Re: [council] RE: Taking the Council's Temperature on Procedures for Consideration of 3rd Accountability Proposal
Hi folks - Just a reminder that the 17 DEC GNSO Council meeting will have a slot on the agenda to discuss any high-level concerns/red flags raised by any SGs. This is not the last opportunity for individuals or SGs to weigh in on these recommendations. But we should have a clearer sense of whether or not there are any signifiant outstanding issues. And a reminder that we have planned two additional meeting times planned (14 JAN and 21 JAN) for the final review & vote to adopt the the report. It is my hope that all SG concerns will be raised/expressed by then, if not sooner. However, I should point out that due to external time constraints, we cannot entertain any requests for deferrals if the vote takes place in January. Thanks— J. From: <owner-council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org>> on behalf of Keith Drazek <kdrazek@verisign.com<mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com>> Date: Friday, December 4, 2015 at 11:40 To: Phil Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com<mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com>>, GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Subject: [council] RE: Taking the Council's Temperature on Procedures for Consideration of 3rd Accountability Proposal Thanks Phil. The RySG is working now to develop its comments and position statements on the CCWG Proposal. I expect they will be completed prior to our next call on December 17. Regards, Keith From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org> [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Phil Corwin Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 1:29 PM To: council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: [council] Taking the Council's Temperature on Procedures for Consideration of 3rd Accountability Proposal Fellow Councilors: This morning the BC held its regular members’ call, and we got into some discussion in regard to background information I had circulated prior to the call (below). However, there was insufficient participation to reach a BC consensus, and we shall continue the discussion on the BC email list. It was decided on the call that I would reach out to other Councilors to get an initial impression of whether we are aiming to discuss and vote on a Resolution of approval or disapproval in two weeks, on our call of December 17th, or whether we wish to bring that question to a vote on our first call of January 2016. If we are targeting the 17th then we have a great deal of work to do, including getting consensus feedback from those we represent and preparing a draft Resolution. If we are looking toward January then I would strongly suggest that we schedule that call for January 14th, and not the 21st which is only one day prior to the target delivery date to the Board. What are your views on this most important matter? Very best regards, Philip ******************************* BC members, please note that the second item in item #2, following Steve’s review of the Policy calendar, is: · Discussion of final Accountability proposal #3– Comments close December 21- procedure for BC input into CSG, and then GNSO, for Chartering Organization decision The third Accountability proposal was published on Monday, November 30 for a comment period closing on December 21. The target date for delivering the Proposal to the Board for its consideration is January 22, 2016. While public comment is being solicited, we are now at the stage where the primary objective is to get the Chartering Organizations to indicate whether they approve or disapprove of the Proposal – and, if they disapprove, what changes would be required for approval. The GNSO is the relevant Chartering organization for the BC. The next meeting of the GNSO Council is scheduled for December 17, two weeks from today and four days before the close of the public comment period. Susan and I will be looking to BC members to provide a consensus view of the proposal that we can convey to the rest of the CSG, as well as the NCSG and the full Council. The first meeting of the Council in 2016 will be held on either January 14 or 21. If Council does not approve a Resolution of approval or disapproval on December 17 then I think it is a sure bet that the next call will be on January 14, eight days prior to the scheduled Board delivery date. With all of that as background, the guidance your Councilors are looking for on today’s call is whether BC members believe they will be able to convey a consensus view on the proposal prior to the December 17 Council meeting, or whether we should be targeting January 14 for that Council decision. If you are planning to be on today’s call please be prepared to share your view on that question, and if you are not on the call please provide your view on the BC-Private list. Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal Virtualaw LLC 1155 F Street, NW Suite 1050 Washington, DC 20004 202-559-8597/Direct 202-559-8750/Fax 202-255-6172/cell Twitter: @VlawDC "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey
Hi James, A few questions: Who is putting this "external" pressure on the Council? What happens if we don't vote in January? Does the Council need the approval of the external pressure people (whomever that is) or do they need us? I'm not advocating anything particular at this point. I'm just trying to understand this "ultra-rush" landscape as best I can in order to explain it when asked. Thanks, Paul Sent from my iPhone On Dec 7, 2015, at 6:01 PM, James M. Bladel <jbladel@godaddy.com<mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com>> wrote: Hi folks - Just a reminder that the 17 DEC GNSO Council meeting will have a slot on the agenda to discuss any high-level concerns/red flags raised by any SGs. This is not the last opportunity for individuals or SGs to weigh in on these recommendations. But we should have a clearer sense of whether or not there are any signifiant outstanding issues. And a reminder that we have planned two additional meeting times planned (14 JAN and 21 JAN) for the final review & vote to adopt the the report. It is