Looks to me as though this topic of the letter from the GAC needs to be on the agenda for the October 20 Council meeting. I can’t log in to Google Docs and Paul is the Council liaison to the GGP so maybe Paul has a suggestion as to whether this belongs on the agenda? Anne Anne E. Aikman-Scalese Of Counsel AAikman@lewisroca.com<mailto:AAikman@lewisroca.com> D. 520.629.4428 [cid:image004.png@01D8D8BD.7B4249B0] From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> On Behalf Of Jeff Neuman via council Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 8:07 AM To: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org>; McGrady, Jr., Paul D. <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: Re: [council] [Ext] RE: [gnso-chairs] GAC Chair Letter to GNSO Chair - GGP Applicant Support [EXTERNAL] ________________________________ All, As the GNSO Liaison to the GAC, I do not believe we should remind them again about the unlimited number of Observers. Not only was this communicated to them by me in communication the Council has seen, but it was acknowledged in the GAC Letter to the Council. Their request is specific to having more working group members. Therefore, in any future communication with the GAC, I would strongly recommend that we not restate the point about having multiple observers. This is not intended to take away from the rest of the points made by Seb and Julie nor is it intended to express a view on whether the GAC or anyone else should have more “members”. Rather, just a recommendation on how to deliver whatever message we want to send to the GAC. Sincerely, Jeff Neuman GNSO Liaison to GAC [cid:image005.png@01D8D8BD.7B4249B0] Jeffrey J. Neuman Founder & CEO JJN Solutions, LLC p: +1.202.549.5079 E: jeff@jjnsolutions.com<mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com> http://jjnsolutions.com From: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org<mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org>> Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 10:09 AM To: McGrady, Jr., Paul D. <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com<mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>>; Jeff Neuman <jeff@jjnsolutions.com<mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com>>; council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ext] RE: [council] [gnso-chairs] GAC Chair Letter to GNSO Chair - GGP Applicant Support Hi Paul, Thanks for your comments/question. Staff can’t speak for Sebastien of course, but here are a couple of points from staff for clarification if that is helpful. First, the GAC (or any other group) is not limited as to the number of Observers. Second, whether someone is deemed qualified as an SME is for the Working Group – not the GAC -- to decide. This is why Sebastien says in his message below, “Those SMEs may include GAC members [emphasis added], as well as other members of the community.” We think that’s consistent with what you are suggesting too. From the GGP Initiation Request: The Working Group has the flexibility/discretion to rely on Subject Matter Experts (SMEs) in specific fields to aid in deliberations for certain tasks. These SMEs will not be considered as Members as captured in the table above. The Working Group will inventory its skill set as well as the additional skills necessary for the team to succeed and use this analysis to recruit additional expertise from outside the ICANN community. Again, we hope this is helpful. Kind regards, Julie From: "McGrady, Jr., Paul D." <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com<mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>> Date: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 at 9:17 AM To: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org<mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org>>, Jeff Neuman <jeff@jjnsolutions.com<mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com>>, "council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>" <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Subject: [Ext] RE: [council] [gnso-chairs] GAC Chair Letter to GNSO Chair - GGP Applicant Support Thanks Seb. So, how does this work practically? Do we go back to the GAC via Jeff and let them know that we are going to stick with the original 1 WG member + 1 Observer/backup and ask them to let us know if they have any SMEs that would also want to participate in some fashion? If they can produce one or two additional people who qualify as SMEs that would give them the broader participation in the GGP they are requesting without upsetting everyone who didn’t get even 1 representative (since recruitment was limited to SGs and not Cs). And, having proper SMEs will enhance the final work product, so it is a win for everyone. Best, Paul Taft / Paul D. McGrady, Jr. Partner PMcGrady@taftlaw.com<mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com> Dir: 312.836.4094 | Cell: 312.882.5020 Tel: 312.527.4000 | Fax: 312.754.2354 111 E. 