Thanks Liz, I'm concerned that we have too many layers between the Council and the work being done. That layering is making us lose sight of the work and how it connects to our goals, so we Councillors are not giving direct enough input nor reviewing closely enough what we get back out. Does the PDP Work Team need the intervening layer of the PPSC? --Wendy On 11/29/2010 12:00 PM, Liz Gasster wrote:
Wendy and all,
I do want to point out that the OSC and PPSC are actually at very different stages in their work. Many tasks that were the responsibility of the OSC are completed or nearing completion. The PDP Work Team, working under the auspices of the PPSC, has more work to do before completing its primary "assignments".
Thanks, Liz
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 6:43 AM To: Wendy Seltzer Cc: GNSO Council Subject: RE: [council] Motion to extend PPSC and OSC charters
Wendy,
I am assuming this is a second motion and, if that is correct, it will be treated as such.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: Wendy Seltzer [mailto:wendy@seltzer.com] Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 9:36 AM Cc: Gomes, Chuck; GNSO Council Subject: Re: [council] Motion to extend PPSC and OSC charters
I think it's clear that "more work needs to be done," but I would recommend that the Council as a whole take on the task or re-delegate it. Our recent dissatisfaction with the DOI language suggests to me that we all need to review these matters more carefully, and we're not helped by delegating them. Rather than exhausting these committees' volunteers, let's thank them and move on.
I propose this alternative motion (borrowing the initial whereases):
Whereas in October 2008, the GNSO Council established a framework for implementing the various GNSO Improvements identified and approved by the ICANN Board of Directors (see - GNSO Council Improvements Implementation Plan)
http://www.icann.org/en/topics/gnso-improvements/gnso-improvements- implementation-plan-16oct08.pdf;
Whereas that framework included the formation of two Steering
Committees - the Operations Steering Committee and the Policy Process Steering Committee - to charter and coordinate the efforts of five community work teams designed to develop specific recommendations to implement specific aspects of the improvements;
Whereas the OSC and PPSC charters expire at the Cartagena meeting;
RESOLVED the Council acknowledges the hard work of those work teams and thanks them for providing any final reports they wish to offer.
It's clear that the 2 SCs need to continue to work. Just our recent conversations re such things as the DOI recommendations or the voting
On 11/29/2010 03:59 AM, Stéphane Van Gelder wrote: procedures show that more work needs to be done. However, I would also like to ask where we are with regards to the oversight committee that there was talk of forming? Could that not also help move things in the right direction?
Thanks,
Stéphane
Le 28 nov. 2010 à 05:36, Gomes, Chuck a écrit :
Rob kindly reminded me that the latest extensions of the PPSC and
Whereas in October 2008, the GNSO Council established a framework
for implementing the various GNSO Improvements identified and approved by the ICANN Board of Directors (see - GNSO Council Improvements Implementation Plan)
http://www.icann.org/en/topics/gnso-improvements/gnso-improvements- implementation-plan-16oct08.pdf;
Whereas that framework included the formation of two Steering Committees - the Operations Steering Committee and the Policy Process Steering Committee - to charter and coordinate the efforts of five community work teams designed to develop specific recommendations to implement specific aspects of the improvements;
Whereas the Council intended the charters of the committees (and
Whereas the Council has now twice extended the terms of those
committees to allow the GNSO community implementation recommendations work to continue (see - http://gnso.icann.org/meetings/minutes-council- 24sep09.htm and http://gnso.icann.org/meetings/minutes-council-10mar10- en.htm);
Whereas the Council acknowledges the hard work of those work teams
and notes that those committees and their teams are diligently continuing their work;
RESOLVED, The Council extends the terms of the Operations Steering
Committee and the Policy Process Steering Committee and their respective work teams as necessary through the San Francisco ICANN
OSC end in Cartagena. Because both SC's and some of their WTs are still working, I am submitting this motion to extend their charters further. their attendant work teams) to be temporary and not to extend beyond the 2009 annual ICANN meeting without specific action by the Council; public meeting in March 2011. The Council directs each steering committee and applicable work team chair to identify the specific targets and benchmarks for their work and to share that information with the Council by 19 January 2011.
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