my hope that all SG concerns will be raised/expressed by then, if not sooner. However, I should point out that due to external time constraints, we cannot entertain any requests for deferrals if the vote takes place in January. Thanks— J. From: <owner-council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org>> on behalf of Keith Drazek <kdrazek@verisign.com<mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com>> Date: Friday, December 4, 2015 at 11:40 To: Phil Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com<mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com>>, GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Subject: [council] RE: Taking the Council's Temperature on Procedures for Consideration of 3rd Accountability Proposal Thanks Phil. The RySG is working now to develop its comments and position statements on the CCWG Proposal. I expect they will be completed prior to our next call on December 17. Regards, Keith From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org> [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Phil Corwin Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 1:29 PM To: council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: [council] Taking the Council's Temperature on Procedures for Consideration of 3rd Accountability Proposal Fellow Councilors: This morning the BC held its regular members’ call, and we got into some discussion in regard to background information I had circulated prior to the call (below). However, there was insufficient participation to reach a BC consensus, and we shall continue the discussion on the BC email list. It was decided on the call that I would reach out to other Councilors to get an initial impression of whether we are aiming to discuss and vote on a Resolution of approval or disapproval in two weeks, on our call of December 17th, or whether we wish to bring that question to a vote on our first call of January 2016. If we are targeting the 17th then we have a great deal of work to do, including getting consensus feedback from those we represent and preparing a draft Resolution. If we are looking toward January then I would strongly suggest that we schedule that call for January 14th, and not the 21st which is only one day prior to the target delivery date to the Board. What are your views on this most important matter? Very best regards, Philip ******************************* BC members, please note that the second item in item #2, following Steve’s review of the Policy calendar, is: · Discussion of final Accountability proposal #3– Comments close December 21- procedure for BC input into CSG, and then GNSO, for Chartering Organization decision The third Accountability proposal was published on Monday, November 30 for a comment period closing on December 21. The target date for delivering the Proposal to the Board for its consideration is January 22, 2016. While public comment is being solicited, we are now at the stage where the primary objective is to get the Chartering Organizations to indicate whether they approve or disapprove of the Proposal – and, if they disapprove, what changes would be required for approval. The GNSO is the relevant Chartering organization for the BC. The next meeting of the GNSO Council is scheduled for December 17, two weeks from today and four days before the close of the public comment period. Susan and I will be looking to BC members to provide a consensus view of the proposal that we can convey to the rest of the CSG, as well as the NCSG and the full Council. The first meeting of the Council in 2016 will be held on either January 14 or 21. If Council does not approve a Resolution of approval or disapproval on December 17 then I think it is a sure bet that the next call will be on January 14, eight days prior to the scheduled Board delivery date. With all of that as background, the guidance your Councilors are looking for on today’s call is whether BC members believe they will be able to convey a consensus view on the proposal prior to the December 17 Council meeting, or whether we should be targeting January 14 for that Council decision. If you are planning to be on today’s call please be prepared to share your view on that question, and if you are not on the call please provide your view on the BC-Private list. Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal Virtualaw LLC 1155 F Street, NW Suite 1050 Washington, DC 20004 202-559-8597/Direct 202-559-8750/Fax 202-255-6172/cell Twitter: @VlawDC "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey The contents of this message may be privileged and confidential. Therefore, if this message has been received in error, please delete it without reading it. Your receipt of this message is not intended to waive any applicable privilege. Please do not disseminate this message without the permission of the author.
Hi Paul - (1) I don't think it's attributable to one person or group, but the cumulative effect of laying all the dependent critical paths (CCWG, Board, NTIA) end-to-end. (2) I can't see how the CCWG proposal can proceed without GNSO approval, so (speculation ahead) any delay on our part may only cut in to the timeline of other groups. For example, the implementation of amendments to the bylaws may need to be accelerated, or (as was suggested) the period allocated by NTIA for its internal review will have to be shortened. At the extreme end, a "meltdown scenario" would mean the sum of these delays requires another extension of the IANA contract beyond 2016. A new administration might terminate the transition, or put it on hold, or restart the process with new requirements. I'm sure I've left out some essential bits. But these are great questions, and I would ask that you raise them again with the CCWG co-chairs when they join our call next week. And if we do go beyond January, then perhaps we should prepare an estimate & plan for whatever extra time is needed to conduct a review that is satisfactory to all SGs. Thank you, J. ____________ James Bladel GoDaddy
On Dec 7, 2015, at 18:19, McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady@winston.com> wrote:
Hi James,
A few questions:
Who is putting this "external" pressure on the Council?
