Thanks for some very good discussion on the role of the Council. As a starting point for continuing that discussion on this list, these are the points we may wish to look at: Should we have this session again at next ICANN meeting? Does Council support the idea of the leaders talking to group chairs? How to improve the communication between the groups - standing number for informal group calls. Thanks, Stéphane
Support to all points from my side Wolf-Ulrich -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] Im Auftrag von Stéphane Van Gelder Gesendet: Samstag, 4. Dezember 2010 18:17 An: GNSO Council Betreff: [council] Role of the Council discussion Thanks for some very good discussion on the role of the Council. As a starting point for continuing that discussion on this list, these are the points we may wish to look at: Should we have this session again at next ICANN meeting? Does Council support the idea of the leaders talking to group chairs? How to improve the communication between the groups - standing number for informal group calls. Thanks, Stéphane
I believe these are all important points for future discussion. Debbie -----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 12:17 PM To: GNSO Council Subject: [council] Role of the Council discussion Thanks for some very good discussion on the role of the Council. As a starting point for continuing that discussion on this list, these are the points we may wish to look at: Should we have this session again at next ICANN meeting? Does Council support the idea of the leaders talking to group chairs? How to improve the communication between the groups - standing number for informal group calls. Thanks, Stéphane
Thanks Debbie and Wolf. Stéphane Le 4 déc. 2010 à 18:38, <HughesDeb@usa.redcross.org> a écrit :
I believe these are all important points for future discussion. Debbie
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 12:17 PM To: GNSO Council Subject: [council] Role of the Council discussion
Thanks for some very good discussion on the role of the Council.
As a starting point for continuing that discussion on this list, these are the points we may wish to look at:
Should we have this session again at next ICANN meeting? Does Council support the idea of the leaders talking to group chairs? How to improve the communication between the groups - standing number for informal group calls.
Thanks,
Stéphane
Is there room on the agenda for our Thursday wrap-up meeting that we can use to start the discussion? Mary W S Wong Professor of Law Chair, Graduate IP Programs UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAWTwo White StreetConcord, NH 03301USAEmail: mary.wong@law.unh.eduPhone: 1-603-513-5143Webpage: http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.phpSelected writings available on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at: http://ssrn.com/author=437584>>> From: Stéphane Van Gelder<stephane.vangelder@indom.com> To:<HughesDeb@usa.redcross.org> CC:<council@gnso.icann.org> Date: 12/4/2010 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [council] Role of the Council discussion Thanks Debbie and Wolf. Stéphane Le 4 déc. 2010 à 18:38, <HughesDeb@usa.redcross.org> a écrit :
I believe these are all important points for future discussion. Debbie
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 12:17 PM To: GNSO Council Subject: [council] Role of the Council discussion
Thanks for some very good discussion on the role of the Council.
As a starting point for continuing that discussion on this list, these are the points we may wish to look at:
Should we have this session again at next ICANN meeting? Does Council support the idea of the leaders talking to group chairs? How to improve the communication between the groups - standing number for informal group calls.
Thanks,
Stéphane
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I agree with Deb, but disagree that Council leaders should be liasing with anyone but GNSO Councilors, who were specifically elected by their Constituencies (uniformly) for that purpose. The roles of Chair in the various Constituencies, for example, vary widely. Mike Rodenbaugh RODENBAUGH LAW tel/fax: +1 (415) 738-8087 http://rodenbaugh.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of HughesDeb@usa.redcross.org Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 9:39 AM To: stephane.vangelder@indom.com; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: RE: [council] Role of the Council discussion I believe these are all important points for future discussion. Debbie -----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 12:17 PM To: GNSO Council Subject: [council] Role of the Council discussion Thanks for some very good discussion on the role of the Council. As a starting point for continuing that discussion on this list, these are the points we may wish to look at: Should we have this session again at next ICANN meeting? Does Council support the idea of the leaders talking to group chairs? How to improve the communication between the groups - standing number for informal group calls. Thanks, Stéphane
Thanks Mike, Perhaps we can take up Mary's suggestion and pursue this discussion during the wrap-up session on Thursday, and use your comment as a starting point for that? Stéphane Le 4 déc. 2010 à 18:52, Mike Rodenbaugh a écrit :
I agree with Deb, but disagree that Council leaders should be liasing with anyone but GNSO Councilors, who were specifically elected by their Constituencies (uniformly) for that purpose. The roles of Chair in the various Constituencies, for example, vary widely.
Mike Rodenbaugh RODENBAUGH LAW tel/fax: +1 (415) 738-8087 http://rodenbaugh.com
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of HughesDeb@usa.redcross.org Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 9:39 AM To: stephane.vangelder@indom.com; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: RE: [council] Role of the Council discussion
I believe these are all important points for future discussion. Debbie
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 12:17 PM To: GNSO Council Subject: [council] Role of the Council discussion
Thanks for some very good discussion on the role of the Council.
