
All, Here is a placeholder motion for the work of the Small Team + on this issue: Motion - SubPro Supp Rec Singular/Plural - Google Docs<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ynihMgb5yrdf4agtbqtP9x77LX73q6_Mxj1tzZD4...> We have a team deadline of this Friday at end of business to get a final version complete (or not, if we can't get there). I will get that turned around to Council ASAP so that we all have as much time as possible to consider it before next Thursday. Hopefully, that all goes timely and well and we can put this in the rearview mirror on Thursday. If not, we may need to have this be a discussion on Thursday and a prompt email vote thereafter. We'll see. I'm submitting it this was in order to maximize optionality. By copy of this email, I am asking Staff to amend this item from a Discussion to a Vote, because I am a diehard optimist. Thanks all! Stay tuned. Best, Paul [cid:image001.jpg@01DAE1D5.566898B0] Paul McGrady Partner Elster & McGrady 3847 N. Lincoln Avenue Second Floor Chicago, IL 60613 Office Direct: +1 (312) 515-4422 paul@elstermcgrady.com<mailto:paul@elstermcgrady.com> www.elstermcgrady.com<http://www.elstermcgrady.com/> Download Contact Information and Read Bio<https://linqapp.com/paul_mcgrady?r=link>

Hi Paul, We confirm receipt. This will be added on the motions wiki page shortly: https://community.icann.org/x/_oBsFQ All the best, Terri From: Paul McGrady <paul@elstermcgrady.com> Date: Monday, July 29, 2024 at 4:36 PM To: "GNOS Council Mailing List (council@gnso.icann.org)" <council@gnso.icann.org> Cc: GNSO-Secs <gnso-secs@icann.org> Subject: Singulars / Plurals All, Here is a placeholder motion for the work of the Small Team + on this issue: Motion - SubPro Supp Rec Singular/Plural - Google Docs<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ynihMgb5yrdf4agtbqtP9x77LX73q6_Mxj1tzZD4...> We have a team deadline of this Friday at end of business to get a final version complete (or not, if we can’t get there). I will get that turned around to Council ASAP so that we all have as much time as possible to consider it before next Thursday. Hopefully, that all goes timely and well and we can put this in the rearview mirror on Thursday. If not, we may need to have this be a discussion on Thursday and a prompt email vote thereafter. We’ll see. I’m submitting it this was in order to maximize optionality. By copy of this email, I am asking Staff to amend this item from a Discussion to a Vote, because I am a diehard optimist. Thanks all! Stay tuned. Best, Paul [cid:image001.jpg@01DAE1E0.8FE75F80] Paul McGrady Partner Elster & McGrady 3847 N. Lincoln Avenue Second Floor Chicago, IL 60613 Office Direct: +1 (312) 515-4422 paul@elstermcgrady.com<mailto:paul@elstermcgrady.com> www.elstermcgrady.com<http://www.elstermcgrady.com/> Download Contact Information and Read Bio<https://linqapp.com/paul_mcgrady?r=link>

Thanks for sharing, Paul. I like the optimism, however, in my opinion, I think there is benefit for the wider council to discuss the final proposal from the small team+ before voting on it. Considering how heated this particular topic has been in the small team+, it'll be good for the council to also know whether the recommendations enjoy the full consensus of the small team or otherwise and if not, what level of consensus was achieved as required by the updated Small team Assignment form. Warmly, Tomslin On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 at 07:36, Paul McGrady via council <council@icann.org> wrote:
All,
Here is a placeholder motion for the work of the Small Team + on this issue: Motion - SubPro Supp Rec Singular/Plural - Google Docs <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ynihMgb5yrdf4agtbqtP9x77LX73q6_Mxj1tzZD4...> We have a team deadline of this Friday at end of business to get a final version complete (or not, if we can’t get there). I will get that turned around to Council ASAP so that we all have as much time as possible to consider it before next Thursday. Hopefully, that all goes timely and well and we can put this in the rearview mirror on Thursday. If not, we may need to have this be a discussion on Thursday and a prompt email vote thereafter. We’ll see. I’m submitting it this was in order to maximize optionality.
By copy of this email, I am asking Staff to amend this item from a Discussion to a Vote, because I am a diehard optimist. Thanks all! Stay tuned.
