Re: DOODLE / GNSO Council Restructuring drafting team / next call
I¹m taking this to the Council list because, although Adrian responded to a restructuring DT message, he makes a point which I feel we absolutely must address. I fully understand his reluctance to participate in calls in the middle of the night (Australian time). Our duties as GNSO Councillors already take up a huge amount of time and effort which detracts us from our ³normal² working lives and I don¹t think anyone can be expected to stay up for meetings during at nights or the wee hours of the morning. This is obviously a bigger problem for Asia Pac reps as our meeting times are manageable for Europe or the USA. But it is a problem for the Council as a whole nonetheless, as these are Councillors which are often unable to carry out their duties as much as they would like. I don¹t have a solution to this oft discussed problem, but I just wanted to add my voice of support to Adrian and Councillors who find themselves in the same bind - as long as this support doesn¹t lead to meetings being scheduled at times which are convenient to them but not to us of course ;-) Stéphane Le 18/08/09 03:19, « Adrian Kinderis » <adrian@ausregistry.com.au> a écrit :
I have completed the Doodle (but I am not sure why I bother).
For the record, whilst I am of course interested in participating (and it is my duty as a Councillor) I will continually reject meeting times that impact my ability to perform my work at 100% (i.e. I will not participate in any calls between 11pm and 6am local time).
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From: owner-ntfy-gnso-restruc-dt@icann.org [mailto:owner-ntfy-gnso-restruc-dt@icann.org] On Behalf Of Gisella Gruber-White Sent: Tuesday, 18 August 2009 9:56 AM To: ntfy-gnso-restruc-dt@icann.org Cc: GNSO Secretariat; Gisella Gruber-White Subject: DOODLE / GNSO Council Restructuring drafting team / next call
Dear All,
In order to schedule the next GNSO Council Restructuring drafting team, please complete the attached Doodle poll.
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We will confirm the date and time once everyone has completed this.
The poll will close on Wednesday at 1200 UTC.
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The issue raised by Adrian and commented on by Stephane is not new. To my mind the best solution is division of responsibilities. The only meeting where we should all be present is Council - all others are optional. It should be sufficient to have a colleague representing an interest on other groups. This may mean we have to consider a move from always a global optimal time to a regional optimal time for certain issues. Another approach is to be more efficient, talk less, act more and have less meetings. Philip
Splitting up responsibilities is a good solution. However, in practical terms it does mean that the same people (ie those in the ³right² geographical regions) tend to end up doing the work. That is unless meetings are scheduled, not only based on their contents, but also on the time zones of their participants. What I mean is that we could for example alternate meeting schedules for DTs and WGs where one week is Europe/USA time and the next is Asia Pac... Stéphane Le 18/08/09 12:00, « Philip Sheppard » <philip.sheppard@aim.be> a écrit :
The issue raised by Adrian and commented on by Stephane is not new. To my mind the best solution is division of responsibilities.
The only meeting where we should all be present is Council - all others are optional. It should be sufficient to have a colleague representing an interest on other groups. This may mean we have to consider a move from always a global optimal time to a regional optimal time for certain issues.
Another approach is to be more efficient, talk less, act more and have less meetings.
Philip
Stephane, indeed exactly my proposal. Though I favour my second one more ! Philip
I think that Philip's suggestions of 'division of responsibilities' and 'regional optimal times' instead of 'global optimal times' could be keys to finding a solution. Chuck ________________________________ From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sheppard Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 6:00 AM To: 'Council GNSO' Subject: [council] Working in the wee small hours The issue raised by Adrian and commented on by Stephane is not new. To my mind the best solution is division of responsibilities. The only meeting where we should all be present is Council - all others are optional. It should be sufficient to have a colleague representing an interest on other groups. This may mean we have to consider a move from always a global optimal time to a regional optimal time for certain issues. Another approach is to be more efficient, talk less, act more and have less meetings. Philip
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