I agree that shorter is better. I would prefer an executive summary format supplemented by audio and transcription. Why are our phone meetings not transcribed? I've always found that frustrating because it's then necessary to go through the entire audio to find what is often a 3-minute dialogue. If we're heading in that direction anyway, why not make it complete? Transcription has the added benefit of being easily searchable. K -----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sheppard Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 4:59 AM To: 'Council GNSO' Subject: RE: [council] Draft minutes of GNSO Council teleconference 29 May 2008 I am increasingly concerned that the GNSO minutes are overly long and detract from our work. The current set is 17 pages long. Finding the relevant details - actions we agreed upon - is hard. Is it really necessary to record every detail of "he said" "she said" and "he said again"? If people want a minute by minute record we have the audio file. A set of minutes should reflect: 1. Who was there 2. What was discussed (including key questions but not every question). 3. What was agreed. This level of detail seems to have grown. Past DNSO and GNSO minutes were not so lengthy. Has there been direction from the Chair to the GNSO secretary to do them in this way? If so why? If not, lets ask for shorter minutes please. Philip