As a starting point for continuing that discussion on this list, these are the points we may wish to look at:
Should we have this session again at next ICANN meeting? Does Council support the idea of the leaders talking to group chairs? How to improve the communication between the groups - standing number for informal group calls.
Thanks,
Stéphane
2010/12/4 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com>
Thanks for some very good discussion on the role of the Council.
As a starting point for continuing that discussion on this list, these are the points we may wish to look at:
Should we have this session again at next ICANN meeting? Does Council support the idea of the leaders talking to group chairs? How to improve the communication between the groups - standing number for informal group calls.
All fine, but I'd add to this the question Tim and I were debating about how Council may deal with reports, and the broader question of Council freedom to deliberate and act.
Thanks,
Stéphane
-- *********************************************************** William J. Drake Senior Associate Centre for International Governance Graduate Institute for International and Development Studies Geneva, Switzerland william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch http://www.williamdrake.org ***********************************************************
I support this Wolf-Ulrich ________________________________ Von: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] Im Auftrag von William Drake Gesendet: Samstag, 4. Dezember 2010 19:05 An: Stéphane Van Gelder Cc: GNSO Council Betreff: Re: [council] Role of the Council discussion 2010/12/4 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> Thanks for some very good discussion on the role of the Council. As a starting point for continuing that discussion on this list, these are the points we may wish to look at: Should we have this session again at next ICANN meeting? Does Council support the idea of the leaders talking to group chairs? How to improve the communication between the groups - standing number for informal group calls. All fine, but I'd add to this the question Tim and I were debating about how Council may deal with reports, and the broader question of Council freedom to deliberate and act. Thanks, Stéphane -- *********************************************************** William J. Drake Senior Associate Centre for International Governance Graduate Institute for International and Development Studies Geneva, Switzerland william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch http://www.williamdrake.org ***********************************************************
I also support this Olga 2010/12/4 <KnobenW@telekom.de>
I support this
Wolf-Ulrich
------------------------------ *Von:* owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] *Im Auftrag von *William Drake *Gesendet:* Samstag, 4. Dezember 2010 19:05 *An:* Stéphane Van Gelder *Cc:* GNSO Council *Betreff:* Re: [council] Role of the Council discussion
2010/12/4 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com>
Thanks for some very good discussion on the role of the Council.
As a starting point for continuing that discussion on this list, these are the points we may wish to look at:
Should we have this session again at next ICANN meeting? Does Council support the idea of the leaders talking to group chairs? How to improve the communication between the groups - standing number for informal group calls.
All fine, but I'd add to this the question Tim and I were debating about how Council may deal with reports, and the broader question of Council freedom to deliberate and act.
Thanks,
Stéphane
-- *********************************************************** William J. Drake Senior Associate Centre for International Governance Graduate Institute for International and Development Studies Geneva, Switzerland william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch http://www.williamdrake.org ***********************************************************
Thanks Bill, I have added that point to the list which now becomes: Should we have this session again at next ICANN meeting? Does Council support the idea of the leaders talking to group chairs? How to improve the communication between the groups - standing number for informal group calls. How Council may deal with reports, and the broader question of Council freedom to deliberate and act? Stéphane Le 4 déc. 2010 à 19:05, William Drake a écrit :
2010/12/4 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com>
Thanks for some very good discussion on the role of the Council.
As a starting point for continuing that discussion on this list, these are the points we may wish to look at:
Should we have this session again at next ICANN meeting? Does Council support the idea of the leaders talking to group chairs? How to improve the communication between the groups - standing number for informal group calls.
All fine, but I'd add to this the question Tim and I were debating about how Council may deal with reports, and the broader question of Council freedom to deliberate and act.
Thanks,
Stéphane
-- *********************************************************** William J. Drake Senior Associate Centre for International Governance Graduate Institute for International and Development Studies Geneva, Switzerland william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch http://www.williamdrake.org ***********************************************************
Should we have this session again at next ICANN meeting? [jw] Yes, as long as the schedule allows. Does Council support the idea of the leaders talking to group chairs? [JW] Talking ok, but not alienating councillors representing these groups The other two questions deserve more thorough consideration. Jaime Wagner jaime@powerself.com.br Direto (51) 3219-5955 Cel (51) 8126-0916 Geral (51) 3233-3551 DDG: 0800-703-6366 <http://www.powerself.com.br/> www.powerself.com.br De: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] Em nome de Stéphane Van Gelder Enviada em: sábado, 4 de dezembro de 2010 16:58 Para: William Drake Cc: GNSO Council Assunto: Re: [council] Role of the Council discussion Thanks Bill, I have added that point to the list which now becomes: Should we have this session again at next ICANN meeting? Does Council support the idea of the leaders talking to group chairs? How to improve the communication between the groups - standing number for informal group calls. How Council may deal with reports, and the broader question of Council freedom to deliberate and act? Stéphane Le 4 déc. 2010 à 19:05, William Drake a écrit : 2010/12/4 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com> Thanks for some very good discussion on the role of the Council. As a starting point for continuing that discussion on this list, these are the points we may wish to look at: Should we have this session again at next ICANN meeting? Does Council support the idea of the leaders talking to group chairs? How to improve the communication between the groups - standing number for informal group calls. All fine, but I'd add to this the question Tim and I were debating about how Council may deal with reports, and the broader question of Council freedom to deliberate and act. Thanks, Stéphane -- *********************************************************** William J. Drake Senior Associate Centre for International Governance Graduate Institute for International and Development Studies Geneva, Switzerland william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch http://www.williamdrake.org <http://www.williamdrake.org/> ***********************************************************
Thanks Jaime. I've added that to the items for our Thursday wrap-up agenda. Stéphane Le 4 déc. 2010 à 17:18, Jaime Wagner - PowerSelf a écrit :
Should we have this session again at next ICANN meeting? [jw] Yes, as long as the schedule allows. Does Council support the idea of the leaders talking to group chairs? [JW] Talking ok, but not alienating councillors representing these groups The other two questions deserve more thorough consideration.
