F

5271

5368

5605

5689

56A2

576E

57DE

5817

5841

58CC

5BFE

5C02

5CC0

5D5C

5E3F

帿

5F10

6060

60A9

60E3

61F4

62A6

6335

633F

637F

63BB

6442

656D

65FF

663B

663F

6667

66FD

681E

685C

685F

68C5

6A53

6AAA

6C17

6D9C

6E13

6E7A

6E8C

6EDD

701E

7114

713C

7155

7200

72A0

731F

732F

734F

7363

73E1

73E4

7460

74A2

74C8

750E

7534

754A

7573

757A

758E

75E9

764E

767A

76CC

7807

783F

784F

7A36

7A4F

7A63

7AC3

7AD7

7ADA

7B6F

7B86

7B92

7C14

7C4F

7C83

7D9A

7DDC

7E4A

7E4B

8117

8133

81D3

8217

8262

839F

83B5

8420

84DA

8597

86CD

874B

877F

88B5

894D

89A9

8A33

8AAD

8B0C

8B72

8E99

8EE2

8F0C

8F19

8F27

8FBA

9039

9197

91A4

91B8

91C8

9244

9271

932C

9421

945A

9665

967A

96B2

974D

9771

982C

984B

98C7

98E1

98EE

994D

99C5

9A12

9A13

9A28

9C04

9C2E

9C76

9D0E

9D2C

9D44

9D8F

9DC0

9E78

9EB9

9EBA

9F62

 

 

 


齐超 via foxmail

 

发件人: 王伟

发送时间: 2015416(星期四下午11:38

收件人: KIM Kyongsok

主题: Re: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables?


Dear All

After the discussion in todays CGP meeting, Prof. ZHANG and Mr. QI Chao has produced a Minimum Shared Set (MSS) for C, J and K.

The MSS is consisted of the following code point subset:

A: IICore Base (9810, all fall in MSR)
B: Historically Registered Hanzi under .CN/TW/HK (7000/5292/4191, all fall in MSR)
C: PRC National Normalized Hanzi along with their traditional variants (8105/3489, some out of MSR)

MSS=A+B+C-D-E

D: code points in C, but not in MSR
E: Stroke or Radicals (31) LIDU?(5)  Out of BMP(62)

finally, we got 12531 valid code points aggregate a Minimum Shared Set, based on which C, J and K could define their own variants, or adopt others variants.

After all three GPs finish the variants generation and coordinaiton on MSS,
each GP still has the chance to add independent code points (with no variants) into MSS seperately, to from its own final repertoire.

STEP1: MSS generated and accepted by three GPs, a mininum code points set shared by all of us.
STEP2: variants generated and coordinated based on MSS
STEP3: Add each GP's own independent and unrelated code points, form the final formal repertoire.

Does this process work for you? please feel free to give your comments.

 

Regards

WANG Wei

PS: special thanks for the hardwork of Mr. QI Chao



 

-----原始邮件-----
发件人: "KIM Kyongsok" <gimgs0@gmail.com>
发送时间: 2015416日 星期四
收件人: "hotta@jprs.co.jp" <hotta@jprs.co.jp>
抄送: "Wang Wei" <wangwei@cnic.cn>, "Dongman Lee" <dlee@cs.kaist.ac.kr>, "Joe Zhang" <joezhang43@hotmail.com>, "Wang Wei" <wangwei@cnnic.cn>, "Kenny Huang" <huangksh@gmail.com>, Yuri <takamatsu@jprs.co.jp>, "Yoshiro YONEYA" <yoshiro.yoneya@jprs.co.jp>, "Zhang Zhoucai" <joe.zhang@unihan.com.cn>, "<qichao@cnnic.cn>" <qichao@cnnic.cn>, "Zhiwei Yan" <yanzhiwei@cnnic.cn>, "KoreanGP@icann.org" <KoreanGP@icann.org>, "ChineseGP@icann.org" <ChineseGP@icann.org>, "JapaneseGP@icann.org" <JapaneseGP@icann.org>, "? ??" <mjkim@kisa.or.kr>, "조성덕" <isanjo@empas.com>, "신상현" <partizan21@naver.com>, "KIM Kyongsok" <gimgs0@gmail.com>
主题: latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables?

Dear everybody:

 

KLGP is trying to prepare a repertoire and a variant table.

 

I would like to get the (or almost?)  latest versions of CGP and JGP variant tables.

 

Thanks very much in advance.

 

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경석      KIM, Kyongsok