RE: [council] Regarding terms of Council members
As most of you remember, I was elected at the end of 2005 for a two year term. According to the IPC bylaws I could serve two terms. I am actutely aware of the complexity of the issues and the time needed to get sufficiently up to speed to play an active role, despite the excellent support from ICANN staff. I certainly see the benefit of having councillors on board who have completeted their first term and see no downside in councillors serving multiple terms, provided they present the positions of their constituency based on appropriate consultation. Ute -----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Keller Sent: 18 September 2006 10:17 To: Bruce Tonkin Cc: Council GNSO Subject: Re: [council] Regarding terms of Council members Hello all, to follow the lead of our chair. I was appointed to the GNSO Council in 2003 as a substitute for Philip Grabensee. I was elected for another term in 2004. This term ends in 2006. Due to our constituency bylaws I'm able to serve two consecutive terms. Since there is no specification in the registrar constituency bylaws and the ICANN bylaws state that not full served terms are not to be counted as terms I would be eligible for another term. In general I want to note that I do not really have any hard feelings either into the direction of restricting the number of terms nor into leaving it totally open. The two points I think that are very important under both options are a. it is the same for all constituencies b. The modus and its outcome is transparent. Best, tom Am 18.09.2006 schrieb Bruce Tonkin:
Hello Avri,
When considering terms, there is also the question of whether you take into account the previous DNSO structure. The archives are available at:
Note on my personal opinions on the the issue: I am not in general in favor of strict term limits, but i am in favor of transparency that allows all to know how long someone has been in place.
That is a good idea.
For reference - I joined the DNSO Names Council in Jan 2002.
I was elected chair of the DNSO Names Council on 29 August 2002.
Philip Sheppard, Marilyn Cade, Greg Ruth, Tony Harris, Tony Holmes,
Ken
Stubbs, and Cary Karp were all on the Council at that time. E.g see the minutes at:
http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/20020829.NCteleconf-minutes.html
I have been a member and chair of the GNSO Council since it was formed in 2003.
So I guess I have been the chair for the past 4 years.
Under the registrar constituency rules, I am serving my last term on the Council as a representative of the registrars constituency. My term finishes at the AGM in 2007.
Regards, Bruce Tonkin
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I was first elected to represent my constituency with the GNSO Council in 2003 and re-elected for a second term in 2005. My final term with the council expires at the end of the AGM in 2007 at which point I will be ineligible to stand again under the registrar constituency bylaws. I was not a councillor on the prior DNSO Council. Term limits, imho, are an important feature of democratic processes. I believe that the term related rules laid out by the registrar constituency (two two-year terms) are a decent and fair model for the GNSO to adopt as standard process for all council members. Ute Decker wrote:
As most of you remember, I was elected at the end of 2005 for a two year term. According to the IPC bylaws I could serve two terms.
I am actutely aware of the complexity of the issues and the time needed to get sufficiently up to speed to play an active role, despite the excellent support from ICANN staff. I certainly see the benefit of having councillors on board who have completeted their first term and see no downside in councillors serving multiple terms, provided they present the positions of their constituency based on appropriate consultation.
Ute
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Keller Sent: 18 September 2006 10:17 To: Bruce Tonkin Cc: Council GNSO Subject: Re: [council] Regarding terms of Council members
Hello all,
to follow the lead of our chair.
I was appointed to the GNSO Council in 2003 as a substitute for Philip Grabensee. I was elected for another term in 2004. This term ends in 2006.
Due to our constituency bylaws I'm able to serve two consecutive terms. Since there is no specification in the registrar constituency bylaws and the ICANN bylaws state that not full served terms are not to be counted as terms I would be eligible for another term.
In general I want to note that I do not really have any hard feelings either into the direction of restricting the number of terms nor into leaving it totally open. The two points I think that are very important under both options are
a. it is the same for all constituencies b. The modus and its outcome is transparent.
Best,
tom
Am 18.09.2006 schrieb Bruce Tonkin:
Hello Avri,
When considering terms, there is also the question of whether you take into account the previous DNSO structure. The archives are available at:
Note on my personal opinions on the the issue: I am not in general in favor of strict term limits, but i am in favor of transparency that allows all to know how long someone has been in place.
That is a good idea.
For reference - I joined the DNSO Names Council in Jan 2002.
I was elected chair of the DNSO Names Council on 29 August 2002.
Philip Sheppard, Marilyn Cade, Greg Ruth, Tony Harris, Tony Holmes,
Ken
Stubbs, and Cary Karp were all on the Council at that time. E.g see the minutes at:
http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/20020829.NCteleconf-minutes.html
I have been a member and chair of the GNSO Council since it was formed in 2003.