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From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>> On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund via council Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 7:11 AM To: Jeff Neuman <jeff@jjnsolutions.com<mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com>>; council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] [gnso-chairs] GAC Chair Letter to GNSO Chair - GGP Applicant Support Sending on behalf of Sebastien Ducos **************** Dear Councilors, I hope your travels home from Kuala Lumpur went well. With respect to the GGP - Applicant Support, here are a few points that I’d like to emphasize that might help us as we consider how the Council should respond to the GAC’s request to expand its participation in the GGP from 1 to 2 members and 2 alternates. We are suggesting to not expand the Working Group membership as the GAC has requested, but are interested in hearing your thoughts. First, we need to emphasize the limited scope of work of the GGP, as opposed to the broader topic area. Specifically, the GGP scope of work is primarily limited to two tasks: Analyze the set of suggested metrics in Implementation Guidance 17.9 and propose which ones should be prioritized; and identify any other appropriate metrics and measures of success to help in identifying the necessary program elements and measuring program success after the fact. And Recommend a methodology for allocating financial support where there is inadequate funding for all qualified applicants. It is important to note in relation to the GGP scope of work that it does not include opening up any of the existing recommendations already approved by the Council for further consideration or analysis. Second, we also should emphasize that in developing the GGP Initiation Request, the Council ultimately determined that the optimal membership model was a Working Group, as opposed to a Steering Group, limited to a small group of “Representatives + Observers” that could conclude its work in an efficient/effective manner while allowing for inclusive community participation. However, to ensure a variety of viewpoints from geographically diverse (particularly underserved regions) it is important to note that the Working Group has been encouraged to consider involvement by Subject Matter Experts (SMEs) in improving engagement in underserved regions and addressing issues unique to new gTLD applicant support relevant to those regions. Those SMEs may include GAC members, as well as other members of the community. I hope that you find these suggestions to be helpful in the Council’s consideration of the GAC’s request. Kind regards, Sebastien Ducos GNSO Chair From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>> on behalf of Jeff Neuman via council <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Reply-To: Jeff Neuman <jeff@jjnsolutions.com<mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com>> Date: Monday, October 3, 2022 at 6:35 PM To: Julie Bisland <julie.bisland@icann.org<mailto:julie.bisland@icann.org>>, "council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>" <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Cc: "gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>" <gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [council] [gnso-chairs] GAC Chair Letter to GNSO Chair - GGP Applicant Support All, This is the GAC’s Chairs formal ask for two (2) members and two (2) alternates to the Applicant Support GGP. Please let me know how the Council would like to proceed. Do you want to add this as an agenda item to the October Council meeting? I am here to support you all in however you would like to proceed. Sincerely, Jeff Neuman GNSO Liaison to GAC [cid:image006.png@01D8D8BD.7B4249B0] Jeffrey J. Neuman Founder & CEO JJN Solutions, LLC p: +1.202.549.5079 E: jeff@jjnsolutions.com<mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com> http://jjnsolutions.com [jjnsolutions.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/jjnsolutions.com__;!!PtGJab4!-O-EMpW63eJ6wcqS9i7JVqOyMjzSWJfWZ3h5gfPPpOmtFSY8TL63CdfaX0f5p4JUEZQ171KcigQqganzbYzgoGUVJAC1Og$> From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>> On Behalf Of Julie Bisland via council Sent: Monday, October 3, 2022 12:06 PM To: council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> Cc: gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> Subject: [council] FW: [gnso-chairs] GAC Chair Letter to GNSO Chair - GGP Applicant Support Dear Councilors, Please see attached response from Manal Ismail. Best regards, Julie From: Gnso-chairs <gnso-chairs-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-chairs-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Benedetta Rossi via Gnso-chairs <gnso-chairs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org>> Reply-To: Benedetta Rossi <benedetta.rossi@icann.org<mailto:benedetta.rossi@icann.org>> Date: Monday, October 3, 2022 at 9:16 AM To: "gnso-chairs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org>" <gnso-chairs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org>> Cc: "gac-leadership@icann.org<mailto:gac-leadership@icann.org>" <gac-leadership@icann.org<mailto:gac-leadership@icann.org>>, Jeff Neuman <jeff@jjnsolutions.com<mailto:jeff@jjnsolutions.com>> Subject: [gnso-chairs] GAC Chair Letter to GNSO Chair - GGP Applicant Support Dear GNSO Chair and GNSO Council Vice Chairs, On behalf of the GAC Chair, Manal Ismail, please find attached a response to the GNSO Council letter [gac.icann.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/gac.icann.org/advice/correspondence/incoming/20220901/call-for-volunteers-gnso-guidance-process-ggp-initiation-request-for-applicant-support__;!!PtGJab4!8Evcx1f7TXo9VidH5CRoIiCGL5ZawLsfBRoS3ckwEw9u7sosazgJrhRMiGGjkIaQMQmo9SZchmWLsav_dStSjaoEnt3qZQg$> submitted to the GAC Chair on 1 September 2022 relative to the GGP on Applicant Support. 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