Hi, While I agree that this is an ok solution to the current conundrum, I do feel the GNSO Council has to learn to pick people who can represent the interests on behalf of entire GNSO for tasks, as opposed to needing to have one from each and every interested subdivision every time it is faced with having to make a choice. I think it is a problem that every time there is an allocation of seats, some group in the GNSO is demanding more. avri On 27-Aug-15 04:23, Tony Holmes wrote:
Jonathan
I very much support this approach. It would be very hard for those of us who come from Constituencies where candidates have applied, to engage in any form of vetting process.
Regards
Tony
*From:*owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Jonathan Robinson *Sent:* 27 August 2015 08:05 *To:* 'Mary Wong'; 'Austin, Donna'; council@gnso.icann.org *Cc:* 'Sarmad Hussain' *Subject:* RE: [council] Re: Request for GNSO Council to appoint/endorse GNSO experts to the new IDN Guidelines Working Group
All,
This issue has been dragging on for some time (the original deadline was 3^rd August) and there are possibly some lessons to be learned here. In my view, the Council is not set up to undertake the sort of recruitment exercise potentially required here i.e. some sort of filtering of the candidates against the criteria. At least not without further work on process.
On the face of it, all six candidates seem very well qualified and, given they have submitted fairly detailed resumes, appear motivated to assist here.
Therefore, I propose the following way forward:
1. Transmit the full list of six to the IDN Guidelines .
2. Communicate with the candidates that we have transmitted their names.
3. IN the same communication as 2 above, encourage those candidates to re-check their skill set against the published criteria and if, for this or any other reason, they no longer wish to participate, to communicate this to the Council and the WG ASAP.
If there are no objections to this, we will transmit all 6 names in the manner proposed above on or before 31 August 2015.
Thanks,
Jonathan#
*From:*Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] *Sent:* 27 August 2015 01:01 *To:* Austin, Donna <Donna.Austin@neustar.biz <mailto:Donna.Austin@neustar.biz>>; council@gnso.icann.org <mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> *Cc:* Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain@icann.org <mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org>> *Subject:* [council] Re: Request for GNSO Council to appoint/endorse GNSO experts to the new IDN Guidelines Working Group
Hi Donna and everyone,
The expectation is that the Council should make the call, since those appointed would be representing the GNSO in the working group.
Thanks and cheers
Mary
Mary Wong
Senior Policy Director
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)
Telephone: +1 603 574 4889
Email: mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>
*From: *"Austin, Donna" <Donna.Austin@neustar.biz <mailto:Donna.Austin@neustar.biz>> *Date: *Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 08:45 *To: *Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, "council@gnso.icann.org <mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>" <council@gnso.icann.org <mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> *Cc: *Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain@icann.org <mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org>> *Subject: *RE: Request for GNSO Council to appoint/endorse GNSO experts to the new IDN Guidelines Working Group
Hi Mary
Who decides whether the candidates have the necessary qualifications or expertise? Is it expected that the Council would make that call or Sarmad and his team?
Thanks
Donna
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*From:*owner-council@gnso.icann.org <mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org> [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Mary Wong *Sent:* Tuesday, 25 August 2015 5:04 PM *To:* council@gnso.icann.org <mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> *Cc:* Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain@icann.org <mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org>> *Subject:* [council] Re: Request for GNSO Council to appoint/endorse GNSO experts to the new IDN Guidelines Working Group
Dear Councilors,
Sarmad and his colleagues have confirmed that the GNSO Council can endorse as many qualified candidates as it thinks appropriate; however, as mentioned previously, all endorsees should have the necessary qualifications and expertise as documented in the Call for Experts: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2015-07-20-en <https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2015-07-20-en>
I hope this is helpful. We hope the Council will finalize its list of endorsees as soon as possible so that the Working Group can begin its work imminently.
Thanks and cheers
Mary
Mary Wong
Senior Policy Director
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)
Telephone: +1 603 574 4889
Email: mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>
*From: *Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> *Date: *Wednesday, August 19, 2015 at 04:31 *To: *<council@gnso.icann.org <mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> *Cc: *Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain@icann.org <mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org>> *Subject: *Re: Request for GNSO Council to appoint/endorse GNSO experts to the new IDN Guidelines Working Group
Dear Councilors,
Please find attached the resumes, as submitted to us, of the six candidates named below who have volunteered to serve as GNSO-endorsed experts to the new IDN Implementation Guidelines Working Group. Aside from minor formatting changes to package them all into a single document, we have not edited or changed any of the candidates’ submissions. They are listed in alphabetical order.
