Marie
What discussions?
The ePDP is not having any more meetings. The marathon meeting yesterday was the last one and the final report was sent to Council yesterday.
Any issues that were not resolved by the end of the meeting and updated version of the report are not going to be resolved.
So I honestly do not understand this position.
Regards
Michele
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From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Marie Pattullo <marie.pattullo@aim.be>
Date: Thursday 21 February 2019 at 10:33
To: Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.com>, Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br>
Cc: "council@gnso.icann.org" <council@gnso.icann.org>
Subject: Re: [council] Vote deferral requested
Dear all,
Many thanks for the responses. We very much appreciate the extraordinary engagement of all who have worked so tirelessly to bring us
to this point.
As Keith clearly (and rightly) stresses below, it is not for Council to re-litigate the work of that Team. This is why we believe that
the current discussions must be allowed to continue, and the few extra days between now and 4th March could be critical. We refer you to the minority statement that the BC has co-issued with the IPC, which shows how very far we have come and why
we are hopeful that allowing these intense (and good faith) discussions to continue would be of long-term benefit to the entire community.
Best
Scott & Marie
From: Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 3:43 AM
To: Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br>
Cc: Marie Pattullo <marie.pattullo@aim.be>; council@gnso.icann.org
Subject: Re: [council] Vote deferral requested
The NCSG is ready to vote on this motion tomorrow, and we are not requesting a vote deferral. We have been working diligently and sincerely in the EPDP team towards achieving a consensus outcome and, with the publication of the phase one
final report today, we are ready to cast our votes on the motion that has been proposed.
As the NCSG has stated in our 18 February 2019 comments to the EPDP team, there are areas where we have withheld our objections out of our genuine desire to reach a new consensus policy. Personally, I would like to see others do the same.
Best wishes,
Ayden Férdeline
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On Thursday, February 21, 2019 3:18 AM, Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br> wrote:
Marie,
Would BC, and possibly other C's or SGs that intend to request a deferral, consider requesting a deferral only on the votes of the recommendations with EPDP divergence ? For completeness, this would mean voting on Purposes 1-7, Recommendations 3-15 and 17-29, but not on recommendations 2 and 16. Or any slicing of the report that includes those two recommendations.
Note that I'm not making such request or suggesting others to do so, because I would prefer no deferral at all, but I believe this would allow some progress in this meeting and save valuable time to discuss the issues that seems to be polarizing within the community.
Also, this would need a few amendments to the motion, but it's soon even to suggest them. Just floating the idea to see if it helps.
Rubens
On 20 Feb 2019, at 18:37, Drazek, Keith via council <council@gnso.icann.org> wrote:
Hi Marie,
Thanks for your email. Your request for a deferral is noted, and we can discuss further during tomorrow’s meeting.
As a reminder to all Councilors, as the manager of the GNSO policy development process, our role is to vote on whether the process and procedures and charter were followed by the EPDP WG. It is not an opportunity to re-litigate discussions and decisions made by the EPDP WG itself. Any requests for deferral and voting should be considered in this important context.
Also, *if* there is a deferral to 4 March, there will be no further opportunity to defer Council’s vote on the motion; a vote will be required.
Regards,
Keith
From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> On Behalf Of Marie Pattullo
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 9:46 AM
To: Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com>; rafik.dammak@gmail.com
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [council] Vote deferral requested
Given that the situation is very fluid, with substantive issues still being considered, it would give us time to understand the new policy before we vote.
M
From: Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 2:34 PM
To: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@gmail.com>; Marie Pattullo <marie.pattullo@aim.be>
Subject: Re: [council] Vote deferral requested
So if the report is being finalised today what benefit is there in deferring the vote?
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From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday 20 February 2019 at 13:26
To: Marie Pattullo <marie.pattullo@aim.be>
Cc: "council@gnso.icann.org" <council@gnso.icann.org>
Subject: Re: [council] Vote deferral requested
Hi Marie,
I want to highlight that the EPDP Team planned on submitting the Final Report today and we are having our final call in few minutes.
In theory we can have a couple of additional days until the document deadline (22 Feb) for a extraordinary meeting in 4th March but the Council should have the report by tomorrow's meeting to be able to discuss and plan for its vote accordingly even if it takes place on 4 March.
Best,
Rafik
Le mer. 20 févr. 2019 à 22:09, Marie Pattullo <marie.pattullo@aim.be> a écrit :
Dear Keith,
On behalf of the BC, we would like to request that the Council vote on the Phase 1 EPDP Report be postponed until Monday 4th March so as to permit the continuation of the very practical ongoing discussion within the EPDP Team on the unresolved policy recommendations.
Thanks in advance,
Scott & Marie
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