Extraordinary Meeting Agenda
Presentation of background slides on the issue as prepared by Anne and Steve
Preliminary discussion, prior to deliberation over any motions submitted, regarding whether or not a vote on the IGO/INGO matter referred to the Council by ICANN IRT Staff is appropriate.
Council Discussion of the Motion and any relevant friendly amendments
Discussion of the Voting Options
AOB
Paul - the amendment you proposed was that Council not provide guidance to the IRT. Again, that is an abdication of responsibility where there is disagreement at the IRT level. Council should AFFIRM its role in this regard.Could you please provide a more detailed explanation of why you believe Council should not provide guidance to the IRT? Or is there some other concrete guidance that you are suggesting as an alternative?AnneOn Thu, Oct 2, 2025 at 12:45 PM Paul McGrady <paul@elstermcgrady.com> wrote:Thanks Anne. I agree that Council Leadership could rearrange the order if they wish, but having a conversation after a motion & vote about whether or not a motion & vote is the correct way for Council to handle this issue doesn’t seem to be the right order to me.
As for your suggestion that I could put forward a friendly amendment, I did and you said no. I don’t think my putting forward another request for a friendly amendment would accomplish much unless you are prepared to be open minded that the two binary options you presented are not the full universe of possible outcomes here. Please do let me know if you have had a change of heart.
Best,
Paul
From: Anne ICANN <anneicanngnso@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2025 2:35 PM
To: Paul McGrady <paul@elstermcgrady.com>
Cc: Terri Agnew <terri.agnew@icann.org>; council@icann.org; GNSO-Secs <gnso-secs@icann.org>
Subject: Re: [council] Re: Reminder: Input welcome on GNSO Council agenda for 2025 meetings
Paul. I think it is for Leadership to determine the proper placement of your position in relation to the discussion on the Motion. You are obviously free to offer other friendly amendments in the meantime and even in the meeting itself to address your interest in an alternative that makes sense. Keep in mind that both Council Co-Liaisons to the IRT believe that this matter is properly before the Council. Full discussion, including of course any observations you may have about (1) making additional proposals for a friendly amendment or (2) not voting at all will be welcome during the discussion after presentation of the 5 slides.
The only thing I am "digging in" on is the fact that Council is the manager of the PDP process and of proper Implementation when a disagreement arises at the IRT level. Again please see Susan's memo in response to you on Monday September 29 citing Operating Procedures etc. I think it is quite dangerous for Council to abdicate this responsibility as you are recommending. It would set a very bad precedent. This is without regard to how the vote turns out.
Anne
On Thu, Oct 2, 2025 at 11:55 AM Paul McGrady <paul@elstermcgrady.com> wrote:
Thanks Anne. I understand your position, but you have dug in and made your motion binary. We need a discussion about whether or not a motion and vote is even appropriate, which we have not had as a Council. I have no idea if my item will preempt your motion as I am not one to jump ahead to presumed conclusions. So, I respectfully decline your request to withdraw my preliminary item.
Best,
Paul
From: Anne ICANN <anneicanngnso@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2025 1:49 PM
To: Paul McGrady <paul@elstermcgrady.com>
Cc: Terri Agnew <terri.agnew@icann.org>; council@icann.org; GNSO-Secs <gnso-secs@icann.org>
Subject: Re: [council] Re: Reminder: Input welcome on GNSO Council agenda for 2025 meetings
Thanks Paul. What is this item you have added and how much time will it take? Is that item likely to pre-empt or lessen time for discussion on the Motion which is the main agenda item for this meeting?
If so, of course I have an issue with that and ask that you reserve your observations for the discussion that will occur AFTER my short slides are presented.
Thank you,
Anne
On Thu, Oct 2, 2025 at 9:59 AM Paul McGrady via council <council@icann.org> wrote:
Thanks Terri. I added a preliminary discussion item to be taken up prior to any deliberation on Anne’s placeholder motion.
Best,
Paul
From: Terri Agnew via council <council@icann.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2025 11:34 AM
To: council@icann.org
Cc: GNSO-Secs <gnso-secs@icann.org>
Subject: [council] Reminder: Input welcome on GNSO Council agenda for 2025 meetings
Dear councilors,
A reminder to all that a Google doc is open for all to add their suggestions and comments to the upcoming GNSO Council meeting agendas. This does not have to be in the form of a full agenda item proposal, simple comments and questions are equally welcome!
You are welcome to add to the document via the comments feature.
Thank you!
Kind regards,
Terri
Policy Team Supporting the GNSO
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