Ad promotion of Call for Papers on new gTLDs
Dear all, FYI - in order to promote the Call for Papers to an audience beyond the faithful readers of the ICANN website, we are placing ads in international press, due to be published on Friday this week. Very best regards Olof
in order to promote the Call for Papers to an audience beyond the faithful readers of the ICANN website, we are placing ads in international press, due to be published on Friday this week.
At least in the academic frame of reference (is there any other where papers are an established production format?) the incentive to respond to a formal call for papers depends directly on the attractiveness of the publication venue. Being read aloud during a telephone conference with a dozen or so participants is probably not going to be regarded as a sufficiently compelling mode of presentation by many people lacking prior familiarity with the GNSO Council and the way ICANN does things. At the very least, I hope you are advertising the fact that a lasting audio record of the meeting at which the things will be read will be made public. It isn't clear to me on the basis of the previous description of this action that it is your intention for the authors to read their own papers. It might also be a good idea not to leave any margin for misinterpretation of this in the ads. /Cary
I don't think we ever agreed that someone would read a paper, similar to an academic conference. We were clear that we would provide opportunities for summary presentations/discussions of contributions on some basis. But I would expect us to get some contributions that aren't suitable for the two two hour forums, but still valid and useful contributions to be read. For instance, if we got a doctoral thesis as a contribution -- DON'T Laugh, could happen--that is not a suitable presentation format for the conference calls we are planning. We asked for respondents to address the questions in the ToR, so hopefully, that will be the majority of contributions. And, just to comment on your question, Cary -- in the ITU, and other intergovernmental for a, and in many industry forums, we often request the contribution of papers on a topic. Next Generation Networks comes to mind, for one. Wireless, for another. The online privacy and spam conferences I've helped to organize in the past often requested positions or papers ahead of time... However, I think we committed to real time transcription of the discussions, not merely an audio record. I assume that means that we'll have both MP3, and the transcription, which is very useful for non native English speakers. Regards, Marilyn -----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Cary Karp Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 10:11 AM To: Olof Nordling Cc: 'GNSO Council' Subject: Re: [council] Ad promotion of Call for Papers on new gTLDs
in order to promote the Call for Papers to an audience beyond the
faithful readers of the ICANN website, we are placing ads in international
press, due to be published on Friday this week.
At least in the academic frame of reference (is there any other where papers are an established production format?) the incentive to respond to a formal call for papers depends directly on the attractiveness of the publication venue. Being read aloud during a telephone conference with a dozen or so participants is probably not going to be regarded as a sufficiently compelling mode of presentation by many people lacking prior familiarity with the GNSO Council and the way ICANN does things. At the very least, I hope you are advertising the fact that a lasting audio record of the meeting at which the things will be read will be made public. It isn't clear to me on the basis of the previous description of this action that it is your intention for the authors to read their own papers. It might also be a good idea not to leave any margin for misinterpretation of this in the ads. /Cary
I don't think we ever agreed that someone would read a paper, similar to an academic conference. We were clear that we would provide opportunities for summary presentations/discussions of contributions on some basis.
The call as posted on the ICANN site says: "Received papers will be considered for oral presentations to the GNSO Council during February 2006, via scheduled conference calls with the GNSO Council." If the oral presentations are only to be summary descriptions of the papers and nothing is said about any other mode of publication, why would anyone undertake the time and effort of preparing a "substantive paper"? Any chance of the Council seeing the ad copy before we commit to it? /Cary
The call can be modified to say that all contributions will be posted to the public forum as well. -----Original Message----- From: Cary Karp [mailto:ck@nic.museum] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 2:44 PM To: 'GNSO Council' Cc: Marilyn Cade; 'Olof Nordling' Subject: RE: [council] Ad promotion of Call for Papers on new gTLDs
I don't think we ever agreed that someone would read a paper, similar to an academic conference. We were clear that we would provide opportunities for summary presentations/discussions of contributions on some basis.
The call as posted on the ICANN site says: "Received papers will be considered for oral presentations to the GNSO Council during February 2006, via scheduled conference calls with the GNSO Council." If the oral presentations are only to be summary descriptions of the papers and nothing is said about any other mode of publication, why would anyone undertake the time and effort of preparing a "substantive paper"? Any chance of the Council seeing the ad copy before we commit to it? /Cary
By the way, we can all read, so I certainly hope that we are not asking anyone to read to us. Time should be set aside for questions and answers, but as Council members, I expect we'll all do our homework and read the submissions in advance of the live sessions.
"Received papers will be considered for oral presentations to the GNSO Council during February 2006, via scheduled conference calls with the GNSO Council."
:-) -----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Bret Fausett Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 5:25 PM To: GNSO Council Subject: Re: [council] Ad promotion of Call for Papers on new gTLDs By the way, we can all read, so I certainly hope that we are not asking anyone to read to us. Time should be set aside for questions and answers, but as Council members, I expect we'll all do our homework and read the submissions in advance of the live sessions.
"Received papers will be considered for oral presentations to the GNSO Council during February 2006, via scheduled conference calls with the GNSO Council."
This was my presumption about what we had talked about. A short overview of the points and a Q&A. a. On 10 jan 2006, at 17.24, Bret Fausett wrote:
By the way, we can all read, so I certainly hope that we are not asking anyone to read to us. Time should be set aside for questions and answers, but as Council members, I expect we'll all do our homework and read the submissions in advance of the live sessions.
"Received papers will be considered for oral presentations to the GNSO Council during February 2006, via scheduled conference calls with the GNSO Council."
Dear Cary, Apologies for not responding quicker to your question - it's been pretty hectic meeting various material and payment deadlines the last couple of days. Anyway, as I'm sure you have realized, the ads are now firmly with the respective publications and I trust you and others will find them a useful addition to our efforts of soliciting valuable input. Best regards Olof -----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Cary Karp Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 8:44 PM To: 'GNSO Council' Cc: Marilyn Cade; 'Olof Nordling' Subject: RE: [council] Ad promotion of Call for Papers on new gTLDs
I don't think we ever agreed that someone would read a paper, similar to an academic conference. We were clear that we would provide opportunities for summary presentations/discussions of contributions on some basis.
The call as posted on the ICANN site says: "Received papers will be considered for oral presentations to the GNSO Council during February 2006, via scheduled conference calls with the GNSO Council." If the oral presentations are only to be summary descriptions of the papers and nothing is said about any other mode of publication, why would anyone undertake the time and effort of preparing a "substantive paper"? Any chance of the Council seeing the ad copy before we commit to it? /Cary
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Avri Doria -
Bret Fausett -
Cary Karp -
Marilyn Cade -
Olof Nordling