From what I understand from my colleagues in charge of the project, they would greatly appreciate knowing who the endorsed experts are as soon as possible. As such, may I suggest that the Council finalize its decision via this email list no later than a week from today i.e. *Tuesday 25 August*?
As noted previously, the original suggested number of three GNSO experts was based on the composition of prior community teams that worked on the Guidelines. The Council may therefore wish to endorse more than three for this new effort if it believes this to be appropriate.
I have cc’d Sarmad Hussain, who you all know and who is leading the effort, on this email so that he can see any questions you may have about the process or the necessary qualifications for the work that is to be done. I’ll be sure to post any responses or further information from him as well.
Thanks and cheers
Mary
Mary Wong
Senior Policy Director
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)
Telephone: +1 603 574 4889
Email: mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>
*From: *Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> *Date: *Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 12:25 *To: *<council@gnso.icann.org <mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> *Cc: *Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain@icann.org <mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org>> *Subject: *Request for GNSO Council to appoint/endorse GNSO experts to the new IDN Guidelines Working Group
Dear Councilors,
I write to follow up on the note below, to request that the Council discuss and decide on candidates it wishes to endorse, on behalf of the GNSO, to join the new Working Group that will revise the 2011 IDN Implementation Guidelines. So far the following nominations have been made:
* Chris Dillon (NCSG) * Christian Dawson (ISPCPC) * Jian Zhang (RySG) * Dennis Tan (RySG) * Edmon Chung (RySG) * Kal Feher (RySG)
ICANN staff supporting this new Working Group has confirmed that the original number of three GNSO representatives to the Working Group was suggested based on the composition of earlier groups that reviewed the Guidelines, so the Council may endorse additional appointees if necessary. However, it is important that all GNSO-endorsed appointees have relevant expertise in the following areas, as relevant for the second level of the DNS:
* DNS and IDNA protocols * IDN language or script tables, including variants and label level rules * IDN policy * IDN implementation * IDN label registration process and registration data * IDN related SSR issues, including string similarity * IDN usability challenges and universal acceptance
Three of the four RySG nominees have already kindly provided staff with their resumes/qualifications.
As the IDN Program staff would like to proceed with the formation of the Working Group (which will also have representatives from the ccNSO, ALAC and SSAC), it will be very much appreciated if the Council can reach a decision soon. _Given that the next Council meeting will not take place till September, you may wish to consider email discussions as sufficient. You may wish also to request that the other candidates send in their resumes/qualifications – either to Sarmad (cc’d here) or me – and we can compile them into a packet for your review by next week._ Please let us know if you have objections to this suggested approach.
For your easy reference, the Call for Community Experts and their necessary qualifications can be found here: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2015-07-20-en.
Thanks and cheers
Mary
Mary Wong
Senior Policy Director
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)
Telephone: +1 603 574 4889
Email: mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>
*From: *Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> *Date: *Tuesday, July 21, 2015 at 22:11 *To: *<council@gnso.icann.org <mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> *Cc: *Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain@icann.org <mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org>> *Subject: *For your action: GNSO appointees to the new IDN Guidelines Working Group
Hello everyone,
Following from the discussion with Sarmad Hussein at the Buenos Aires meeting, please be informed that the IDN project team has now issued a Call for Experts to join the new Working Group to review the IDN Guidelines: see https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2015-07-20-en. *They are asking for three GNSO members to the WG, which must be endorsed by their respective SO/ACs – and ideally applications should be sent in by 3 August.*
I’d be happy to bring this up during AOB on the Council call this week, but in the meantime it would be good if you and your respective SG/Cs could think about who the GNSO could appoint. As I explained in Buenos Aires, this WG was supposed to build on a list of issues identified by the GNSO and the ccNSO; unfortunately, although a small group of community volunteers was formed in February, there has been no discussion or input provided by that group (which has been dormant).
Nevertheless, one possibility is of course to endorse those volunteers from that small group should they indicate interest. Given the importance of this issue, we hope that the Council will give the matter due and timely consideration.
Thanks and cheers
Mary
Mary Wong
Senior Policy Director
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)
Telephone: +1 603 574 4889
Email: mary.wong@icann.org <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>
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