Dear Kavouss, Thank you for your feedback. I believe all the elements of the answers to your questions are available on the website page but I will aggregate them for you in an email. As I am traveling today and tomorrow, my response may be delayed.

Thank you. Best,

Xavier

On Mar 1, 2016, at 00:29, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com<mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com>> wrote:

Dear Xavier,

Thank you very much for the file.

Believe me, the presentation is made in a good professional manner but for me it is difficult to get out of it what I wanted to get.

Pleas kindly provide a simple summary sheet and provide the following

Total ICG Cost, including Legal, in any

Legal cost for ICG, if any

Total CWG Cost, Including Legal (external legal cost)

Legal cost for CWG, separately

Total CCWG Including Legal (external legal cost)

Legal cost for CCWG, separately

Total legal costs extracted from the three above cost for external legal

Total other common costs to the three parts above

Grand Total of the above 3 costs

Regards

Kavouss

2016-03-01 8:13 GMT+01:00 Xavier J. Calvez <xavier.calvez@icann.org<mailto:xavier.calvez@icann.org>>: Dear all,

Please find below a link to the quarterly update as of 31 December 2015 of the IANA Stewardship transition projects expenses. This update provides for the project's costs from 1 July 2014 until 31 December 2015 (18 months).

https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/iana-stewardship-project-costs

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thank you. Best,

Xavier

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Office: +1 (310) 301-5838<tel:%2B1%20%28310%29%20301-5838> Fax: +1 (310) 957-2348<tel:%2B1%20%28310%29%20957-2348> Cell: +1 (805) 312-0052<tel:%2B1%20%28805%29%20312-0052>

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Dear Xavier,

Could you please acknowledge the receipt of my email and also indicate when I can expect to get an answer to the questions (in the thread below). Since you have responded to all other comments apart from mine, I'm wondering whether you have missed my email or will not be responding at all? In the absence of any response whatsoever, I will need to file a DIDP to get the answers I am looking for. I have also copied my colleagues from the Centre for Internet and Society, Sunil Abraham and Pranesh Prakash.

Thanks for reading this and hope to get an update soon,

Vidushi.

----- On Mar 1, 2016, at 2:56 PM, <vidushi@cis-india.org> wrote:

Dear Xavier,

Thanks for sharing this.

I'm a Programme Officer with the Centre for Internet and Society, and had a few follow up questions to this report:

1. Under the expenses breakdown for Professional Services, what is the exact breakdown for "travel support including visas"?
2. Under the same head, what constitute "other miscellaneous services"?
3. Under the head of "US Government Affairs (Lobbying)" - could you provide us with details of what the lobbyists did, what was said, and who they spoke to? In case you are not in a position to provide these details, could you kindly refer me to somebody who can?
4. Under the head of "Education/Engagement/Advice", I can't help but notice that perhaps some of the most powerful lobbyists are named. In the absence of a detailed report explaining their work with and for ICANN, we cannot make an informed distinction between their work and that of the lobbyists. Please provide us with details of their work, or direct me to somebody who may be able to provide me with this information?

+1 to Sean's comment about hoping we are more strategic in our engagement with professional services in WS2, and also more transparent.

Thank you for this and I hope to hear from you soon,

Vidushi Marda

----- On Mar 1, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Xavier J. Calvez <xavier.calvez@icann.org> wrote:

...

Dear all,

...

Please find below a link to the quarterly update as of 31 December 2015 of the IANA Stewardship transition projects expenses. This update provides for the project’s costs from 1 July 2014 until 31 December 2015 (18 months).

...

https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/iana-stewardship-project-costs

...

Please let me know if you have any questions.

...

Thank you.

...

Best,

...

Xavier

...

Xavier Calvez

...

CFO

...

ICANN

...

12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300

...

Los Angeles, CA 90094

...

Office: +1 (310) 301-5838

...

Fax: +1 (310) 957-2348

...

