I would actually like to see it discussed as part of the regular agenda rather than the consent agenda.  Not so much for the content of the wording of letter, but rather for the substance of the draft advice.  The way it is portrayed in the letter, although it says that it needs approval from the GNSO, it implies that the advice does have at least some endorsement from the GNSO community.  Otherwise, why would we (the GNSO) be soliciting feedback on it.  In my mind, there is a difference between putting something out for general comment through a public comment period vs. sending it directly to SOs for their view on the GNSO’s work product.  I know it is a subtlety, but the GNSO Council should be somewhat comfortable with the substance of the draft advice prior to directly soliciting other SOs and ACs views on the matter.

 

Can we get an update on the draft advice at our June 7th Council meeting and then decide how we want to position the letter?

 

Thanks.

 

Jeffrey J. Neuman
Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs

 

From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 4:48 AM
To: Thomas Rickert
Cc: GNSO Council List
Subject: Re: [council] [gnso-consumercci-dt] GNSO / GAC Session in Prague

 

Thanks Thomas.

 

So far, there has been no disagreement voiced on this list with sending this letter. I can therefore confirm that I have put this on the consent agenda for our June 7 meeting. I will be asking the Council to approve my sending of the letter as proposed.

 

Thanks,

 

Stéphane Van Gelder
Directeur Général / General manager
INDOM Group NBT France

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Group NBT

 

Le 26 mai 2012 à 16:38, Thomas Rickert a écrit :



Forgot to copy the Council ....

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+49.228.74.898.0


Anfang der weitergeleiteten E‑Mail:

Von: Thomas Rickert <rickert@anwaelte.de>
Datum: 26. Mai 2012 12:10:00 MESZ
An: Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com>
Betreff: Re: [council] Fwd: [gnso-consumercci-dt] GNSO / GAC Session in Prague

I am fine with the letter. One question, though: Wouldn't it make sense to put all the topics we would like to discuss in one letter or is this a completely seperated matter?

 

Thanks,

Thomas

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+49.228.74.898.0


Am 23.05.2012 um 16:31 schrieb Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com>:

As indicated in my previous email, please find attached my proposed edits to the Consumer Metrics WG letter.

 

 

<Consumer Metrics GNSO to GAC.doc>

Stéphane Van Gelder
Directeur Général / General manager
INDOM Group NBT France

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Head of Domain Operations

Group NBT

 

Le 23 mai 2012 à 16:21, Stéphane Van Gelder a écrit :



Councillors,

 

Please see below and attached a letter that the Consumer Metrics WG is suggesting I send as GNSO Chair to the GAC Chair.

 

I am adding this to our June 7 meeting as a consent agenda item so I would appreciate if prior to that meeting, we have discussed on the list so that we are all either comfortable with the text, or certain we do not want to send the letter.

 

In order to get the discussion started, I have a few suggested edits to this letter that I will send in a follow-up email.

 

Thanks,

 

Stéphane Van Gelder
Directeur Général / General manager
INDOM Group NBT France

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Head of Domain Operations

Group NBT

 

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De : Rosemary Sinclair <rosemary.sinclair@unsw.edu.au>

Objet : RE: [gnso-consumercci-dt] GNSO / GAC Session in Prague

Date : 22 mai 2012 23:23:51 HAEC

À : Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com>

 

Hi Stephane

Here's my suggested note from you to GAC to encourage GAC to provide early feedback to our Working Group on Consumer Metrics.

The WG is currently considering public comments received, including from the US Government. We are working to have the work completed for consideration in Prague.

This idea for specifically reaching out to GAC in this way came from discussion with Bruce Tonkin about how best to engage GAC in this work before we finalise the Draft Advice.

Cheers for now

Rosemary







Rosemary Sinclair | Director | External Relations
Australian School of Business | The University of New South Wales
Level 3, Building L5, UNSW Sydney 2052
Telephone: +61 (2) 9385 6228  | Fax +61 (2) 9385 5933 | Web: www.asb.unsw.edu.au

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From: Stéphane Van Gelder [stephane.vangelder@indom.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 4:27 AM
To: Rosemary Sinclair
Cc: john@crediblecontext.com; Neuman, Jeff; Berry Cobb; gnso-consumercci-dt@icann.org
Subject: Re: [gnso-consumercci-dt] GNSO / GAC Session in Prague

Looking forward to your note on this Rosemary. Thanks.

Stéphane



Le 18 mai 2012 à 03:07, Rosemary Sinclair a écrit :


 

Hi all

 

I have action to write note to Stephane on this very topic of GNSO reaching out to GAC on this work

 

Will circulate to our WG for discussion next Tues and then to Chair, GNSO Council

 

Cheers

 

Rosemary

 

Rosemary Sinclair

Director, External Relations

Australian School of Business

UNSW

+61 413 734490

 

On 18/05/2012, at 4:43 AM, "john@crediblecontext.com" <john@crediblecontext.com> wrote:

 

 

Jeff,

 

Berry may be able to phrase it more eloquently, but the matter of

Consumer Metrics ought to be on our agenda.

 

The Council should offer a report on the work so far in setting the

definitions and metrics for Consumer Confidence, Competition and Trust

that results from the requirements of the Affirmation of Commitments.

 

As you know, the GAC has a keen interest in this subject and it would be

useful to our working relationship to showcase the progress made.

 

Cheers,

 

John Berard

Founder

Credible Context

58 West Portal Avenue, #291

San Francisco, CA 94127

m: 415.845.4388

 

 

 

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Subject: RE: [gnso-consumercci-dt] GNSO / GAC Session in Prague

From: "Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman@neustar.us>

Date: Thu, May 17, 2012 9:23 am

To: Berry Cobb <mail@berrycobb.com>,

"gnso-consumercci-dt@icann.org" <gnso-consumercci-dt@icann.org>

 

All,

 

I am responsible for collecting the list of topics to be discussed

during that session.  Can you please give me a one or two sentence

description of what you would like to discuss and how much time you

believe it will take?

 

Best regards,

 

Jeffrey J. Neuman

Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs

 

 

 

 

From: owner-gnso-consumercci-dt@icann.org

[mailto:owner-gnso-consumercci-dt@icann.org] On Behalf Of Berry Cobb

Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 11:46 AM

To: gnso-consumercci-dt@icann.org

Subject: [gnso-consumercci-dt] GNSO / GAC Session in Prague

Importance: High

 

 

 

Team,

 

It is confirmed that there will be a GNSO/GAC session in Prague.  There

is already an agenda forming and if we want Consumer Metrics topic on

the agenda, we need to expedite the request.

 

I also learned that the GAC has already contacted the GNSO stating their

interest on the Consumer Metrics topic.  However, John Berard, as our

Council Liaison, should send a note to the GNSO Council requesting this

be added to the proposed agenda.  The Council will have to agree that

this is a topic they wish to discuss.  I suspect it will be fairly easy

for the Council to approve this topic for the agenda.  The only concern

will be time allotted to discuss it.

 

John, can you send this notice to the Council ASAP?

 

Berry Cobb

Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)

720.839.5735

mail@berrycobb.com

@berrycobb

 

 

 

 

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