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For motion 3 it makes sense to make an exception and delay a vote the PDP. We just received the Issues Report so it seems premature to be voting on a PDP, or at least to do it well informed. On the other hand, not sure why we need a motion to decide not to make a motion. Motion 4 is not critical and I see no reason to make a quick judgement call on that, especially when it has far reaching affects that we should seriously consider/discuss. I don't support making an exception for this one. For motion 2, I know we are already past the date that the Board has asked for a response, but we are getting into the Holiday season and I doubt much attention would be would be given to the STI proposal until after the New Year even if we approve/accept it this week. Also, is it appropriate to vote on it until it is complete with the minority reports added? Tim -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: [council] Motions for 17 Dec Council Meeting From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com> Date: Mon, December 14, 2009 8:27 am To: Stéphane_Van_Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> Cc: "GNSO Council" <council@gnso.icann.org> Strephane, We did not receive the Issues Report for motion 3 until Friday, 11 December, which was after the deadline for documents, a different Council Procedures requirement. I should have made that more clear. This discussion brings something else to mind that would be good to do going forward: We should make sure that the dates motions are submitted are always shown with the motions on the wiki and anywhere else they are posted. In checking the motions for this week's meeting, I see that we do that in some cases and not others. Glen - In the future, I suggest that we make it a practice to always show the date a motion was made after the name of the person who made the motion. Chuck From: Stéphane Van Gelder [mailto:stephane.vangelder@indom.com] Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 9:13 AM To: Gomes, Chuck Cc: GNSO Council Subject: Re: [council] Motions for 17 Dec Council Meeting Thanks Chuck, I don't understand why that requirement applies to motion 3, which you made on Dec 4, therefore well inside the 8-day requirement by my count. On motion 2, I am in the same boat as you (overwhelmed by emails) and cannot find the original motion proposal (which I take it was made by staff, since it is not even moved yet). Do you have a record of what date that was? Thanks, Stéphane Le 14 déc. 2009 à 15:02, Gomes, Chuck a écrit : Thanks for the correction Stephane. Not sure how I missed your second of motion 3. Regarding the Council Operating Procedures requirement that motions should be submitted 8 days prior to a Council meeting, that requirement would apply to motion 2, motion 3 and motion 4. In all three cases the Coucil would need to agree to an exception to the procedures requirement or we will have to delay action on all three topics. Chuck From: Stéphane Van Gelder [mailto:stephane.vangelder@indom.com] Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 8:43 AM To: Gomes, Chuck Cc: GNSO Council Subject: Re: [council] Motions for 17 Dec Council Meeting Hi Chuck, Your description is incorrect. I had seconded motion 3 on December 6. Further, it is my assessment of the 8 day notice requirement set out by article 3.3 of the GNSO operating rules and procedures that motion 4, proposed by Wolf on Dec 13, cannot be submitted for our Dec 17 meeting. I am happy to be corrected if this assessment is wrong. Thanks, Stéphane Le 13 déc. 2009 à 14:22, Gomes, Chuck a écrit : For our 17 Dec Council meeting, the following four motions listed below with their status are posted at https://st.icann.org/gnso-council/index.cgi?17_december_motions): + Motion To Approve Tool Kit of Services Recommendations for GNSO Constituencies and Stakeholder Groups (amended 4 Dec 09) - moved & seconded + Motion to Approve the Alternative Proposal recommended by the Special Trademark Issues Review Team - needs to be moved and seconded + Motion to delay decision regarding initiation of a Vertical Integration PDP - needs to be seconded + Proposed Motion on Support for a PDP Work Team Face to Face Meeting - needs to be seconded At this point, only motion 1 above is ready for action. So we need someone to make motion 2 and, if that happens, we will need a second. We also need seconds on motions 3 & 4. Chuck