Cell: +1 (805) 312-0052

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Xavier,

I am sure I can not post to all recipients, so please reply to all quoting this.

The more raw data is published, the less work it is for you and your staff and the more fun for the requester(s) it is running it through R or whatever analysis software one uses.

But, in any case I urge Vidushi to participate in Work Stream 2 where DiDP is to be addressed.

el

Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini 4

On 2 Mar 2016, at 10:13, Xavier J. Calvez <xavier.calvez@icann.org> wrote:

Dear Vidushi, I acknowledge receipt of your email questions and will provide a fuller response to your substantive questions which require further analysis to be adequately answered. I can not yet assess how long it will take us to answer all received questions, but I will keep everyone updated once we will have assessed the amount of analysis required and associated time to complete. For your information, I have not yet responded to or acknowledged all emails received on this topic, as I have been traveling and just landed. Irrespective, you should feel free to file any DIDP request that you deem useful, which we welcome as always.

Thank you. Best,

Xavier

On Mar 2, 2016, at 06:56, "vidushi@cis-india.org" <vidushi@cis-india.org> wrote:

...

Dear Xavier,

Could you please acknowledge the receipt of my email and also indicate when I can expect to get an answer to the questions (in the thread below). Since you have responded to all other comments apart from mine, I'm wondering whether you have missed my email or will not be responding at all? In the absence of any response whatsoever, I will need to file a DIDP to get the answers I am looking for. I have also copied my colleagues from the Centre for Internet and Society, Sunil Abraham and Pranesh Prakash.

Thanks for reading this and hope to get an update soon,

Vidushi.

----- On Mar 1, 2016, at 2:56 PM, <vidushi@cis-india.org> wrote: Dear Xavier,

Thanks for sharing this.

I'm a Programme Officer with the Centre for Internet and Society, and had a few follow up questions to this report:

1. Under the expenses breakdown for Professional Services, what is the exact breakdown for "travel support including visas"?
2. Under the same head, what constitute "other miscellaneous services"?
3. Under the head of "US Government Affairs (Lobbying)" - could you provide us with details of what the lobbyists did, what was said, and who they spoke to? In case you are not in a position to provide these details, could you kindly refer me to somebody who can?
4. Under the head of "Education/Engagement/Advice", I can't help but notice that perhaps some of the most powerful lobbyists are named. In the absence of a detailed report explaining their work with and for ICANN, we cannot make an informed distinction between their work and that of the lobbyists. Please provide us with details of their work, or direct me to somebody who may be able to provide me with this information?

+1 to Sean's comment about hoping we are more strategic in our engagement with professional services in WS2, and also more transparent.

Thank you for this and I hope to hear from you soon,

Vidushi Marda

----- On Mar 1, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Xavier J. Calvez <xavier.calvez@icann.org> wrote: Dear all,

Please find below a link to the quarterly update as of 31 December 2015 of the IANA Stewardship transition projects expenses. This update provides for the project’s costs from 1 July 2014 until 31 December 2015 (18 months).

https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/iana-stewardship-project-costs

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thank you. Best,

Xavier

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Office: +1 (310) 301-5838 Fax: +1 (310) 957-2348 Cell: +1 (805) 312-0052

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Good evening, Thank you so much for this information. I also have the same queries as Vidushi about ICANN's finances , would appreciate a more comprehensive breakdown along the lines that she has raised as well.

Regards On Mar 1, 2016 7:40 PM, "Michele Neylon - Blacknight" < michele@blacknight.com> wrote:

Xavier

Thanks for sharing this information. It’s useful, though I suspect it’ll raise as many questions as it answers.

One thing I did notice was in relation to the legal fees. Doing some back of the envelope calculations and noting how much ICANN generally spends on legal fees one question did come to mind, and this in relation to ICANN’s overall budgeting. How often does ICANN change law firms? Has ICANN ever changed law firms? As far as I can tell Jones Day has been doing ICANN’s legal work since ICANN’s formation Has ICANN ever put its external legal work out to any form of tender?

