I meant no opinions or views.
From: tim@godaddy.com
Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 23:29:47 +0000
To: Rafik Dammak<rafik.dammak@gmail.com>; <owner-council@gnso.icann.org>; Adrian Kinderis<adrian@ausregistry.com.au>
ReplyTo: tim@godaddy.com
Cc: Olga Cavalli<olgacavalli@gmail.com>; Stéphane Van Gelder<stephane.vangelder@indom.com>; council@gnso.icann.org GNSO<council@gnso.icann.org>
Subject: Re: [council] Draft message to the Board

Seems we are splitting hairs here. The point is the Board has the report. The message Adrian proposed and drafted by Stephane states only facts not opinions or. Iews. I don't see any issue with transmitting it without a formal vote.

Tim

From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@gmail.com>
Sender: owner-council@gnso.icann.org
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 08:05:01 +0900
To: Adrian Kinderis<adrian@ausregistry.com.au>
Cc: Olga Cavalli<olgacavalli@gmail.com>; Stéphane Van Gelder<stephane.vangelder@indom.com>; council@gnso.icann.org GNSO<council@gnso.icann.org>
Subject: Re: [council] Draft message to the Board

not sure which email are you talking about, can you forward or copy-paste it, 
read again please carefully the email forwarded by Stephane, form which I copied the first part
"The At-Large staff has the honor of transmitting to you, on behalf of the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC), the Second Milestone Report by the Joint SO/AC New gTLD Applicant Support Working Group ( JAS WG) (attached).  We request that this Report be forwarded to the members of the ICANN Boad",
 that is at-large, not the WG which sent the report to the ICANN board.

Rafik 


2011/5/11 Adrian Kinderis <adrian@ausregistry.com.au>

Let me be clear.

 

Rafik, how did the JAS report get in the hands of the ICANN Board?

 

The rest of my email was copied and pasted from the report stating that the report is submitted to the Board from the WG, not to the GNSO or ALAC.

 

 

 

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From: Rafik Dammak [mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 10 May 2011 3:51 PM


To: Adrian Kinderis
Cc: Olga Cavalli; Stéphane Van Gelder; council@gnso.icann.org GNSO
Subject: Re: [council] Draft message to the Board

 

you mean the message from ALAC? 


Rafik Dammak

Twitter: @rafik



2011/5/11 Adrian Kinderis <adrian@ausregistry.com.au>

How did the Board get the report?

 

Also,

 

SUMMARY

This report is submitted to the Board and is currently undergoing ALAC ratification.

 

 

 

Adrian Kinderis

 

 

From: Rafik Dammak [mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 10 May 2011 3:38 PM
To: Adrian Kinderis
Cc: Olga Cavalli; Stéphane Van Gelder; council@gnso.icann.org GNSO


Subject: Re: [council] Draft message to the Board

 

Hello,

 

@Adrian I puzzled with you claiming that " report was sent directly to the board from the WG", that is false claim and fact, the WG only sent the report to (in 8th and not 9th as it is written in the draft letter) its chartering organizations and explained that clearly in my message to Stephane, so there is no need to rush if you assumed the former. 

I am also going to submit a motion soon for GNSO council consideration.

 

I agree with Olga that there is no unanimous support and we need to vote on that.

 

Regards

 

Rafik 

 

2011/5/11 Adrian Kinderis <adrian@ausregistry.com.au>

We have to rush because I assume the Board is reviewing the report having been sent it directly from the WG.

 

It is important that they understand the report has not been reviewed not approved by the Council.

 

These are facts. Why can’t they be stated?

 

Adrian Kinderis

 

 

From: Olga Cavalli [mailto:olgacavalli@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 10 May 2011 3:23 PM
To: Adrian Kinderis
Cc: Stéphane Van Gelder; council@gnso.icann.org GNSO


Subject: Re: [council] Draft message to the Board

 

Hi,
Should we have a vote on this?
I do not understand why we have to rush, could some one clarify this to me?
Best
Olga

2011/5/10 Adrian Kinderis <adrian@ausregistry.com.au>

Olga,

 

Maybe I can help, I believe SVG means that, of all the responses to the list so far, all have agreed with my statement and request to send a letter to the Board.

 

Adrian Kinderis

 

From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Olga Cavalli
Sent: Tuesday, 10 May 2011 3:09 PM
To: Stéphane Van Gelder

Subject: Re: [council] Draft message to the Board

 

Hi Stéphane,
my apologies if I missed some emails, I was travelling.
Could you please clarify "unanimous support"?
Many thanks and regards
Olga

2011/5/10 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com>

Councillors,

 

In response to Adrian's suggestion, which so far has met with unanimous support, I have drafted this short email to the Board. Please let me have your thoughts and any suggested edits. Rafik, as JAS WG co-chair and Council liaison, I think it is crucial that we have your input before sending any message to the Board.

 

Thanks,

 

Stéphane

 

 

 

 

Dear Peter,

 

On May 10, the Board was sent the Joint SO/AC New gTLD Applicant Support Working Group ( JAS WG)'s Second Milestone Report by ALAC. We understand that this report has not yet been approved by ALAC.

 

The GNSO Council wishes to highlight the fact that it has not approved this report yet either. In fact, the Council has only just received it. The report was sent to us by the co-chairs of the JAS working group on May 9, 2011.

 

As one of the two chartering organisations of the JAS WG, the GNSO is keen to ensure that the Board understands the nature of the report that it has been sent, and the circumstances under which it received it.

 

I would be grateful therefore, if you could convey the GNSO Council's message to the Board.

 

Best,

 

Stéphane Van Gelder

GNSO Council Chair