What happens if we don't vote in January? Does the Council need the approval of the external pressure people (whomever that is) or do they need us?
I'm not advocating anything particular at this point. I'm just trying to understand this "ultra-rush" landscape as best I can in order to explain it when asked.
Thanks, Paul
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 7, 2015, at 6:01 PM, James M. Bladel <jbladel@godaddy.com<mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com>> wrote:
Hi folks -
Just a reminder that the 17 DEC GNSO Council meeting will have a slot on the agenda to discuss any high-level concerns/red flags raised by any SGs. This is not the last opportunity for individuals or SGs to weigh in on these recommendations. But we should have a clearer sense of whether or not there are any signifiant outstanding issues. And a reminder that we have planned two additional meeting times planned (14 JAN and 21 JAN) for the final review & vote to adopt the the report.
It is my hope that all SG concerns will be raised/expressed by then, if not sooner. However, I should point out that due to external time constraints, we cannot entertain any requests for deferrals if the vote takes place in January.
Thanks—
J.
From: <owner-council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org>> on behalf of Keith Drazek <kdrazek@verisign.com<mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com>> Date: Friday, December 4, 2015 at 11:40 To: Phil Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com<mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com>>, GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Subject: [council] RE: Taking the Council's Temperature on Procedures for Consideration of 3rd Accountability Proposal
Thanks Phil.
The RySG is working now to develop its comments and position statements on the CCWG Proposal. I expect they will be completed prior to our next call on December 17.
Regards, Keith
From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org> [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Phil Corwin Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 1:29 PM To: council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: [council] Taking the Council's Temperature on Procedures for Consideration of 3rd Accountability Proposal
Fellow Councilors:
This morning the BC held its regular members’ call, and we got into some discussion in regard to background information I had circulated prior to the call (below). However, there was insufficient participation to reach a BC consensus, and we shall continue the discussion on the BC email list.
It was decided on the call that I would reach out to other Councilors to get an initial impression of whether we are aiming to discuss and vote on a Resolution of approval or disapproval in two weeks, on our call of December 17th, or whether we wish to bring that question to a vote on our first call of January 2016.
If we are targeting the 17th then we have a great deal of work to do, including getting consensus feedback from those we represent and preparing a draft Resolution. If we are looking toward January then I would strongly suggest that we schedule that call for January 14th, and not the 21st which is only one day prior to the target delivery date to the Board.
What are your views on this most important matter?
Very best regards, Philip
******************************* BC members, please note that the second item in item #2, following Steve’s review of the Policy calendar, is: · Discussion of final Accountability proposal #3– Comments close December 21- procedure for BC input into CSG, and then GNSO, for Chartering Organization decision
The third Accountability proposal was published on Monday, November 30 for a comment period closing on December 21. The target date for delivering the Proposal to the Board for its consideration is January 22, 2016.
While public comment is being solicited, we are now at the stage where the primary objective is to get the Chartering Organizations to indicate whether they approve or disapprove of the Proposal – and, if they disapprove, what changes would be required for approval.
The GNSO is the relevant Chartering organization for the BC. The next meeting of the GNSO Council is scheduled for December 17, two weeks from today and four days before the close of the public comment period. Susan and I will be looking to BC members to provide a consensus view of the proposal that we can convey to the rest of the CSG, as well as the NCSG and the full Council.
The first meeting of the Council in 2016 will be held on either January 14 or 21. If Council does not approve a Resolution of approval or disapproval on December 17 then I think it is a sure bet that the next call will be on January 14, eight days prior to the scheduled Board delivery date.
With all of that as background, the guidance your Councilors are looking for on today’s call is whether BC members believe they will be able to convey a consensus view on the proposal prior to the December 17 Council meeting, or whether we should be targeting January 14 for that Council decision. If you are planning to be on today’s call please be prepared to share your view on that question, and if you are not on the call please provide your view on the BC-Private list.
Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal Virtualaw LLC 1155 F Street, NW Suite 1050 Washington, DC 20004 202-559-8597/Direct 202-559-8750/Fax 202-255-6172/cell
Twitter: @VlawDC
"Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey
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In regard to this-- At the extreme end, a "meltdown scenario" would mean the sum of these delays requires another extension of the IANA contract beyond 2016. A new administration might terminate the transition, or put it on hold, or restart the process with new requirements. --I just want to note that the FY 15 Appropriations bill prohibited the NTIA from spending a single penny to implement the IANA transition, and in January 2015 remarks at the State of the Net conference Secretary Strickling indicated that the statutory language would indeed bar NTIA completion of the transition. The short term Appropriations bill enacted in September 2015 extended the IANA transition freeze through the end of its funding period -- which is this Friday, December 11th. It's not at all clear whether a long term funding bill will be agreed to by Friday, which may necessitate another short term extender -- or a temporary US government shutdown. In any event, when a one year appropriations bill is finally enacted this month it may continue the prohibition on the IANA transition, and/or it may contain the DotCom Act or some version thereof, or it may tie them together in some way. I don't know what the end result will be, but we should know by this weekend or next week. I'm just pointing out that the NTIA transition freeze may be continued by statute through September 30, 2016. That wouldn't necessarily mean that the IANA contract would need to be extended through 2017, but it could mean that the earliest transition date would be October 1, 2016. Don't shoot the messenger ;-) Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal Virtualaw LLC 1155 F Street, NW Suite 1050 Washington, DC 20004 202-559-8597/Direct 202-559-8750/Fax 202-255-6172/cell Twitter: @VlawDC "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey -----Original Message----- From: James M. Bladel [mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com] Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 8:46 PM To: McGrady, Paul D. Cc: Drazek, Keith; Phil Corwin; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: Re: [council] RE: Taking the Council's Temperature on Procedures for Consideration of 3rd Accountability Proposal Hi Paul - (1) I don't think it's attributable to one person or group, but the cumulative effect of laying all the dependent critical paths (CCWG, Board, NTIA) end-to-end. (2) I can't see how the CCWG proposal can proceed without GNSO approval, so (speculation ahead) any delay on our part may only cut in to the timeline of other groups. For example, the implementation of amendments to the bylaws may need to be accelerated, or (as was suggested) the period allocated by NTIA for its internal review will have to be shortened. At the extreme end, a "meltdown scenario" would mean the sum of these delays requires another extension of the IANA contract beyond 2016. A new administration might terminate the transition, or put it on hold, or restart the process with new requirements. I'm sure I've left out some essential bits. But these are great questions, and I would ask that you raise them again with the CCWG co-chairs when they join our call next week. And if we do go beyond January, then perhaps we should prepare an estimate & plan for whatever extra time is needed to conduct a review that is satisfactory to all SGs. Thank you, J. ____________ James Bladel GoDaddy
On Dec 7, 2015, at 18:19, McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady@winston.com> wrote:
Hi James,
A few questions:
Who is putting this "external" pressure on the Council?
What happens if we don't vote in January? Does the Council need the approval of the external pressure people (whomever that is) or do they need us?
I'm not advocating anything particular at this point. I'm just trying to understand this "ultra-rush" landscape as best I can in order to explain it when asked.
Thanks, Paul
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 7, 2015, at 6:01 PM, James M. Bladel <jbladel@godaddy.com<mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com>> wrote:
Hi folks -
Just a reminder that the 17 DEC GNSO Council meeting will have a slot on the agenda to discuss any high-level concerns/red flags raised by any SGs. This is not the last opportunity for individuals or SGs to weigh in on these recommendations. But we should have a clearer sense of whether or not there are any signifiant outstanding issues. And a reminder that we have planned two additional meeting times planned (14 JAN and 21 JAN) for the final review & vote to adopt the the report.
It is my hope that all SG concerns will be raised/expressed by then, if not sooner. However, I should point out that due to external time constraints, we cannot entertain any requests for deferrals if the vote takes place in January.
Thanks-
J.
From: <owner-council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org>> on behalf of Keith Drazek <kdrazek@verisign.com<mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com>> Date: Friday, December 4, 2015 at 11:40 To: Phil Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com<mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com>>, GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Subject: [council] RE: Taking the Council's Temperature on Procedures for Consideration of 3rd Accountability Proposal
Thanks Phil.