Jaime Wagner jaime@powerself.com.br Direto (51) 3219-5955 Cel (51) 8126-0916 Geral (51) 3233-3551 DDG: 0800-703-6366 www.powerself.com.br
De: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] Em nome de Stéphane Van Gelder Enviada em: sábado, 4 de dezembro de 2010 16:58 Para: William Drake Cc: GNSO Council Assunto: Re: [council] Role of the Council discussion
Thanks Bill, I have added that point to the list which now becomes:
Should we have this session again at next ICANN meeting? Does Council support the idea of the leaders talking to group chairs? How to improve the communication between the groups - standing number for informal group calls. How Council may deal with reports, and the broader question of Council freedom to deliberate and act?
Stéphane
Le 4 déc. 2010 à 19:05, William Drake a écrit :
2010/12/4 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com>
Thanks for some very good discussion on the role of the Council.
As a starting point for continuing that discussion on this list, these are the points we may wish to look at:
Should we have this session again at next ICANN meeting? Does Council support the idea of the leaders talking to group chairs? How to improve the communication between the groups - standing number for informal group calls.
All fine, but I'd add to this the question Tim and I were debating about how Council may deal with reports, and the broader question of Council freedom to deliberate and act.
Thanks,
Stéphane
-- *********************************************************** William J. Drake Senior Associate Centre for International Governance Graduate Institute for International and Development Studies Geneva, Switzerland william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch http://www.williamdrake.org ***********************************************************
Just as a follow-up, on the last point, the text below is what is in the latest draft of the PDP-WT report that is currently under discussion. This may be useful to consider in our discussions. Thanks, Stéphane § The PDP-WT recommends to provide additional guidance to GNSO Council in the Policy Development Process Procedure Manual on how to treat Working Group recommendations, especially those thathave not received full consensus and the expected / desired approach to adoption of some, but not all, or rejection of recommendations. PDP WGs should be encouraged to indicate which, if any, recommendations are interdependent so the GNSO Council can take this into account as part of their deliberations. ThePDP-WT would like to express its concern about the GNSO Council ‘picking and choosing’ or modifying recommendations, but recognizes that this is the Council’s prerogative. The PDP-WT would like to encourage the GNSO Council that therewere it does have concerns or would propose changes to recommendations, it passes these concerns and/or recommendations for changes back to the respective PDP Working Group for their input. Le 4 déc. 2010 à 19:57, Stéphane Van Gelder a écrit :
Thanks Bill, I have added that point to the list which now becomes:
Should we have this session again at next ICANN meeting?
Does Council support the idea of the leaders talking to group chairs?
How to improve the communication between the groups - standing number for informal group calls.
How Council may deal with reports, and the broader question of Council freedom to deliberate and act?
Stéphane
Le 4 déc. 2010 à 19:05, William Drake a écrit :
2010/12/4 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com>
Thanks for some very good discussion on the role of the Council.
As a starting point for continuing that discussion on this list, these are the points we may wish to look at:
Should we have this session again at next ICANN meeting? Does Council support the idea of the leaders talking to group chairs? How to improve the communication between the groups - standing number for informal group calls.
All fine, but I'd add to this the question Tim and I were debating about how Council may deal with reports, and the broader question of Council freedom to deliberate and act.
Thanks,
Stéphane
-- *********************************************************** William J. Drake Senior Associate Centre for International Governance Graduate Institute for International and Development Studies Geneva, Switzerland william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch http://www.williamdrake.org ***********************************************************
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HughesDeb＠usa.redcross.org -
Jaime Wagner - PowerSelf -
KnobenW＠telekom.de -
Mary Wong -
Mike Rodenbaugh -
Olga Cavalli -
Stéphane Van Gelder -
William Drake