While I know that people can argue that legal advice is not purely a numbers game, I’m also pretty sure that there are other law firms out that that would provide a similar service and potentially at a lower price. And my comments are no reflection on the quality of Jones Day’s work, but considering how much ICANN pays is legal fees per year I think it’s a question someone should ask.

Regards

Michele

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From: <community-finance-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of " xavier.calvez@icann.org" <xavier.calvez@icann.org> Date: Tuesday 1 March 2016 at 07:13 To: "accountability-cross-community@icann.org" < accountability-cross-community@icann.org>, "community-finance@icann.org" < community-finance@icann.org>, "cwg-stewardship@icann.org" < cwg-stewardship@icann.org>, "icann-board@icann.org" <icann-board@icann.org

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Cc: Senior Management Team <senior-management-team@icann.org>, Global Leadership <global_leadership@icann.org> Subject: [community-finance] Updated IANA Stewardship Transition Expenses Information as of 31 December 2015

Dear all,

Please find below a link to the quarterly update as of 31 December 2015 of the IANA Stewardship transition projects expenses. This update provides for the project’s costs from 1 July 2014 until 31 December 2015 (18 months).

https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/iana-stewardship-project-costs

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thank you.

Best,

Xavier

Xavier Calvez

CFO

ICANN

12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300

Los Angeles, CA 90094

Office: +1 (310) 301-5838

Fax: +1 (310) 957-2348

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Dear Marilyn,

I believe that was a concern raised by Mr. Neylon. My queries were the same as Ms. Marda, reposting them again from her email :

"1. Under the expenses breakdown for Professional Services, what is the exact breakdown for "travel support including visas"? 2. Under the same head, what constitute "other miscellaneous services"? 3. Under the head of "US Government Affairs (Lobbying)" - could you provide us with details of what the lobbyists did, what was said, and who they spoke to? In case you are not in a position to provide these details, could you kindly refer me to somebody who can? 4. Under the head of "Education/Engagement/Advice", I can't help but notice that perhaps some of the most powerful lobbyists are named. In the absence of a detailed report explaining their work with and for ICANN, we cannot make an informed distinction between their work and that of the lobbyists. Please provide us with details of their work, or direct me to somebody who may be able to provide me with this information? "

I too agree with your point in law firms

Regards Padmini

I am not of the view to pursue changing law firms at this time. Jones Day is an excellent global law firm. And there is also rationale to maintain the history and expertise.

Instead, I would like to continue the idea of independent legal advisor to the Board, separate from the Corporate Law Firm that advises the Corporation. It has been a long standing interest of mine to have independent legal advisor to the Board to advise on public interest issues, and would, I think, be a strengthening of overall independence of the Directors. It could be part of a new initiatives during a Review of the Board, not linked to the present Accountabiity CCWG, as we must, after all, launch the great work that has been done by the two WGs.

BUT, I see this as outside the present CCWG, and future work on a Review of the Board WG.

Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 19:45:16 +0530 From: pdmnbaruah@gmail.com To: michele@blacknight.com CC: cwg-stewardship@icann.org; accountability-cross-community@icann.org; icann-board@icann.org; community-finance@icann.org; senior-management-team@icann.org; global_leadership@icann.org Subject: Re: [community-finance] Updated IANA Stewardship Transition Expenses Information as of 31 December 2015

Good evening, Thank you so much for this information. I also have the same queries as Vidushi about ICANN's finances , would appreciate a more comprehensive breakdown along the lines that she has raised as well.

Regards On Mar 1, 2016 7:40 PM, "Michele Neylon - Blacknight" < michele@blacknight.com> wrote:

Xavier

Thanks for sharing this information. It’s useful, though I suspect it’ll raise as many questions as it answers.