The RySG is working now to develop its comments and position statements on the CCWG Proposal. I expect they will be completed prior to our next call on December 17.
Regards, Keith
From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org> [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Phil Corwin Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 1:29 PM To: council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: [council] Taking the Council's Temperature on Procedures for Consideration of 3rd Accountability Proposal
Fellow Councilors:
This morning the BC held its regular members' call, and we got into some discussion in regard to background information I had circulated prior to the call (below). However, there was insufficient participation to reach a BC consensus, and we shall continue the discussion on the BC email list.
It was decided on the call that I would reach out to other Councilors to get an initial impression of whether we are aiming to discuss and vote on a Resolution of approval or disapproval in two weeks, on our call of December 17th, or whether we wish to bring that question to a vote on our first call of January 2016.
If we are targeting the 17th then we have a great deal of work to do, including getting consensus feedback from those we represent and preparing a draft Resolution. If we are looking toward January then I would strongly suggest that we schedule that call for January 14th, and not the 21st which is only one day prior to the target delivery date to the Board.
What are your views on this most important matter?
Very best regards, Philip
******************************* BC members, please note that the second item in item #2, following Steve's review of the Policy calendar, is: · Discussion of final Accountability proposal #3- Comments close December 21- procedure for BC input into CSG, and then GNSO, for Chartering Organization decision
The third Accountability proposal was published on Monday, November 30 for a comment period closing on December 21. The target date for delivering the Proposal to the Board for its consideration is January 22, 2016.
While public comment is being solicited, we are now at the stage where the primary objective is to get the Chartering Organizations to indicate whether they approve or disapprove of the Proposal - and, if they disapprove, what changes would be required for approval.
The GNSO is the relevant Chartering organization for the BC. The next meeting of the GNSO Council is scheduled for December 17, two weeks from today and four days before the close of the public comment period. Susan and I will be looking to BC members to provide a consensus view of the proposal that we can convey to the rest of the CSG, as well as the NCSG and the full Council.
The first meeting of the Council in 2016 will be held on either January 14 or 21. If Council does not approve a Resolution of approval or disapproval on December 17 then I think it is a sure bet that the next call will be on January 14, eight days prior to the scheduled Board delivery date.
With all of that as background, the guidance your Councilors are looking for on today's call is whether BC members believe they will be able to convey a consensus view on the proposal prior to the December 17 Council meeting, or whether we should be targeting January 14 for that Council decision. If you are planning to be on today's call please be prepared to share your view on that question, and if you are not on the call please provide your view on the BC-Private list.
Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal Virtualaw LLC 1155 F Street, NW Suite 1050 Washington, DC 20004 202-559-8597/Direct 202-559-8750/Fax 202-255-6172/cell
Twitter: @VlawDC
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Thanks, Phil. I was starting to worry that this would get complicated. J. ____________ James Bladel GoDaddy
On Dec 7, 2015, at 20:23, Phil Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com> wrote:
In regard to this--
At the extreme end, a "meltdown scenario" would mean the sum of these delays requires another extension of the IANA contract beyond 2016. A new administration might terminate the transition, or put it on hold, or restart the process with new requirements.
--I just want to note that the FY 15 Appropriations bill prohibited the NTIA from spending a single penny to implement the IANA transition, and in January 2015 remarks at the State of the Net conference Secretary Strickling indicated that the statutory language would indeed bar NTIA completion of the transition.
The short term Appropriations bill enacted in September 2015 extended the IANA transition freeze through the end of its funding period -- which is this Friday, December 11th.
It's not at all clear whether a long term funding bill will be agreed to by Friday, which may necessitate another short term extender -- or a temporary US government shutdown.
In any event, when a one year appropriations bill is finally enacted this month it may continue the prohibition on the IANA transition, and/or it may contain the DotCom Act or some version thereof, or it may tie them together in some way.
I don't know what the end result will be, but we should know by this weekend or next week. I'm just pointing out that the NTIA transition freeze may be continued by statute through September 30, 2016. That wouldn't necessarily mean that the IANA contract would need to be extended through 2017, but it could mean that the earliest transition date would be October 1, 2016.
