They can't post straight to the list? Adrian Kinderis From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:00 PM To: council@gnso.icann.org Council Subject: Re: [council] Sponsorship of the ICANN Meetings On this topic, FYI, I am expecting an update or response from Staff in the next few days. I will send this on to the Council list when I get it. Stéphane Le 24 janv. 2011 à 18:12, carlos dionisio aguirre a écrit : Dear Kristina: The benefit for participate like sponsor must be measured by who want to be sponsor, not by ICANN. ICANN (or your financial manager) must measure and evaluate, the absense of sponsors. The situation is totally different and contrary. The rules of Economy are mandatories on that. Each one play their game. On the other side and in the instance to somebody think, that ICANN must to have registration fees: Im totally against on that, because: ICANN have a underlying principles, like participation and bottom up process, appart to be a" non profit organization". Where do you include this, when you decide to make that the people pay for participate? Yes, I know (perhaps the response is) the people can participate remotely. But you & me know that is not the same. ICANN model is good for me, if you make business with ICANN and have incomes for this businesses, and you want to have publicity within the meetings, so, you must pay for that. Im not completely sure, but Is not mandatory to be sponsor. Am I wrong? If you, like a Internet Industry company, want to make your product or service be visible, have no much more options. publicity, and pay to be sponsor. How Much ? The company decide if it appropriate or not. That means: free market. ICANN fix the price to be sponsor, and the candidate to be sponsor must decide if will be or not. After that, there are many other considerations to do, but I think this is the essential.
From my humble point of view .
Carlos Dionisio Aguirre NCA GNSO Council - ICANN former ALAC member by LACRALO Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 http://ar.ageiadensi.org ________________________________ From: krosette@cov.com<mailto:krosette@cov.com> To: council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:50:34 -0500 Subject: RE: [council] Sponsorship of the ICANN Meetings It seems to me that if we're going to be talking about sponsorship, we should also be talking about whether it's time for ICANN to start charging a registration fee to attend the meetings. I was dumbstruck when I attended my first ICANN meeting and found out that there's no charge to attend. Every other meeting I attend has a registration fee and some are quite high ($750+). Let me be clear: I'm NOT suggesting that ICANN should start charging a registration fee so that the meetings are revenue generators. I do think, though, that it's time to examine whether the costs of the meetings are high enough so that it makes sense to charge some fee that can be used to offset those costs. In addition, the more ICANN can recover through registration fees, the less money it needs from sponsors. As to the sponsorship fee, the prices and "benefits" are at the point where there's an optics issue, IMHO. K ________________________________ From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org> [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 3:40 AM To: Adrian Kinderis Cc: council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] Sponsorship of the ICANN Meetings I see no reason why this could not be discussed here. Is there anyone from Staff that can address Adrian's questions? As far as the Council taking a position on this, what do others think? Is there a desire to work on drafting a letter on this topic? Stéphane Le 23 janv. 2011 à 09:49, Adrian Kinderis a écrit : Stephane, I am not sure of the correct forum to bring this up however I do so here... I have been contacted by a number of my constituents regarding the severe raising of pricing of the sponsorship packages for the upcoming San Francisco meeting. In most cases prices within the different levels of sponsorship packages have doubled and it seem that ICANN is trying to secure a few sponsors at $500,000. This seems, to me at least, just plain crazy! My organization has sponsored on a number of occasions and are potentially again this time. However I am concerned of these changes and the impact they may have. The reason I bring it up in this forum is because I wonder if this is something the Council could take a position of. We all benefit from a healthy participation of sponsors. Without them the meetings would not exist. However, I believe ICANN is being just plain greedy and this could potentially harm future meetings. Your thoughts would be appreciated. Regards, Adrian Kinderis