Best,
Paul
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I am also of the view that we should have a discussion at our next meeting around the outcome(s) generated to inform the direction of a vote. Lawrence. Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ From: Tomslin Samme-Nlar via council <council@icann.org> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2024 12:47:02 AM To: Paul McGrady <paul@elstermcgrady.com> Cc: GNOS Council Mailing List (council@gnso.icann.org) <council@gnso.icann.org>; gnso-secs@icann.org <gnso-secs@icann.org> Subject: [council] Re: Singulars / Plurals Thanks for sharing, Paul. I like the optimism, however, in my opinion, I think there is benefit for the wider council to discuss the final proposal from the small team+ before voting on it. Considering how heated this particular topic has been in the small team+, it'll be good for the council to also know whether the recommendations enjoy the full consensus of the small team or otherwise and if not, what level of consensus was achieved as required by the updated Small team Assignment form. Warmly, Tomslin On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 at 07:36, Paul McGrady via council <council@icann.org<mailto:council@icann.org>> wrote: All, Here is a placeholder motion for the work of the Small Team + on this issue: Motion - SubPro Supp Rec Singular/Plural - Google Docs<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ynihMgb5yrdf4agtbqtP9x77LX73q6_Mxj1tzZD4...> We have a team deadline of this Friday at end of business to get a final version complete (or not, if we can’t get there). I will get that turned around to Council ASAP so that we all have as much time as possible to consider it before next Thursday. Hopefully, that all goes timely and well and we can put this in the rearview mirror on Thursday. If not, we may need to have this be a discussion on Thursday and a prompt email vote thereafter. We’ll see. I’m submitting it this was in order to maximize optionality. By copy of this email, I am asking Staff to amend this item from a Discussion to a Vote, because I am a diehard optimist. Thanks all! Stay tuned. Best, Paul [cid:ii_19100d408304ce8e91] Paul McGrady Partner Elster & McGrady 3847 N. Lincoln Avenue Second Floor Chicago, IL 60613 Office Direct: +1 (312) 515-4422 paul@elstermcgrady.com<mailto:paul@elstermcgrady.com> www.elstermcgrady.com<http://www.elstermcgrady.com/> Download Contact Information and Read Bio<https://linqapp.com/paul_mcgrady?r=link> _______________________________________________ council mailing list -- council@icann.org<mailto:council@icann.org> To unsubscribe send an email to council-leave@icann.org<mailto:council-leave@icann.org> _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

I agree with Tomslin and Lawrence. As the original ICANN proposal became more complicated through the small group work, discussion of it has intensified at he stakeholder group level. The stakeholder groups will need time to digest the proposal to decide whether to support it. Kurt On 29 Jul 2024, at 5:15 pm, Lawrence O. Olawale-Roberts via council <council@icann.org<mailto:council@icann.org>> wrote: I am also of the view that we should have a discussion at our next meeting around the outcome(s) generated to inform the direction of a vote. Lawrence. Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ From: Tomslin Samme-Nlar via council <council@icann.org<mailto:council@icann.org>> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2024 12:47:02 AM To: Paul McGrady <paul@elstermcgrady.com<mailto:paul@elstermcgrady.com>> Cc: GNOS Council Mailing List (council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>) <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>>; gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> <gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>> Subject: [council] Re: Singulars / Plurals Thanks for sharing, Paul. I like the optimism, however, in my opinion, I think there is benefit for the wider council to discuss the final proposal from the small team+ before voting on it. Considering how heated this particular topic has been in the small team+, it'll be good for the council to also know whether the recommendations enjoy the full consensus of the small team or otherwise and if not, what level of consensus was achieved as required by the updated Small team Assignment form. Warmly, Tomslin On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 at 07:36, Paul McGrady via council <council@icann.org<mailto:council@icann.org>> wrote: All, Here is a placeholder motion for the work of the Small Team + on this issue: Motion - SubPro Supp Rec Singular/Plural - Google Docs<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ynihMgb5yrdf4agtbqtP9x77LX73q6_Mxj1tzZD4...