I understand your point, Bill, but I think that,
with one exception, allowing each applicant to decide which SG should
consider his/her application will lead to gaming. I think we should
apply the following "rules".
1. Applicant stated in her/his application
that she/he is member of an SG or
constituency.
One SG/constituency membership
--> assign to that SG/constituency
More than one --> applicant
must designate which one.
2. Applicant did not state in his/her
application that she/he is member of an SG or
constituency
Councilor knowledge of
membership in SG/constituency --> assign to that
SG/constituency
Councilor knowledge of
membership in At Large --> assign to ALAC
No membership in At Large or
SG/constituency --> unaffiliated
From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org
[mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of William
Drake
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 8:54 AM
To:
Gomes, Chuck
Cc: Glen de Saint Géry; Council
GNSO
Subject: Re: [council] FW: Organizational Reviews - 2
Applications for AoC Reviews - GNSO Endorsement -
Hi Chuck,
On Feb 16, 2010, at 1:48 PM, Gomes, Chuck wrote:
Either way, these early apps point to a
tweak we should make
to the Proposed Process. We don't
presently say anything
about how apps will be allocated to the up
to six slots.
Chuck: Not sure I agree here.
My understanding is the following: 1) We say that the SGs decide
who, if any, will be allocated to four slots; 2)the Council will
decide on the other two slots. Do you think we need to be more
explicit about that?
The process document reflects the state of the DT's
discussion as of last Wednesday, at which point we'd sort of said ok we
(DT/Council/ET) will figure out next how exactly the allocation of
applications to slots will be done, and we're debating that in the DT
now. But here I'm trying to look at it from an applicant's point
of view, and in that context I'm wondering if they wouldn't want more of
a sense of what happens after they hit send. I know I've had
communication with someone who's considering applying but would like
more clarity. Presumably we don't want to deter applications by
fostering uncertainty, unless it's unavoidable.
Perhaps we don't need to specify all the
gory details, but at
a minimum it would be helpful if the text
asked applicants to
say which SG, if any, they'd like to be
nominated by. (If
having been asked they still give no
preference the
Evaluation Team or Council-TBD--would have
to make a
determination in accordance with a procedure
still to be
settled and proposed by the DT). In
these cases we have a
CORE person and an IPR lawyer so maybe it's
straightforward,
but maybe not...
Chuck: I
have several concerns about asking applicants to specify which slot
they want: 1) It would require us to more carefully define the slots
to applicants so they could make an informed decision and I don't
think there is enough time for to do that or to answer questions that
would arrise; 2) some applicants will likely choose a slot or slots
for which we don't think they fit; 3) if we did ask applicants to
choose a slot or slots, I think SGs and the Council for the two open
slots should still have the option to endorse a candidate for a slot
they didn't choose, so what would the advantage be of asking
candidates to choose? 4) in general, I think asking candidates to
choose slots adds complexity that we do not have time for without
commensorate value.
Asking them to indicate if they see themselves as and
wish to be endorsed by any particular SG would make their desires
clearer and help us avoid doing something they object to, unless it
can't be helped. Let's say someone works for an entity that's
nominally in SG x but is really into the issues and orientation
of SG y, with which s/he collaborates closely and might expect
stronger support than from SG x. Simply asking which if any SG are
you seeking the endorsement of would provide a clarifying default.
But of course, if ET and/or Council decides the candidate
really does fit SG y rather than x, or should/not be treated as an
unaffiliated person, ok, we need not be bound by his/her
indication.
I'm not going to hari kari if Council prefers to do it another way,
but have come to think that it'd be nicer to candidates if we simply ask
them if they have a preference, and that it might be useful in assessing
applicants from folks with complex profiles.
Cheers,
BD
One other thought: would it perhaps make
sense to post
complete applications to the web and then
direct people to
them there, rather than emailing zip files
around between the
secretariat, council, SG chairs, SG members,
etc? And beyond
the transactions costs issue, there's also a
transparency
dimension-the apps should be accessible to
the public, as
envisioned by ICANN's
call.
Chuck: Good idea.
Best,
BIll
On Feb 15, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Glen de Saint
Géry wrote:
Forwarded From: Alice
Jansen
Good morning,
In line with Chuck Gomes' request (see
below), you will
find enclosed two endorsement applications
for Affirmation of
Commitments reviews from candidates that
indicated GNSO as their SO.
Please note that although candidates have
specified an
order of preference for the reviews to be
performed, both
selected the 'Accountability and
Transparency' review which
Mr. Gomes stresses in his
email.
The compressed folders attached to this
email contain the
applicants' CV and motivation
letter.
The application deadline for the
'Accountability and
Transparency' review will expire on February
the 22nd,
midnight UTC, but as you know the GNSO
Council will have
until the 1st March to endorse the
candidatures.
Best regards
Alice
Alice E. Jansen
--------------------------
ICANN
Assistant, Organizational
Reviews
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From: Gomes, Chuck
[mailto:cgomes@verisign.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 10 February, 2010
00:51
To: Marco
Lorenzoni
Cc: gnso-arr-dt@icann.org
Subject: GNSO
Request
Marco,
The GNSO requests that applications
received from
volunteers for the Accountability and
Transparency RT be
forwarded to the GNSO Secretariat as soon as
possible after
receipt for distribution to the Council
list, SGs and other
GNSO organization lists. If
applications are received prior
to finalization of the GNSO endorsement
process on 18
February, it would be helpful if the
applicants seeking GNSO
endorsement were informed that additional
GNSO information
requirements will be identified on 18
February and will be
requested at that time along with the CV and
motivation letter.
If there are any concerns with this,
please let me know.
Thanks for your
assistance.
Chuck Gomes
<Eric
Brunner-Williams.zip><Victoria
McEvedy.zip>
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William J. Drake
Senior Associate
Centre for International
Governance
Graduate Institute of International
and
Development Studies
Geneva, Switzerland
william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch
www.graduateinstitute.ch/cig/drake.html
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