Thanks Paul. Has this been discussed within the IPC and does it support the motion? Looking forward to the discussion.
Regards,
Keith
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Thanks Michele. Thanks Phil. That is why it was put forth as a motion to form a team to look at the issue (including knock- on effects), rather than a motion
to make the change. The vote in JoBurg will only be to begin looking at it, not to decide to do it. Since the team can consist of GNSO members, not only GNSO Councilors, I don’t think this will have a material effect upon the Council’s work (other than one
more action item to track and one more liaison to appoint).
Best,
Paul
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Phil
I’ve no idea about trademark infringements, but the knock- on effects of changing this could be massive.
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Michele
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Are we risking a trademark infringement suit from .global?
How about gTLD standing for Great Top level Domains? It could make the DNS great again. ;-)
But seriously, while the “G” in gTLD standing for generic may need rethinking, if we are going to open this up maybe the G should be replaced by
another letter or letters (NC for Non-Country, P for Private, E for Entrepreneurial, etc.)
I’m not opposed to starting a discussion of this in Johannesburg, but I’d think we need some substantial discussion on this before being ready
to vote on a Motion. We certainly have the time to explore it as there is no pressing need to make a short-term decision.
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On Jun 15, 2017, at 11:19 AM, icannlists <icannlists@winston.com> wrote:
Saying that only gTLDs are global may give a wrong impression on the scope of ccTLDs. There is also no requirement in RFC 1591 for a ccTLD to be sponsored by the local government, and indeed some ccTLD are not.
WHEREAS, the term “generic” has several meanings within various portions of the ICANN Community;
That may be so, but in IG(Internet Governance) that definition has quite a lot of consensus around it.
WHEREAS, since the advent of .brand top level domain names, the use of the term “generic” in relationship to Global Domains has become increasingly confusing;
That advent brought some "non IG educated parties" to the table, and while I'm usually for using terminology that is better understood, changing terms that have bylaws impact should be with extreme care.
WHEREAS, the ICANN Organization has already adjusted its nomenclature and has named the division of the organization dealing with non-ccTLD domain names the “Global Domains Division”
That's not correct. GDD also deals with non-gTLD matters, like IANA/PTI.
https://www.icann.org/management-organization-chart documents this, but that's a nuance that staff explained to meearly on when GDD was created and I asked if that was by design or mistake.
Rubens
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