> We have a team deadline of this Friday at end of business to get a final version complete (or not, if we can’t get there). I will get that turned around to Council ASAP so that we all have as much time as possible to consider it before next Thursday. Hopefully, that all goes timely and well and we can put this in the rearview mirror on Thursday. If not, we may need to have this be a discussion on Thursday and a prompt email vote thereafter. We’ll see. I’m submitting it this was in order to maximize optionality. By copy of this email, I am asking Staff to amend this item from a Discussion to a Vote, because I am a diehard optimist. Thanks all! Stay tuned. Best, Paul <image001.jpg> Paul McGrady Partner Elster & McGrady 3847 N. Lincoln Avenue Second Floor Chicago, IL 60613 Office Direct: +1 (312) 515-4422 paul@elstermcgrady.com<mailto:paul@elstermcgrady.com> www.elstermcgrady.com<http://www.elstermcgrady.com/> Download Contact Information and Read Bio<https://linqapp.com/paul_mcgrady?r=link> _______________________________________________ council mailing list -- council@icann.org<mailto:council@icann.org> To unsubscribe send an email to council-leave@icann.org<mailto:council-leave@icann.org> _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ council mailing list -- council@icann.org<mailto:council@icann.org> To unsubscribe send an email to council-leave@icann.org<mailto:council-leave@icann.org> _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

Thanks all. Given the feedback below, we will keep this topic as a discussion item and not vote on the issue at our August meeting. However, if the discussion yields consensus, I think we should consider an electronic vote prior to our September meeting given the time-sensitive nature of this recommendation. There is a big gap between our August and September meetings (8 August to 19 September) and I would to avoid any unnecessary delays. Thanks, Greg From: kurt kjpritz.com via council <council@icann.org> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2024 5:22 PM To: Lawrence O. Olawale-Roberts <lawrence@microboss.org> Cc: GNOS Council Mailing List (council@gnso.icann.org) <council@gnso.icann.org>; gnso-secs@icann.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] [council] Re: Singulars / Plurals CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and know the content is safe. I agree with Tomslin and Lawrence. As the original ICANN proposal became more complicated through the small group work, discussion of it has intensified at he stakeholder group level. The stakeholder groups will need time to digest the proposal to decide whether to support it. Kurt On 29 Jul 2024, at 5:15 pm, Lawrence O. Olawale-Roberts via council <council@icann.org<mailto:council@icann.org>> wrote: I am also of the view that we should have a discussion at our next meeting around the outcome(s) generated to inform the direction of a vote. Lawrence. Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ From: Tomslin Samme-Nlar via council <council@icann.org<mailto:council@icann.org>> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2024 12:47:02 AM To: Paul McGrady <paul@elstermcgrady.com<mailto:paul@elstermcgrady.com>> Cc: GNOS Council Mailing List (council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>) <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>>; gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> <gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>> Subject: [council] Re: Singulars / Plurals Thanks for sharing, Paul. I like the optimism, however, in my opinion, I think there is benefit for the wider council to discuss the final proposal from the small team+ before voting on it. Considering how heated this particular topic has been in the small team+, it'll be good for the council to also know whether the recommendations enjoy the full consensus of the small team or otherwise and if not, what level of consensus was achieved as required by the updated Small team Assignment form. Warmly, Tomslin On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 at 07:36, Paul McGrady via council <council@icann.org<mailto:council@icann.org>> wrote: All, Here is a placeholder motion for the work of the Small Team + on this issue: Motion - SubPro Supp Rec Singular/Plural - Google Docs<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ynihMgb5yrdf4agtbqtP9x77LX73q6_Mxj1tzZD4...> We have a team deadline of this Friday at end of business to get a final version complete (or not, if we can’t get there). I will get that turned around to Council ASAP so that we all have as much time as possible to consider it before next Thursday. Hopefully, that all goes timely and well and we can put this in the rearview mirror on Thursday. If not, we may need to have this be a discussion on Thursday and a prompt email vote thereafter. We’ll see. I’m submitting it this was in order to maximize optionality. By copy of this email, I am asking Staff to amend this item from a Discussion to a Vote, because I am a diehard optimist. Thanks all! Stay tuned. Best, Paul <image001.jpg> Paul McGrady Partner Elster & McGrady 3847 N. Lincoln Avenue Second Floor Chicago, IL 60613 Office Direct: +1 (312) 515-4422 paul@elstermcgrady.com<mailto:paul@elstermcgrady.com> www.elstermcgrady.com<http://www.elstermcgrady.com/> Download Contact Information and Read Bio<https://linqapp.com/paul_mcgrady?r=link> _______________________________________________ council mailing list -- council@icann.org<mailto:council@icann.org> To unsubscribe send an email to council-leave@icann.org<mailto:council-leave@icann.org> _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ council mailing list -- council@icann.org<mailto:council@icann.org> To unsubscribe send an email to council-leave@icann.org<mailto:council-leave@icann.org> _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