One thing I did notice was in relation to the legal fees. Doing some back of the envelope calculations and noting how much ICANN generally spends on legal fees one question did come to mind, and this in relation to ICANN’s overall budgeting. How often does ICANN change law firms? Has ICANN ever changed law firms? As far as I can tell Jones Day has been doing ICANN’s legal work since ICANN’s formation Has ICANN ever put its external legal work out to any form of tender?

While I know that people can argue that legal advice is not purely a numbers game, I’m also pretty sure that there are other law firms out that that would provide a similar service and potentially at a lower price. And my comments are no reflection on the quality of Jones Day’s work, but considering how much ICANN pays is legal fees per year I think it’s a question someone should ask.

Regards

Michele

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From: <community-finance-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of " xavier.calvez@icann.org" <xavier.calvez@icann.org> Date: Tuesday 1 March 2016 at 07:13 To: "accountability-cross-community@icann.org" < accountability-cross-community@icann.org>, "community-finance@icann.org" < community-finance@icann.org>, "cwg-stewardship@icann.org" < cwg-stewardship@icann.org>, "icann-board@icann.org" <icann-board@icann.org> Cc: Senior Management Team <senior-management-team@icann.org>, Global Leadership <global_leadership@icann.org> Subject: [community-finance] Updated IANA Stewardship Transition Expenses Information as of 31 December 2015

Dear all,

Please find below a link to the quarterly update as of 31 December 2015 of the IANA Stewardship transition projects expenses. This update provides for the project’s costs from 1 July 2014 until 31 December 2015 (18 months).

https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/iana-stewardship-project-costs

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thank you.

Best,

Xavier

Xavier Calvez

CFO

ICANN

12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300

Los Angeles, CA 90094

Office: +1 (310) 301-5838

Fax: +1 (310) 957-2348

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Ah, I should have read from the start of this string. My apologies. I welcome the details you referenced, Padmini, and appreciate that I was sort of out of sync. "I-pad -itis" , or whatever excuse it is when my device is smarter than I am in terms of when a string started.

Apologies for that. I will try to do better.

M

From: michele@blacknight.com To: pdmnbaruah@gmail.com; marilynscade@hotmail.com CC: senior-management-team@icann.org; global_leadership@icann.org; icann-board@icann.org; cwg-stewardship@icann.org; community-finance@icann.org; accountability-cross-community@icann.org Subject: Re: [community-finance] Updated IANA Stewardship Transition Expenses Information as of 31 December 2015 Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 14:48:00 +0000

Marilyn – yes – seems you confused me and someone else

Also I never suggested that ICANN had to change law firms, but I was asking about if they’d done anything about putting it out to tender etc.,

I disagree with maintaining a supplier for business services solely on the basis of “history”. While that might be a factor, it should only be one of several, including how competitive the rates are.

Regards

Michele

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From: Padmini <pdmnbaruah@gmail.com>

Date: Tuesday 1 March 2016 at 14:45

To: Marilyn Cade <marilynscade@hotmail.com>

Cc: Senior Management Team <senior-management-team@icann.org>, Global Leadership <global_leadership@icann.org>, "icann-board@icann.org" <icann-board@icann.org>, "cwg-stewardship@icann.org" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org>, "community-finance@icann.org" <community-finance@icann.org>, "accountability-cross-community@icann.org" <accountability-cross-community@icann.org>, Michele Neylon <michele@blacknight.com>

Subject: RE: [community-finance] Updated IANA Stewardship Transition Expenses Information as of 31 December 2015

Dear Marilyn, I believe that was a concern raised by Mr. Neylon.

My queries were the same as Ms. Marda, reposting them again from her email :

"1. Under the expenses breakdown for Professional Services, what is the exact breakdown for "travel support including visas"?

2. Under the same head, what constitute "other miscellaneous services"?

3. Under the head of "US Government Affairs (Lobbying)" - could you provide us with details of what the lobbyists did, what was said, and who they spoke to? In case you are not in a position to provide these details, could you kindly refer me to somebody who can?

