+1 Marika. Thanks.
From: Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 3:10 AM
To: Jeff Neuman <jeff@jjnsolutions.com>; Paul McGrady <paul@elstermcgrady.com>; Anne ICANN <anneicanngnso@gmail.com>
Cc: gnso-secs@icann.org; Nathalie Peregrine via council <council@gnso.icann.org>
Subject: Re: [council] Update from the SubPro Small Team in Advance of ICANN 78
For clarity, this is what the assignment form includes:
“In addition, each GNSO Stakeholder Group and Constituency may put forward one subject matter expert (SME) plus alternate to help inform assignment #7. It is understood that depending on the subject matter under discussion, the SME may change. The same arrangement will apply for Advisory Committees that have expressed an interest to participate in the deliberations in relation to assignment #6 (e.g. GAC topic leads). As such, the small team is expected to plan with sufficient advance notice when certain subjects are expected to be addressed so that the GNSO Secretariat can be informed accordingly should there be changes to the SME. At a minimum, SMEs are expected to be familiar, or familiarize themselves, with the SubPro Initial Report and Final Report sections on these specific topics as well as small team deliberations to date.”
It will be up to the GNSO SG/C / AC to identify who they consider meeting these criteria, it is not for the small team or Council to vet whether or not that is the case.
I hope that addresses any concerns.
Best regards,
Marika
From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Jeff Neuman via council <council@gnso.icann.org>
Reply to: Jeff Neuman <jeff@jjnsolutions.com>
Date: Saturday, 21 October 2023 at 10:03
To: Paul McGrady <paul@elstermcgrady.com>, Anne ICANN <anneicanngnso@gmail.com>
Cc: "gnso-secs@icann.org" <gnso-secs@icann.org>, Nathalie Peregrine via council <council@gnso.icann.org>
Subject: Re: [council] Update from the SubPro Small Team in Advance of ICANN 78
Just to clarify my position since I was mentioned. I do not like the use of the term SME, that is true. However, so long as we can be assured that no one will be refused membership to this group based on the fact that others do not believe they are a “SME”. If a name is submitted by the GAC, ALAC, GNSO Constituency or SG, then that person’s subject matter expertise should not be initially questioned by others.
This is not to say that the persons submitted cannot be removed for the normal reasons. Just that no one should be questioned on whether they fit the “SME” definition.
Sincerely,
Jeff
From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Paul McGrady via council <council@gnso.icann.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 9:37 AM
To: Anne ICANN <anneicanngnso@gmail.com>
Cc: gnso-secs@icann.org <gnso-secs@icann.org>; Nathalie Peregrine via council <council@gnso.icann.org>
Subject: Re: [council] Update from the SubPro Small Team in Advance of ICANN 78
Thanks Anne. The term SME was the one discussed at Council as was how the SMEs would be invited, how many, etc. SME was a way to rope on a broad array of people from GAC Topic Leads to the most interested and informed members at the C level. We need to keep moving forward, not attempt to rewrite work already completed. Please let me know if this is your “hill to die on.” If so, let’s try to get some time with Council leadership ASAP. If not, let’s stay on track even if the acronyms aren’t everyone’s favorite. Thanks.
Best,
Paul
From: Anne ICANN <anneicanngnso@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 2:19 PM
To: Paul McGrady <paul@elstermcgrady.com>
Cc: Nathalie Peregrine via council <council@gnso.icann.org>; gnso-secs@icann.org
Subject: Re: [council] Update from the SubPro Small Team in Advance of ICANN 78
Thanks Paul. Again, as Jeff and i have both commented, I don't think that "identificaition of SMEs" is the way to go in connection with community consultation in the ByLaws Supplemental Recommendation process. I understood we intended to invite GAC designated leaders and to invite the ALAC to send participants (Justine of course and maybe others). Obviously other SOs and ACs have access to participate in the Small Team Plus because any member of Council is free to join the small team at any time.
We are not really talking about SMEs here and this sentence should be revised to change "SMEs" to "designated community participants" or something of that nature.
"The proposed work plan will then also allow starting the outreach to identify SMEs to assist with these deliberations."
On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 6:27 AM Paul McGrady via council <council@gnso.icann.org> wrote:
Hi All,
Please see this document [docs.google.com] which is an update on our progress and a list of questions for the Board for our SubPro session with them. Please let me know if you have any questions. Safe travels everyone!
Best,
Paul
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