Don't shoot the messenger ;-)
Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal Virtualaw LLC 1155 F Street, NW Suite 1050 Washington, DC 20004 202-559-8597/Direct 202-559-8750/Fax 202-255-6172/cell
Twitter: @VlawDC
"Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey
-----Original Message----- From: James M. Bladel [mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com] Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 8:46 PM To: McGrady, Paul D. Cc: Drazek, Keith; Phil Corwin; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: Re: [council] RE: Taking the Council's Temperature on Procedures for Consideration of 3rd Accountability Proposal
Hi Paul -
(1) I don't think it's attributable to one person or group, but the cumulative effect of laying all the dependent critical paths (CCWG, Board, NTIA) end-to-end.
(2) I can't see how the CCWG proposal can proceed without GNSO approval, so (speculation ahead) any delay on our part may only cut in to the timeline of other groups. For example, the implementation of amendments to the bylaws may need to be accelerated, or (as was suggested) the period allocated by NTIA for its internal review will have to be shortened.
At the extreme end, a "meltdown scenario" would mean the sum of these delays requires another extension of the IANA contract beyond 2016. A new administration might terminate the transition, or put it on hold, or restart the process with new requirements.
I'm sure I've left out some essential bits. But these are great questions, and I would ask that you raise them again with the CCWG co-chairs when they join our call next week. And if we do go beyond January, then perhaps we should prepare an estimate & plan for whatever extra time is needed to conduct a review that is satisfactory to all SGs.
Thank you,
J. ____________ James Bladel GoDaddy
On Dec 7, 2015, at 18:19, McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady@winston.com> wrote:
Hi James,
A few questions:
Who is putting this "external" pressure on the Council?
What happens if we don't vote in January? Does the Council need the approval of the external pressure people (whomever that is) or do they need us?
I'm not advocating anything particular at this point. I'm just trying to understand this "ultra-rush" landscape as best I can in order to explain it when asked.
Thanks, Paul
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 7, 2015, at 6:01 PM, James M. Bladel <jbladel@godaddy.com<mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com>> wrote:
Hi folks -
Just a reminder that the 17 DEC GNSO Council meeting will have a slot on the agenda to discuss any high-level concerns/red flags raised by any SGs. This is not the last opportunity for individuals or SGs to weigh in on these recommendations. But we should have a clearer sense of whether or not there are any signifiant outstanding issues. And a reminder that we have planned two additional meeting times planned (14 JAN and 21 JAN) for the final review & vote to adopt the the report.
It is my hope that all SG concerns will be raised/expressed by then, if not sooner. However, I should point out that due to external time constraints, we cannot entertain any requests for deferrals if the vote takes place in January.
Thanks-
J.
From: <owner-council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org>> on behalf of Keith Drazek <kdrazek@verisign.com<mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com>> Date: Friday, December 4, 2015 at 11:40 To: Phil Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com<mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com>>, GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Subject: [council] RE: Taking the Council's Temperature on Procedures for Consideration of 3rd Accountability Proposal
Thanks Phil.
The RySG is working now to develop its comments and position statements on the CCWG Proposal. I expect they will be completed prior to our next call on December 17.
Regards, Keith
From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org> [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Phil Corwin Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 1:29 PM To: council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: [council] Taking the Council's Temperature on Procedures for Consideration of 3rd Accountability Proposal
Fellow Councilors:
This morning the BC held its regular members' call, and we got into some discussion in regard to background information I had circulated prior to the call (below). However, there was insufficient participation to reach a BC consensus, and we shall continue the discussion on the BC email list.
It was decided on the call that I would reach out to other Councilors to get an initial impression of whether we are aiming to discuss and vote on a Resolution of approval or disapproval in two weeks, on our call of December 17th, or whether we wish to bring that question to a vote on our first call of January 2016.
If we are targeting the 17th then we have a great deal of work to do, including getting consensus feedback from those we represent and preparing a draft Resolution. If we are looking toward January then I would strongly suggest that we schedule that call for January 14th, and not the 21st which is only one day prior to the target delivery date to the Board.
What are your views on this most important matter?
Very best regards, Philip
******************************* BC members, please note that the second item in item #2, following Steve's review of the Policy calendar, is: · Discussion of final Accountability proposal #3- Comments close December 21- procedure for BC input into CSG, and then GNSO, for Chartering Organization decision
The third Accountability proposal was published on Monday, November 30 for a comment period closing on December 21. The target date for delivering the Proposal to the Board for its consideration is January 22, 2016.