4. Under the head of "Education/Engagement/Advice", I can't help but notice that perhaps some of the most powerful lobbyists are named. In the absence of a detailed report explaining their work with and for ICANN, we cannot make an informed distinction between their work and that of the lobbyists. Please provide us with details of their work, or direct me to somebody who may be able to provide me with this information? " I too agree with your point in law firms Regards

Padmini

I am not of the view to pursue changing law firms at this time. Jones Day is an excellent global law firm. And there is also rationale to maintain the history and expertise.

Instead, I would like to continue the idea of independent legal advisor to the Board, separate from the Corporate Law Firm that advises the Corporation. It has been a long standing interest of mine to have independent legal advisor to the Board to advise on public interest issues, and would, I think, be a strengthening of overall independence of the Directors. It could be part of a new initiatives during a Review of the Board, not linked to the present Accountabiity CCWG, as we must, after all, launch the great work that has been done by the two WGs.

BUT, I see this as outside the present CCWG, and future work on a Review of the Board WG.

Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 19:45:16 +0530

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To: michele@blacknight.com

CC: cwg-stewardship@icann.org; accountability-cross-community@icann.org; icann-board@icann.org; community-finance@icann.org; senior-management-team@icann.org; global_leadership@icann.org

Subject: Re: [community-finance] Updated IANA Stewardship Transition Expenses Information as of 31 December 2015

Good evening,

Thank you so much for this information.

I also have the same queries as Vidushi about ICANN's finances , would appreciate a more comprehensive breakdown along the lines that she has raised as well.

Regards On Mar 1, 2016 7:40 PM, "Michele Neylon - Blacknight" <michele@blacknight.com> wrote:

Xavier

Thanks for sharing this information. It’s useful, though I suspect it’ll raise as many questions as it answers.

One thing I did notice was in relation to the legal fees. Doing some back of the envelope calculations and noting how much ICANN generally spends on legal fees one question did come to mind, and this in relation to ICANN’s overall budgeting. How often does ICANN change law firms? Has ICANN ever changed law firms? As far as I can tell Jones Day has been doing ICANN’s legal work since ICANN’s formation Has ICANN ever put its external legal work out to any form of tender?

While I know that people can argue that legal advice is not purely a numbers game, I’m also pretty sure that there are other law firms out that that would provide a similar service and potentially at a lower price. And my comments are no reflection on the quality of Jones Day’s work, but considering how much ICANN pays is legal fees per year I think it’s a question someone should ask.

Regards

Michele

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Date: Tuesday 1 March 2016 at 07:13

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Subject: [community-finance] Updated IANA Stewardship Transition Expenses Information as of 31 December 2015

Dear all,

Please find below a link to the quarterly update as of 31 December 2015 of the IANA Stewardship transition projects expenses. This update provides for the project’s costs from 1 July 2014 until 31 December 2015 (18 months).

https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/iana-stewardship-project-costs

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thank you. Best,

Xavier

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So Jones Day is on the inside leg and maybe that is not all good. Yes, we know they are responsible for the legal environment of ICANN, the corporation; told y'all a long time ago it is a lot more useful to focus on Jones Day analysis of transition than any other. Let's get real. A director of an American corporation would be dumber than a small pet rock to deal with all these matters absent counsel they know. And more important, they can consistently trust. It is what it is. You play the hand you get.

Second, it is not the legal jockey's fault that we ask them to answer political - as opposed to legal - questions. Said it before. If I had my shingle hung and got in on this deal, know well I would bill every red cent my time affords. We got off light, IMHO.

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I have heard many long-time members of the ICANN community opine that Jones Day, in coordination with the General Counsel (who is a former Jones Day attorney), wields decisive behind-the-scenes power within ICANN.

The issue is not cost, or quality of the legal work, but a persistent mindset regarding the interplay between the Corporation and the Community.

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Xavier

Thanks for sharing this information. It’s useful, though I suspect it’ll raise as many questions as it answers.

