Note a correction in my arithmetic: 8 of 15 members present is still greater than 50%. Chuck Gomes "This message is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any unauthorized use, distribution, or disclosure is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify sender immediately and destroy/delete the original transmission."
-----Original Message----- From: Gomes, Chuck Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 4:59 PM To: 'Mawaki Chango'; GNSO.SECRETARIAT@GNSO.ICANN.ORG; Council GNSO Subject: RE: [council] GNSO Council teleconference MP3 recording 24 May 2007
Note that Annex A of the Bylaws, Section 1.a says, "Council Initiation. The GNSO Council may initiate the PDP by a vote of at least twenty-five percent (25%) of the members of the Council present at any meeting in which a motion to initiate the PDP is made." I personally think the wording here is a little misleading when taken in context with later wording in 3.b that says, "Issue Raised by Other than by the Board. If a policy issue is presented to the Council for consideration via an Issue Report, then the Council shall meet within fifteen (15) calendar days after receipt of such Report to vote on whether to initiate the PDP. . ." It seems to me that better wording for 1.a would be "Council Initiation. The GNSO Council may REQUEST AN ISSUES REPORT by a vote of at least twenty-five percent (25%) of the members of the Council present at any meeting in which a motion to initiate the PDP is made."
Regardless of the wording of 1.a, note that 25% of "the members of the Council present at any meeting" is an even easier threshhold. Using your count of members present, eight members supporting the motion out of 14 members present represents over 50% of members present.
Chuck Gomes
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-----Original Message----- From: Mawaki Chango [mailto:ki_chango@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 4:36 PM To: Gomes, Chuck; GNSO.SECRETARIAT@GNSO.ICANN.ORG; Council GNSO Subject: RE: [council] GNSO Council teleconference MP3 recording 24 May 2007
Apparently, you mean 25% of the whole council, not of those voting. Subject to confirmation, there were still more than 25% on the call who did not vote YES (6 No and 1 Abstention.)
My point is, even if the percentage count is against the size of the whole council, you may still have 25% or more voting for one position, and similarly 25% or more voting in the other direction. How does one deal with that if the only requirement is to reach 25% for a decision to be made? Is there any consideration about the significance of count difference? For example if 8 voted YES and 9 voted NO: both are beyond 25% and the difference is one vote - would NO simply be the outcome?
Thanks, Mawaki
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Note Mawaki that even if your count is correct, the motion would still pass because only 25% is needed, which I believe would be 7 (25% of 27 = 6.75).
Chuck Gomes
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-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Mawaki Chango Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 4:05 PM To: GNSO.SECRETARIAT@GNSO.ICANN.ORG; 'Council GNSO' Subject: Re: [council] GNSO Council teleconference MP3 recording 24 May 2007
Council,
My apologies I was finally not available to make it to today
teleconf as I had expected.
I just listened to the MP3. Regarding the item 5 (see below), my count of the votes does not match the one you announced on the call, Bruce, i.e. "10 votes in favor". I have counted 8 YES (Bruce, Philip, Kristina, Mike, Ross, Alistair, Tony, and Greg), 6 NO (Avri, Robin, Norbert, Sophia, Chuck, and Edmond), and 1 Abstention (Thomas).
So I'd request that the correct results be confirmed (after double-checking), and if relevant, the subsequent request of
an issue report on IGO names be reconsidered. Thanks,
Mawaki
Item 5: Motion to request issues report on protecting IGO names and abbreviations
Whereas, the GNSO Council recognizes the recommendation put forward by the IPC Constituency regarding possible measures in line with WIPO-2 to protect International Intergovernmental Organizations (IGO) names and abbreviations as domain names.
Whereas, the GNSO Council notes that measures to protect IGO
names and abbreviations are requested in the GAC principles for New gTLDs.
Whereas, the GNSO Council notes that WIPO is the maintenance
agency for the authoritative list of relevant IGO names and abbreviations protected under Article 6ter of the Paris Convention (http://www.wipo.int/article6ter/en/ ).
The GNSO Council requests that the staff produce an issues report on the policy issues associated with adequately handling disputes relating to IGO names and abbreviations as
domain names.
The GNSO Council also requests that the staff liaise with WIPO to utilize its knowledge and experience of WIPO-2.
Bruce,
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Please find the MP3 recording of the GNSO Council teleconference, held on 24 May 2007 at:
http://gnso-audio.icann.org/GNSO-Council-20070524.mp3 http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#may
Happy listening!
Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat - ICANN gnso.secretariat[at]gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org