Thanks Greg, we will remove the motion from the motions wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/_oBsFQ All the best, Terri From: "DiBiase, Gregory" <dibiase@amazon.com> Date: Wednesday, July 31, 2024 at 8:08 AM To: "kurt kjpritz.com" <kurt@kjpritz.com>, "lawrence@microboss.org" <lawrence@microboss.org> Cc: "GNOS Council Mailing List (council@gnso.icann.org)" <council@gnso.icann.org>, GNSO-Secs <gnso-secs@icann.org> Subject: RE: [council] Re: Singulars / Plurals Thanks all. Given the feedback below, we will keep this topic as a discussion item and not vote on the issue at our August meeting. However, if the discussion yields consensus, I think we should consider an electronic vote prior to our September meeting given the time-sensitive nature of this recommendation. There is a big gap between our August and September meetings (8 August to 19 September) and I would to avoid any unnecessary delays. Thanks, Greg From: kurt kjpritz.com via council <council@icann.org> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2024 5:22 PM To: Lawrence O. Olawale-Roberts <lawrence@microboss.org> Cc: GNOS Council Mailing List (council@gnso.icann.org) <council@gnso.icann.org>; gnso-secs@icann.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] [council] Re: Singulars / Plurals CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and know the content is safe. I agree with Tomslin and Lawrence. As the original ICANN proposal became more complicated through the small group work, discussion of it has intensified at he stakeholder group level. The stakeholder groups will need time to digest the proposal to decide whether to support it. Kurt On 29 Jul 2024, at 5:15 pm, Lawrence O. Olawale-Roberts via council <council@icann.org<mailto:council@icann.org>> wrote: I am also of the view that we should have a discussion at our next meeting around the outcome(s) generated to inform the direction of a vote. Lawrence. Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ From: Tomslin Samme-Nlar via council <council@icann.org<mailto:council@icann.org>> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2024 12:47:02 AM To: Paul McGrady <paul@elstermcgrady.com<mailto:paul@elstermcgrady.com>> Cc: GNOS Council Mailing List (council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>) <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>>; gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> <gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>> Subject: [council] Re: Singulars / Plurals Thanks for sharing, Paul. I like the optimism, however, in my opinion, I think there is benefit for the wider council to discuss the final proposal from the small team+ before voting on it. Considering how heated this particular topic has been in the small team+, it'll be good for the council to also know whether the recommendations enjoy the full consensus of the small team or otherwise and if not, what level of consensus was achieved as required by the updated Small team Assignment form. Warmly, Tomslin On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 at 07:36, Paul McGrady via council <council@icann.org<mailto:council@icann.org>> wrote: All, Here is a placeholder motion for the work of the Small Team + on this issue: Motion - SubPro Supp Rec Singular/Plural - Google Docs<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ynihMgb5yrdf4agtbqtP9x77LX73q6_Mxj1tzZD4...> We have a team deadline of this Friday at end of business to get a final version complete (or not, if we can’t get there). I will get that turned around to Council ASAP so that we all have as much time as possible to consider it before next Thursday. Hopefully, that all goes timely and well and we can put this in the rearview mirror on Thursday. If not, we may need to have this be a discussion on Thursday and a prompt email vote thereafter. We’ll see. I’m submitting it this was in order to maximize optionality. By copy of this email, I am asking Staff to amend this item from a Discussion to a Vote, because I am a diehard optimist. Thanks all! Stay tuned. Best, Paul <image001.jpg> Paul McGrady Partner Elster & McGrady 3847 N. Lincoln Avenue Second Floor Chicago, IL 60613 Office Direct: +1 (312) 515-4422 paul@elstermcgrady.com<mailto:paul@elstermcgrady.com> www.elstermcgrady.com<http://www.elstermcgrady.com/> Download Contact Information and Read Bio<https://linqapp.com/paul_mcgrady?r=link> _______________________________________________ council mailing list -- council@icann.org<mailto:council@icann.org> To unsubscribe send an email to council-leave@icann.org<mailto:council-leave@icann.org> _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ council mailing list -- council@icann.org<mailto:council@icann.org> To unsubscribe send an email to council-leave@icann.org<mailto:council-leave@icann.org> _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
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DiBiase, Gregory
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kurt kjpritz.com
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Lawrence O. Olawale-Roberts
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Paul McGrady
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Terri Agnew
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Tomslin Samme-Nlar