Option 1 and UTC

 

seems to be the best solution of two that's not (and likely cannot be) perfect for everyone.

 

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On 30 apr 2013 17:50 "Jonathan Robinson" <jrobinson@afilias.info> wrote:
Right, so we seem to be settling on option 1, a fixed time zone.
Just need to settle on which - UTC or PST and then we can put it out for
standard comment.

I think UTC since so much of our communication still refers to this at
least.
Given our meetings are at variable times, it should be approximately fair
overall.

Jonathan


-----Original Message-----
From: Volker Greimann [mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net]
Sent: 30 April 2013 15:29
To: Wendy Seltzer
Cc: WUKnoben; jrobinson@afilias.info; 'Zahid Jamil'; 'Marika Konings';
council@gnso.icann.org
Subject: Re: [council] Changes to GNSO Operating Procedures

I agree, Option 2 would complicate things too much. I thought that for
24:00 where the sender is located might work too, but a tough deadline would
be the clearer option.

Volker
Hi,

Since I proposed the reconfiguration to give people the clearest
notice of when motions were due, I'd recommend option 1. I recognize
that the amount of time wouldn't be quite the same from month to
month, but the deadline would be fixed. (I preferred 8 calendar days,
but 10 is a fine
compromise.)

--Wendy


On 04/29/2013 03:02 PM, WUKnoben wrote:
We vary the meeting times to balance the incommodities as best as
possible. I think its consequent to vary the motion deadlines with
the meeting times, too (option #2).
The deadlines can be published with the meeting calendar in addition
to every single reminder.

Best regards

Wolf-Ulrich

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- From: Jonathan Robinson
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 3:31 PM
To: 'Zahid Jamil' ; 'Volker Greimann'
Cc: 'Wendy Seltzer' ; 'Marika Konings' ; council@gnso.icann.org
Subject: RE: [council] Changes to GNSO Operating Procedures


All,

I'd like to close this off and move to posting it for public comment.

My understanding is that we are agreed on 10 calendar days as this is
global and meets what was originally intended.

As far as a time-zone is concerned, we have two options:

1. Choose a fixed time zone in which the 23h59 cut-off occurs. There
is no universally fair time zone to use for a global audience but UTC
seems as close to a standard as we have.
PST provides for a later sunset but is arguably less of a standard
than UTC.

OR

2. Agree that the cut-off is 10 calendar days (exactly) before the
meeting occurs. This will mean that the time of the cut-off varies
on a per meeting basis.
This is probably most fair but could lead to confusion since it
varies on a per meeting basis.
Still, as long as the cut-off time is sent as part of the reminder in
calling for motions, it seems reasonable.

Any comments or inputs, please provide them ASAP before we move to
public comment.

Thanks,


Jonathan

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[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Zahid Jamil
Sent: 23 April 2013 14:47
To: Volker Greimann
Cc: Jonathan Robinson; Wendy Seltzer; Marika Konings;
<council@gnso.icann.org>
Subject: Re: [council] Changes to GNSO Operating Procedures


How about using 23:59 PST as the deadline?



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On 23 Apr 2013, at 16:45, Volker Greimann <vgreimann@key-systems.net>
wrote:
While I support this in general, I am not sure we really need such a
policy. The proposed language cuts the time available for bringing
motions short for our American councillors compared to right now.
Volker
I support Wendy's language.



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On 23 Apr 2013, at 16:30, "Jonathan Robinson"
<jonathan.robinson@ipracon.com> wrote:
All,

I am in support of Wendy's wording (with a minor tweak) as follows:

Reports and motions should be submitted to the GNSO Council for
inclusion on the agenda as soon as possible, but no later than
23:59 UTC on the day, 8 calendar days before the GNSO Council meeting.

Any concerns or objections, please raise ASAP otherwise I suggest
we post for public comment.


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