One thing I did notice was in relation to the legal fees. Doing some back of the envelope calculations and noting how much ICANN generally spends on legal fees one question did come to mind, and this in relation to ICANN’s overall budgeting.

How often does ICANN change law firms?

Has ICANN ever changed law firms? As far as I can tell Jones Day has been doing ICANN’s legal work since ICANN’s formation

Has ICANN ever put its external legal work out to any form of tender?

While I know that people can argue that legal advice is not purely a numbers game, I’m also pretty sure that there are other law firms out that that would provide a similar service and potentially at a lower price. And my comments are no reflection on the quality of Jones Day’s work, but considering how much ICANN pays is legal fees per year I think it’s a question someone should ask.

Regards

Michele

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*Cc: *Senior Management Team <senior-management-team@icann.org>, Global Leadership <global_leadership@icann.org> *Subject: *[community-finance] Updated IANA Stewardship Transition Expenses Information as of 31 December 2015

Dear all,

Please find below a link to the quarterly update as of 31 December 2015 of the IANA Stewardship transition projects expenses. This update provides for the project’s costs from 1 July 2014 until 31 December 2015 (18 months).

https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/iana-stewardship-project-costs

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thank you.

Best,

Xavier

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CFO

ICANN

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Los Angeles, CA 90094

Office: +1 (310) 301-5838

Fax: +1 (310) 957-2348

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From a business perspective I fully agree with Michele. There should be a transparent mechanism for ICANN’s procurement process and practice which from time to time should come under a review.

Best regards

Wolf-Ulrich

From: Michele Neylon - Blacknight Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 3:08 PM To: Xavier J. Calvez ; accountability-cross-community@icann.org ; community-finance@icann.org ; cwg-stewardship@icann.org ; icann-board@icann.org Cc: global_leadership@icann.org ; Senior Management Team Subject: Re: [community-finance] Updated IANA Stewardship Transition Expenses Information as of 31 December 2015

Xavier

Thanks for sharing this information. It’s useful, though I suspect it’ll raise as many questions as it answers.

One thing I did notice was in relation to the legal fees. Doing some back of the envelope calculations and noting how much ICANN generally spends on legal fees one question did come to mind, and this in relation to ICANN’s overall budgeting. How often does ICANN change law firms? Has ICANN ever changed law firms? As far as I can tell Jones Day has been doing ICANN’s legal work since ICANN’s formation Has ICANN ever put its external legal work out to any form of tender?

While I know that people can argue that legal advice is not purely a numbers game, I’m also pretty sure that there are other law firms out that that would provide a similar service and potentially at a lower price. And my comments are no reflection on the quality of Jones Day’s work, but considering how much ICANN pays is legal fees per year I think it’s a question someone should ask.

Regards

Michele

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From: <community-finance-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of "xavier.calvez@icann.org" <xavier.calvez@icann.org> Date: Tuesday 1 March 2016 at 07:13 To: "accountability-cross-community@icann.org" <accountability-cross-community@icann.org>, "community-finance@icann.org" <community-finance@icann.org>, "cwg-stewardship@icann.org" <cwg-stewardship@icann.org>, "icann-board@icann.org" <icann-board@icann.org> Cc: Senior Management Team <senior-management-team@icann.org>, Global Leadership <global_leadership@icann.org> Subject: [community-finance] Updated IANA Stewardship Transition Expenses Information as of 31 December 2015

Dear all,

Please find below a link to the quarterly update as of 31 December 2015 of the IANA Stewardship transition projects expenses. This update provides for the project’s costs from 1 July 2014 until 31 December 2015 (18 months).

https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/iana-stewardship-project-costs

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thank you.

Best,

Xavier

Xavier Calvez

CFO

ICANN

12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300

Los Angeles, CA 90094

Office: +1 (310) 301-5838

Fax: +1 (310) 957-2348

Cell: +1 (805) 312-0052

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