Thanks Caitlin, and thanks to Karen for sharing the notes. S Susan Payne Head of Legal Policy Com Laude T +44 (0) 20 7421 8250 Ext 255 Follow us on Linkedin<https://t-uk.xink.io/Tracking/Index/pRkAAGVfAADw_RQA0> and YouTube<https://t-uk.xink.io/Tracking/Index/bhkAAGVfAADw_RQA0> From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> On Behalf Of Caitlin Tubergen via council Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 10:23 PM To: council@gnso.icann.org Subject: [council] Summary of ICANN78 informal meeting re: PPSAI SENT ON BEHALF OF KAREN LENTZ Dear Councilors, At the last call, Susan asked about notes from the informal discussion held with interested PPSAI IRT members at ICANN79. For reference, here is where we highlighted this in the GDS session<https://static.sched.com/hosted_files/icann78/0d/slides-GDS-GNSO%20meeting%20at%20ICANN78.pdf> with the Council during the Hamburg meeting and the PPSAI IRT mailing list<https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl/2023-October/000960.html>. The discussion took place on 25 October 2023. NB, these are rough notes of an informal discussion and are not represented as comprehensive. Dennis reviewed the history and how we got to this point, and asked for people's thoughts on going forward. Responses included the following: * Wanting to be sure we have a clear understanding of the impact of EPDP Ph 1 (Registration Data), also Phase 2a. - factual basis. Should also take into account how contracted parties implement Ph1. * Law, industry, tools have all changed - recognition that some of the recommendations may no longer apply; look for what remains relevant. Some parts are possibly duplicative or no longer needed. * May make sense to start IRT from the point of implementing the PDP recommendations, not from where left off on previous implementation. * Recognition of level of effort, not trivial - building accreditation system. * How to take into account RDRS work. * How to involve the GNSO Council. Could raise now or if staff could triage the recommendations into buckets - Council could consider after looking at that. Don't want to start IRT if they already know they will be sending things back to Council. * P/P services could voluntarily submit to RDRS - not mutually exclusive with Council work * Will need a high-level view on whether the 2016 policy recommendations are now fit for purpose - can they be implemented in a legally compliant way. Avoid investing resources if policy does not serve present reality. * Data Processing Agreement aspect to this as well. * Interest to participate in next steps. No decisions were made at the meeting. Staff took the action to continue to review and update the analysis from 2021 and provide to the Council, highlighting anything that may have changed. As noted at the Council meeting, we are ultimately looking at developing a proposed work plan for taking up the implementation work this year, and will provide additional updates as that progresses. This would of course be dependent on whether there are questions that the Council wishes to take up or discuss further. Best regards, Karen ________________________________ The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential to the intended recipient. They may not be disclosed, used by or copied in any way by anyone other than the intended recipient. If you have received this message in error, please return it to the sender (deleting the body of the email and attachments in your reply) and immediately and permanently delete it. Please note that Com Laude Group Limited (the "Com Laude Group") does not accept any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan or otherwise check this email and any attachments. 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