Hi David - We can confirm with Nick, but I don't think the implication was for the face-to-face to encompass an entire day (25%!) of Meeting B. Only that the topic itself would be included in to the schedule/agenda for the Policy Forum. Something we can discuss further on our call in a few hours. Thanks- J. From: David Cake <davecake@gmail.com<mailto:davecake@gmail.com>> Date: Thursday, April 14, 2016 at 9:06 To: Glen de Saint Géry <Glen@icann.org<mailto:Glen@icann.org>> Cc: James Bladel <jbladel@godaddy.com<mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com>>, GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Subject: Re: [council] Letter to James Bladel_13Apr16.pdf Absorbing the full day Working Groups Pilot program into the schedule implies that they believe it is practical to ask Working Group members will take an extended period (usually a full day or nearly so for the Pilot Program so far) out from an already short and overpacked meeting. I am finding this hard to understand in terms other than Nick is either a) lacking in understanding of what the pilot program consists of and is confusing it with more routine policy work or b) has entirely unrealistic ideas about the scheduling of working group members or c) is making some kind of joke. I'd frankly he rather had just said no than make this rather impractical suggestion of incorporation. Regards David On 14 Apr 2016, at 5:10 AM, Glen de Saint Géry <Glen@icann.org<mailto:Glen@icann.org>> wrote: Dear Councillors, This letter has been published at: http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/correspondence<http://mailer.samanage.com/wf/click?upn=KTB340yHI8DoUtMP4BGJnral-2F6hkupRgT5qivhStIqpYc9ooSSrDMzEeq-2Fiww6R68D9Jo9rkUR8S6u0weY6PIg-3D-3D_r-2BdYbSjRm9r0i9vSiPZtW-2BX-2BAwnBbxYJcYft8cAni3iLz7nHdH1TO6yId4yJ1X5bCjn7UQ8ekPGWrKZXzU-2FB1vqqq7KS-2BMznRij3m3ZEI87WW3StxS8dTPOoQSB9krb-2FFJK2QHBzOYchxlxB81-2FrQgEKCZwhIWmFeV3hThjRR7ogCkshuA-2FPie9e6zmA6P8LI3FeKUEh3xT4riLnCHsO7nMzouRMxXUd8TFnl-2B2k3feMxMaOVnmFY1Ar1JT8Kd1-2F4VE2cFnc3gbVA6h4K3YyhG3Dn6e4CXjNlyeIFaI4w8B-2Fa2b7-2FBJ7PsedghUPNMaRGX-2FLAIAm0okbeKAU7OJY95gz7XiFrQdun7fbit2Z4FCJkilIp-2BqY3jN3cP-2BWyMLwWohCfuK-2F9a-2BJ2NZniUclqazjfIlkTV6eYKN1vl7c2eADhOC-2BmdQpCcmAC5ZFnwUqn-2FcONyLUyQBUN7Q34DUXi0YNXnYNE8zFpI8BrHm-2BkAU-3D> http://gnso.icann.org/en/correspondence/tomasso-to-bladel-13apr16-en.pdf<http://mailer.samanage.com/wf/click?upn=KTB340yHI8DoUtMP4BGJnral-2F6hkupRgT5qivhStIqoExAjgxJgreLIp0IioJuTv-2Fb-2BnjpU41y3huUg-2Bcjfp2io3E5AFPJ9mDVdHCMZMPdM-3D_r-2BdYbSjRm9r0i9vSiPZtW-2BX-2BAwnBbxYJcYft8cAni3iLz7nHdH1TO6yId4yJ1X5bCjn7UQ8ekPGWrKZXzU-2FB1vqqq7KS-2BMznRij3m3ZEI87WW3StxS8dTPOoQSB9krb-2FFJK2QHBzOYchxlxB81-2FrQgEKCZwhIWmFeV3hThjRR7ogCkshuA-2FPie9e6zmA6P8LI3FeKUEh3xT4riLnCHsO7nMzouRMxXUd8TFnl-2B2k3feMxMaOVnmFY1Ar1JT8Kd1-2F4VE2cFnc3gbVA6h4K3YyhG3Dn6e4CXjNlyeIFaI4w8Cuz18FBu7x7vilFPmA-2B7NMpdvjlkkySD6HrY5tbqZ-2Bl7I2-2BXlcSUynQDV8FiBSx1GC2c2N4Q0hXbGBGzwnL2t3vwfFcM88wKwKs3fUcqQsWXVGv2EFOBBVAPdTtW0kblexDoBngZGUTTi23r5Yc4w0SL6RSHfhkSTiEBjYDZBbG62Kuad-2BYQ7n1zQPkoJSsXA-3D> Thank you. Kind regards, Glen De : owner-council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org> [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] De la part de James M. Bladel Envoyé : jeudi 14 avril 2016 04:41 À : GNSO Council List Objet : [council] FW: [gnso-chairs] Letter to James Bladel_13Apr16.pdf Councilor Colleagues - Please see attached for a letter form Nick Tomasso, responding to our earlier request regarding a face-to-face PDP meeting. During our discussions in Marrakech and with smaller groups, we have tried to balance the value of having these sessions at ICANN meetings, while trying to remain faithful to the intention of the "Meeting B" policy forum concept. As for Nick's response, I would like to draw your attention to this statement in particular: "It is anticipated that the PDP Working Groups Pilot Program will be absorbed into the 'Meeting B' schedule rather than having an additional day specifically for that purpose." I agree that the Policy Forum concept must recognize the importance of advancing the work of ongoing PDPs, but would emphasize incorporating these in to the 4 day schedule, rather than add an optional 5th day. I welcome thoughts from others on this topics and Nicks' letter, and I'm looking forward to further discussions on tomorrow's call. Thank you, J. From: <owner-gnso-chairs@icann.org<mailto:owner-gnso-chairs@icann.org>> on behalf of "Tanzanica S. King" <tanzanica.king@icann.org<mailto:tanzanica.king@icann.org>> Date: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 21:26 To: "gnso-chairs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org>" <gnso-chairs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org>> Cc: David Olive <david.olive@icann.org<mailto:david.olive@icann.org>>, "Board-Ops-Team@icann.org<mailto:Board-Ops-Team@icann.org>" <board-ops-team@icann.org<mailto:board-ops-team@icann.org>>, Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org>>, Sally Costerton <sally.costerton@icann.org<mailto:sally.costerton@icann.org>> Subject: [gnso-chairs] Letter to James Bladel_13Apr16.pdf Dear James, Please find the attached letter from Nick Tomasso concerning your request for face-to-face sessions of PDP Working Groups linked to ICANN56. Best regards, Tanzanica ________________________________ Tanzanica S. King Sr. Manager, Meeting Strategy and Design ICANN Office +1 310 301 5800 Mobile +1 310 995 3038 Email king@icann.org<mailto:king@icann.org> www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org/>