I understand your point, Bill, but I think that, with
one exception, allowing each applicant to decide which SG should consider
his/her application will lead to gaming. I think we should apply the
following "rules".
1. Applicant stated in her/his application that
she/he is member of an SG or constituency.
One SG/constituency membership
--> assign to that SG/constituency
More than one --> applicant
must designate which one.
2. Applicant did not state in his/her
application that she/he is member of an SG or constituency
Councilor knowledge of
membership in SG/constituency --> assign to that
SG/constituency
Councilor knowledge of membership
in At Large --> assign to ALAC
No membership in At Large or
SG/constituency --> unaffiliated
From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org
[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of William
Drake
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 8:54 AM
To: Gomes,
Chuck
Cc: Glen de Saint Géry; Council GNSO
Subject: Re:
[council] FW: Organizational Reviews - 2 Applications for AoC Reviews - GNSO
Endorsement -
Hi Chuck,
On Feb 16, 2010, at 1:48 PM, Gomes, Chuck wrote:
Either way, these early apps point to a tweak we
should make
to the Proposed Process. We don't
presently say anything
about how apps will be allocated to the up to
six slots.
Chuck: Not sure I agree here. My
understanding is the following: 1) We say that the SGs decide who, if any,
will be allocated to four slots; 2)the Council will decide on the other
two slots. Do you think we need to be more explicit about that?
The process document reflects the state of the DT's
discussion as of last Wednesday, at which point we'd sort of said ok we
(DT/Council/ET) will figure out next how exactly the allocation of
applications to slots will be done, and we're debating that in the DT now.
But here I'm trying to look at it from an applicant's point of view,
and in that context I'm wondering if they wouldn't want more of a sense of
what happens after they hit send. I know I've had communication with someone
who's considering applying but would like more clarity. Presumably we
don't want to deter applications by fostering uncertainty, unless it's
unavoidable.
Perhaps we don't need to specify all the gory
details, but at
a minimum it would be helpful if the text asked
applicants to
say which SG, if any, they'd like to be
nominated by. (If
having been asked they still give no preference
the
Evaluation Team or Council-TBD--would have to
make a
determination in accordance with a procedure
still to be
settled and proposed by the DT). In these
cases we have a
CORE person and an IPR lawyer so maybe it's
straightforward,
but maybe not...
Chuck: I have
several concerns about asking applicants to specify which slot they want:
1) It would require us to more carefully define the slots to applicants so
they could make an informed decision and I don't think there is enough
time for to do that or to answer questions that would arrise; 2) some
applicants will likely choose a slot or slots for which we don't think
they fit; 3) if we did ask applicants to choose a slot or slots, I think
SGs and the Council for the two open slots should still have the option to
endorse a candidate for a slot they didn't choose, so what would the
advantage be of asking candidates to choose? 4) in general, I think asking
candidates to choose slots adds complexity that we do not have time for
without commensorate value.
Asking them to indicate if they see themselves as and wish to
be endorsed by any particular SG would make their desires clearer and help
us avoid doing something they object to, unless it can't be helped.
Let's say someone works for an entity that's nominally in SG x but is
really into the issues and orientation of SG y, with which
s/he collaborates closely and might expect stronger support than from
SG x. Simply asking which if any SG are you seeking the endorsement of
would provide a clarifying default. But of course, if ET and/or
Council decides the candidate really does fit SG y rather than x, or
should/not be treated as an unaffiliated person, ok, we need not be
bound by his/her indication.
I'm not going to hari kari if Council prefers to do it another way, but
have come to think that it'd be nicer to candidates if we simply ask them if
they have a preference, and that it might be useful in assessing applicants
from folks with complex profiles.
Cheers,
BD
One other thought: would it perhaps make sense
to post
complete applications to the web and then direct
people to
them there, rather than emailing zip files
around between the
secretariat, council, SG chairs, SG members,
etc? And beyond
the transactions costs issue, there's also a
transparency
dimension-the apps should be accessible to the
public, as
envisioned by ICANN's
call.
Chuck: Good idea.
Best,
BIll
On Feb 15, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Glen de Saint Géry
wrote:
Forwarded From: Alice
Jansen
Good morning,
In line with Chuck Gomes' request (see below),
you will
find enclosed two endorsement applications for
Affirmation of
Commitments reviews from candidates that
indicated GNSO as their SO.
Please note that although candidates have
specified an
order of preference for the reviews to be
performed, both
selected the 'Accountability and Transparency'
review which
Mr. Gomes stresses in his email.
The compressed folders attached to this email
contain the
applicants' CV and motivation
letter.
The application deadline for the
'Accountability and
Transparency' review will expire on February the
22nd,
midnight UTC, but as you know the GNSO Council
will have
until the 1st March to endorse the
candidatures.
Best regards
Alice
Alice E. Jansen
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ICANN
Assistant, Organizational
Reviews
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From: Gomes, Chuck
[mailto:cgomes@verisign.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 10 February, 2010
00:51
To: Marco Lorenzoni
Cc: gnso-arr-dt@icann.org
Subject: GNSO
Request
Marco,
The GNSO requests that applications received
from
volunteers for the Accountability and
Transparency RT be
forwarded to the GNSO Secretariat as soon as
possible after
receipt for distribution to the Council list,
SGs and other
GNSO organization lists. If applications
are received prior
to finalization of the GNSO endorsement process
on 18
February, it would be helpful if the applicants
seeking GNSO
endorsement were informed that additional GNSO
information
requirements will be identified on 18 February
and will be
requested at that time along with the CV and
motivation letter.
If there are any concerns with this, please
let me know.
Thanks for your
assistance.
Chuck Gomes
<Eric Brunner-Williams.zip><Victoria
McEvedy.zip>
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William J. Drake
Senior Associate
Centre for International
Governance
Graduate Institute of International
and
Development Studies
Geneva, Switzerland
william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch
www.graduateinstitute.ch/cig/drake.html
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