Hi, someone let me know that my attachment with changes to the minutes to make them more detailed and capture the nature of the discussion and thoughtfulness with which the Council approached this topic I didnt see that in the original very short version Here it is again I made many changes. As noted, I hadnt read Bruces document at the time. Ill look at the two of them now together. They need to be consistent, of course. _____ From: Marilyn Cade [mailto:marilynscade@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 11:50 PM To: 'GNSO.SECRETARIAT@GNSO.ICANN.ORG'; 'council@gnso.icann.org' Subject: RE: [council] GNSO Council extract from draft minutes 1 September 2005- suggested changes/expansion Dear Glen, thanks for the great turn around. The minutes, however, are a bit too terse to provide a full sense of the nature and scope of the discussion. It is important for the reader to understand that the Council was fully engaged, and considered several alternatives before finalizing a recommendation. Ive added in some elaboration that moves this into that direction. The Board wont listen to the MP3/the minutes need to have enough detail to note that the Councilors were fully engaged, and considering all the relevant aspects, etc. Hope this is helpful of course, feel free to reject anything not useful. I did this from memory/rough notes so may have missed/or even misunderstood something. Marilyn _____ From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of GNSO.SECRETARIAT@GNSO.ICANN.ORG Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 9:09 AM To: council@gnso.icann.org Subject: [council] GNSO Council extract from draft minutes 1 September 2005 GNSO COUNCIL TELECONFERENCE 1 SEPTEMBER 2005 - EXTRACT FROM THE DRAFT MINUTES 1 September 2005 Proposed agenda and <http://www.gnso.icann.org/meetings/agenda-gnso-1sep05.htm> related documents List of attendees: Philip Sheppard - Commercial & Business Users C. - absent - apologies Marilyn Cade - Commercial & Business Users C. Grant Forsyth - Commercial & Business Users C Greg Ruth - ISCPC Antonio Harris - ISCPC Tony Holmes - ISCPC Thomas Keller- Registrars - absent - apologies proxy to Ross Rader/Bruce Tonkin Ross Rader - Registrars Bruce Tonkin - Registrars Ken Stubbs - gTLD registries Philip Colebrook - gTLD registries Cary Karp - gTLD registries Lucy Nichols - Intellectual Property Interests C - absent - apologies - proxy to Niklas Lagergren/Kiyoshi Tsuru Niklas Lagergren - Intellectual Property Interests C Kiyoshi Tsuru - Intellectual Property Interests C. - absent Robin Gross - Non Commercial Users C. - absent Norbert Klein - Non Commercial Users C. - absent Alick Wilson - Nominating Committee appointee - absent - apologies - proxy to Bruce Tonkin Maureen Cubberley - Nominating Committee appointee - absent - apologies Avri Doria - Nominating Committee appointee 12 Council Members ICANN Staff Olof Nordling - Manager, Policy Development Coordination Maria Farrell - ICANN GNSO Policy Support Officer - absent Liz Williams - Senior Policy Counsellor Glen de Saint Géry - GNSO Secretariat GNSO Council Liaisons Suzanne Sene - GAC Liaison Bret Fausett - acting ALAC Liaison - absent Michael Palage - ICANN Board member I MP3 Recording <http://gnso-audio.icann.org/GNSO-Council-20050109.mp3> Quorum present at 14:05 CET. Bruce Tonkin chaired this teleconference. Bruce Tonkin clarified that the outcome of the GNSO teleconference would be conveyed, as a response that had been requested via the CEO, Dr. Paul Twomey, to the ICANN Board. The following step would be to work on the detail of the proposed approach to moving forward with the development of policy for new gtlds and report the Council's progress to the Board. Bruce Tonkin proposed seeking a high level decision that the GNSO Council would develop two policy development processes with the need to engage outside experts to assist in the two separate processes. 1. A policy development process which would look at the issues including - whether to introduce gTLDs, - the criteria for approving applications for new gTLDs - the allocation method, assuming that there was a limit to how many gTLDs could be introduced at once - the key contractual conditions for those TLDs which might include conditions such as: escrow policies, obligation to use an ICANN accredited registrar etc. 2. A policy development process to be undertaken in collaboration with the ccNSO for the introduction of IDNs at the root level. 3. The expectation that the evaluation of the previous round of new gTLDs would continue and the remaining work would be completed. 4. The GNSO will be seeking a budget to obtain expert advice to assist in these policy development initiatives. Bruce Tonkin called for a decision and council unanimously decided, by voice to support the decision. In discussion: Marilyn Cade supported the approach with the caveat to the Board that additional resources, in the nature of expert advice, were needed. Cary Karp cautioned in responding with regard to developments in the IDN components relating to the cc development. It should be emphasised that it was not only issues specific to the gTLD situation and thus a clear platform would be required as reference to provide advice to the entire situation as it would unfold across the TLD space in IDNs in a global situation. Ross Rader suggested that a compilation of work on IDNs, similar to that which was done on new gTLDs should be undertaken. Bruce Tonkin declared the GNSO meeting closed and thanked everybody for participating. The meeting ended: 16: 00 CET. * Next GNSO Council Teleconference Thursday 8 September 2005 at 12:00 UTC. see: Calendar <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/>