While public comment is being solicited, we are now at the stage where the primary objective is to get the Chartering Organizations to indicate whether they approve or disapprove of the Proposal - and, if they disapprove, what changes would be required for approval.
The GNSO is the relevant Chartering organization for the BC. The next meeting of the GNSO Council is scheduled for December 17, two weeks from today and four days before the close of the public comment period. Susan and I will be looking to BC members to provide a consensus view of the proposal that we can convey to the rest of the CSG, as well as the NCSG and the full Council.
The first meeting of the Council in 2016 will be held on either January 14 or 21. If Council does not approve a Resolution of approval or disapproval on December 17 then I think it is a sure bet that the next call will be on January 14, eight days prior to the scheduled Board delivery date.
With all of that as background, the guidance your Councilors are looking for on today's call is whether BC members believe they will be able to convey a consensus view on the proposal prior to the December 17 Council meeting, or whether we should be targeting January 14 for that Council decision. If you are planning to be on today's call please be prepared to share your view on that question, and if you are not on the call please provide your view on the BC-Private list.
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James, These days anything that requires a decision by the US government is complicated. Hopefully all this will be clearer by the Dec. 17 Council call. Best, Philip Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal Virtualaw LLC 1155 F Street, NW Suite 1050 Washington, DC 20004 202-559-8597/Direct 202-559-8750/Fax 202-255-6172/Cell Twitter: @VLawDC "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey Sent from my iPad
On Dec 7, 2015, at 10:06 PM, James M. Bladel <jbladel@godaddy.com> wrote:
Thanks, Phil. I was starting to worry that this would get complicated.
J. ____________ James Bladel GoDaddy
On Dec 7, 2015, at 20:23, Phil Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com> wrote:
In regard to this--
At the extreme end, a "meltdown scenario" would mean the sum of these delays requires another extension of the IANA contract beyond 2016. A new administration might terminate the transition, or put it on hold, or restart the process with new requirements.
--I just want to note that the FY 15 Appropriations bill prohibited the NTIA from spending a single penny to implement the IANA transition, and in January 2015 remarks at the State of the Net conference Secretary Strickling indicated that the statutory language would indeed bar NTIA completion of the transition.
The short term Appropriations bill enacted in September 2015 extended the IANA transition freeze through the end of its funding period -- which is this Friday, December 11th.
It's not at all clear whether a long term funding bill will be agreed to by Friday, which may necessitate another short term extender -- or a temporary US government shutdown.
In any event, when a one year appropriations bill is finally enacted this month it may continue the prohibition on the IANA transition, and/or it may contain the DotCom Act or some version thereof, or it may tie them together in some way.
I don't know what the end result will be, but we should know by this weekend or next week. I'm just pointing out that the NTIA transition freeze may be continued by statute through September 30, 2016. That wouldn't necessarily mean that the IANA contract would need to be extended through 2017, but it could mean that the earliest transition date would be October 1, 2016.
Don't shoot the messenger ;-)
Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal Virtualaw LLC 1155 F Street, NW Suite 1050 Washington, DC 20004 202-559-8597/Direct 202-559-8750/Fax 202-255-6172/cell
Twitter: @VlawDC
"Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey
-----Original Message----- From: James M. Bladel [mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com] Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 8:46 PM To: McGrady, Paul D. Cc: Drazek, Keith; Phil Corwin; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: Re: [council] RE: Taking the Council's Temperature on Procedures for Consideration of 3rd Accountability Proposal
Hi Paul -
(1) I don't think it's attributable to one person or group, but the cumulative effect of laying all the dependent critical paths (CCWG, Board, NTIA) end-to-end.
(2) I can't see how the CCWG proposal can proceed without GNSO approval, so (speculation ahead) any delay on our part may only cut in to the timeline of other groups. For example, the implementation of amendments to the bylaws may need to be accelerated, or (as was suggested) the period allocated by NTIA for its internal review will have to be shortened.
At the extreme end, a "meltdown scenario" would mean the sum of these delays requires another extension of the IANA contract beyond 2016. A new administration might terminate the transition, or put it on hold, or restart the process with new requirements.
I'm sure I've left out some essential bits. But these are great questions, and I would ask that you raise them again with the CCWG co-chairs when they join our call next week. And if we do go beyond January, then perhaps we should prepare an estimate & plan for whatever extra time is needed to conduct a review that is satisfactory to all SGs.