So I guess I have been the chair for the past 4 years.
Under the registrar constituency rules, I am serving my last term on the Council as a representative of the registrars constituency. My term finishes at the AGM in 2007.
Regards, Bruce Tonkin
Gruss,
tom
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I agree with term limits in this situation. NCUC's bylaws include term limits of 2 two-year terms for serving on Council. I would be willing to increase this to 3 two-year terms -- because it does so long to get up speed on council work. But I think the most important point is standardization across all constituencies regarding term limits (i.e., all constituencies should have the 2-3 term limit). Robin Ross Rader wrote:
I was first elected to represent my constituency with the GNSO Council in 2003 and re-elected for a second term in 2005. My final term with the council expires at the end of the AGM in 2007 at which point I will be ineligible to stand again under the registrar constituency bylaws. I was not a councillor on the prior DNSO Council.
Term limits, imho, are an important feature of democratic processes. I believe that the term related rules laid out by the registrar constituency (two two-year terms) are a decent and fair model for the GNSO to adopt as standard process for all council members.
Ute Decker wrote:
As most of you remember, I was elected at the end of 2005 for a two year term. According to the IPC bylaws I could serve two terms. I am actutely aware of the complexity of the issues and the time needed to get sufficiently up to speed to play an active role, despite the excellent support from ICANN staff. I certainly see the benefit of having councillors on board who have completeted their first term and see no downside in councillors serving multiple terms, provided they present the positions of their constituency based on appropriate consultation. Ute
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Keller Sent: 18 September 2006 10:17 To: Bruce Tonkin Cc: Council GNSO Subject: Re: [council] Regarding terms of Council members
Hello all,
to follow the lead of our chair.
I was appointed to the GNSO Council in 2003 as a substitute for Philip Grabensee. I was elected for another term in 2004. This term ends in 2006.
Due to our constituency bylaws I'm able to serve two consecutive terms. Since there is no specification in the registrar constituency bylaws and the ICANN bylaws state that not full served terms are not to be counted as terms I would be eligible for another term.
In general I want to note that I do not really have any hard feelings either into the direction of restricting the number of terms nor into leaving it totally open. The two points I think that are very important under both options are
a. it is the same for all constituencies b. The modus and its outcome is transparent.
Best,
tom
Am 18.09.2006 schrieb Bruce Tonkin:
Hello Avri,
When considering terms, there is also the question of whether you take into account the previous DNSO structure. The archives are available at:
Note on my personal opinions on the the issue: I am not in general in favor of strict term limits, but i am in favor of transparency that allows all to know how long someone has been in place.
That is a good idea.
For reference - I joined the DNSO Names Council in Jan 2002.
I was elected chair of the DNSO Names Council on 29 August 2002. Philip Sheppard, Marilyn Cade, Greg Ruth, Tony Harris, Tony Holmes,
Ken
Stubbs, and Cary Karp were all on the Council at that time. E.g see
the
minutes at:
http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/20020829.NCteleconf-minutes.html
I have been a member and chair of the GNSO Council since it was formed in 2003.
So I guess I have been the chair for the past 4 years.
Under the registrar constituency rules, I am serving my last term on
the
Council as a representative of the registrars constituency. My term finishes at the AGM in 2007.
Regards, Bruce Tonkin
Gruss,
tom
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Regards,
Hi, i never expected council members to write in giving their start of term date, i was thinking of it more as something that could be added to the web page. but I appreciate it and figure i should follow the leader. i was first added to the council as a nomcom replacement appointee in July 2005. i am now in a 2 year nomcom appointed term that ends after the annual meeting in 2007. i have no idea whether nomcom has a rule on term limits, but i can't imagine they would renew someone more then once. thanks, a.
Following in the same fashion, I am the ALAC appointee to the liaison position to the GNSO. I started service at the end of beginning of 2005, and I will step down from the position at the end of the annual meeting in December of this year. Bret On 9/18/06 1:39 PM, "Avri Doria" <avri@acm.org> wrote:
Hi,
i never expected council members to write in giving their start of term date, i was thinking of it more as something that could be added to the web page. but I appreciate it and figure i should follow the leader.
i was first added to the council as a nomcom replacement appointee in July 2005. i am now in a 2 year nomcom appointed term that ends after the annual meeting in 2007. i have no idea whether nomcom has a rule on term limits, but i can't imagine they would renew someone more then once.
thanks,
a.
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Avri Doria -
Bret Fausett -
Robin Gross -
Ross Rader -
Ute Decker