Thank you,
J. ____________ James Bladel GoDaddy
On Dec 7, 2015, at 18:19, McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady@winston.com> wrote:
Hi James,
A few questions:
Who is putting this "external" pressure on the Council?
What happens if we don't vote in January? Does the Council need the approval of the external pressure people (whomever that is) or do they need us?
I'm not advocating anything particular at this point. I'm just trying to understand this "ultra-rush" landscape as best I can in order to explain it when asked.
Thanks, Paul
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On Dec 7, 2015, at 6:01 PM, James M. Bladel <jbladel@godaddy.com<mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com>> wrote:
Hi folks -
Just a reminder that the 17 DEC GNSO Council meeting will have a slot on the agenda to discuss any high-level concerns/red flags raised by any SGs. This is not the last opportunity for individuals or SGs to weigh in on these recommendations. But we should have a clearer sense of whether or not there are any signifiant outstanding issues. And a reminder that we have planned two additional meeting times planned (14 JAN and 21 JAN) for the final review & vote to adopt the the report.
It is my hope that all SG concerns will be raised/expressed by then, if not sooner. However, I should point out that due to external time constraints, we cannot entertain any requests for deferrals if the vote takes place in January.
Thanks-
J.
From: <owner-council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org>> on behalf of Keith Drazek <kdrazek@verisign.com<mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com>> Date: Friday, December 4, 2015 at 11:40 To: Phil Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com<mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com>>, GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Subject: [council] RE: Taking the Council's Temperature on Procedures for Consideration of 3rd Accountability Proposal
Thanks Phil.
The RySG is working now to develop its comments and position statements on the CCWG Proposal. I expect they will be completed prior to our next call on December 17.
Regards, Keith
From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org> [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Phil Corwin Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 1:29 PM To: council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: [council] Taking the Council's Temperature on Procedures for Consideration of 3rd Accountability Proposal
Fellow Councilors:
This morning the BC held its regular members' call, and we got into some discussion in regard to background information I had circulated prior to the call (below). However, there was insufficient participation to reach a BC consensus, and we shall continue the discussion on the BC email list.
It was decided on the call that I would reach out to other Councilors to get an initial impression of whether we are aiming to discuss and vote on a Resolution of approval or disapproval in two weeks, on our call of December 17th, or whether we wish to bring that question to a vote on our first call of January 2016.
If we are targeting the 17th then we have a great deal of work to do, including getting consensus feedback from those we represent and preparing a draft Resolution. If we are looking toward January then I would strongly suggest that we schedule that call for January 14th, and not the 21st which is only one day prior to the target delivery date to the Board.
What are your views on this most important matter?
Very best regards, Philip
******************************* BC members, please note that the second item in item #2, following Steve's review of the Policy calendar, is: · Discussion of final Accountability proposal #3- Comments close December 21- procedure for BC input into CSG, and then GNSO, for Chartering Organization decision
The third Accountability proposal was published on Monday, November 30 for a comment period closing on December 21. The target date for delivering the Proposal to the Board for its consideration is January 22, 2016.
While public comment is being solicited, we are now at the stage where the primary objective is to get the Chartering Organizations to indicate whether they approve or disapprove of the Proposal - and, if they disapprove, what changes would be required for approval.
The GNSO is the relevant Chartering organization for the BC. The next meeting of the GNSO Council is scheduled for December 17, two weeks from today and four days before the close of the public comment period. Susan and I will be looking to BC members to provide a consensus view of the proposal that we can convey to the rest of the CSG, as well as the NCSG and the full Council.
The first meeting of the Council in 2016 will be held on either January 14 or 21. If Council does not approve a Resolution of approval or disapproval on December 17 then I think it is a sure bet that the next call will be on January 14, eight days prior to the scheduled Board delivery date.
With all of that as background, the guidance your Councilors are looking for on today's call is whether BC members believe they will be able to convey a consensus view on the proposal prior to the December 17 Council meeting, or whether we should be targeting January 14 for that Council decision. If you are planning to be on today's call please be prepared to share your view on that question, and if you are not on the call please provide your view on the BC-Private list.
Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal Virtualaw LLC 1155 F Street, NW Suite 1050 Washington, DC 20004 202-559-8597/Direct 202-559-8750/Fax 202-255-6172/cell
Twitter: @VlawDC
"Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey
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