So the message would be this? The Drafting Team is continuing to work on the issue and will provide its recommendations back to the GNSO Council. Stéphane Van Gelder Directeur Général / General manager INDOM Group NBT France ---------------- Head of Domain Operations Group NBT Le 11 mai 2012 à 02:09, Taylor, David a écrit :
The Drafting Team should keep working in order to provide its recommendations back to the GNSO Council.
Willing and effective volunteers should be cherished.
David
David Taylor Partner Hogan Lovells International LLP 6 avenue Kléber 75116 Paris
Tel:+33 1 53 67 47 47 Fax:+33 1 53 67 47 48 Email:drd@hoganlovells.com www.hoganlovells.com
From: Neuman, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Neuman@neustar.us] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 11:47 PM To: Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com>; GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: RE: [council] IOC/RC
I disagreed with Mary’s suggestion on the chat and continue to for a number of reasons. First, implicit in Mary’s note is the notion that the Council has made the decision to abandon the Drafting Team approach, which is a notion I only advocated by the NCSG on the call.
Second, it sends the wrong message to the current Drafting Team and will make it next to impossible for the Drafting Team to get any work done between now and Prague. They will not want to do any work on the second level issues as they will believe that doing such work would be a waste of their time (Since the GNSO as a whole is “continuing to work” on the issue). That feeling has already been expressed by several members of the DT (prior to the GNSO Council call). There is a strong belief that any future work will be a waste of their volunteer time.
So, if we actually expect the DT to keep working on a response, which was what I clearly heard on the call, then let’s just state that the Drafting Team is continuing to work on the issue and will provide its recommendations back to the GNSO Council. If on the other hand the GNSO as a whole is willing to get on calls every two weeks and really work in earnest on the response, then I am fine with the message Mary suggests and I expect to see you all on the call next Wednesday as scheduled. I am fine with taking either approach…the Drafting Team works on it, or the GNSO as a whole works on its. But we can’t just state that the GNSO as a whole is working on it, and then it turns out no one actually does.
Thanks.
Jeffrey J. Neuman Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs
From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 3:50 PM To: GNSO Council List Subject: [council] IOC/RC
Councillors,
As discussed during today's call, I would like to ask the Council for clear direction on what next steps to take on the IOC/RC DT.
You will recall that on the call I suggested that we instruct the DT to continue its work and that a short message be sent to the GAC.
Mary had the following suggestion on the call:
Mary Wong: @Stephane, in view of the apparent confusion over the DT issue, can you respond to the GAC simply stating what the DT has done to date and indicating that the GNSO as a whole is continuing to work on the second level issue without specifically mentioning that the DT will be the group doing the work? And then including that question on the agenda for our next mtg?
Please add to this discussion so that we can determine what our next steps should be.
Thanks,
Stéphane Van Gelder Directeur Général / General manager INDOM Group NBT France ---------------- Head of Domain Operations Group NBT
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Stéphane, I would add a few more words. Please find my proposal below. Thomas Dear... with this message, we would like to give you an update on the status with respect to your request regarding protection of the the IOC / RCRC names. As you know, the Drafting Team has completed its work on protections at the Top Level, which has resulted in a Resolution by the GNSO Council of March, 26 (20120326-1). We would like to thank you for your co-operation during that phase of the work. Please be advised that during yesterday's Council Meeting, the Drafting Team has been tasked to continue its work in response to your request for protections at the Second Level. We will let you know once the Drafting Team has provided a recommendation to the GNSO Council and invite you to work with the group again in due course. Best regards, Am 11.05.2012 um 10:11 schrieb Stéphane Van Gelder:
So the message would be this?
The Drafting Team is continuing to work on the issue and will provide its recommendations back to the GNSO Council.
Stéphane Van Gelder Directeur Général / General manager INDOM Group NBT France ---------------- Head of Domain Operations Group NBT
Le 11 mai 2012 à 02:09, Taylor, David a écrit :
The Drafting Team should keep working in order to provide its recommendations back to the GNSO Council.
Willing and effective volunteers should be cherished.
David
David Taylor Partner Hogan Lovells International LLP 6 avenue Kléber 75116 Paris
Tel:+33 1 53 67 47 47 Fax:+33 1 53 67 47 48 Email:drd@hoganlovells.com www.hoganlovells.com
From: Neuman, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Neuman@neustar.us] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 11:47 PM To: Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com>; GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: RE: [council] IOC/RC
I disagreed with Mary’s suggestion on the chat and continue to for a number of reasons. First, implicit in Mary’s note is the notion that the Council has made the decision to abandon the Drafting Team approach, which is a notion I only advocated by the NCSG on the call.
Second, it sends the wrong message to the current Drafting Team and will make it next to impossible for the Drafting Team to get any work done between now and Prague. They will not want to do any work on the second level issues as they will believe that doing such work would be a waste of their time (Since the GNSO as a whole is “continuing to work” on the issue). That feeling has already been expressed by several members of the DT (prior to the GNSO Council call). There is a strong belief that any future work will be a waste of their volunteer time.
So, if we actually expect the DT to keep working on a response, which was what I clearly heard on the call, then let’s just state that the Drafting Team is continuing to work on the issue and will provide its recommendations back to the GNSO Council. If on the other hand the GNSO as a whole is willing to get on calls every two weeks and really work in earnest on the response, then I am fine with the message Mary suggests and I expect to see you all on the call next Wednesday as scheduled. I am fine with taking either approach…the Drafting Team works on it, or the GNSO as a whole works on its. But we can’t just state that the GNSO as a whole is working on it, and then it turns out no one actually does.
Thanks.
Jeffrey J. Neuman Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs
From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 3:50 PM To: GNSO Council List Subject: [council] IOC/RC
Councillors,
As discussed during today's call, I would like to ask the Council for clear direction on what next steps to take on the IOC/RC DT.
You will recall that on the call I suggested that we instruct the DT to continue its work and that a short message be sent to the GAC.
Mary had the following suggestion on the call:
Mary Wong: @Stephane, in view of the apparent confusion over the DT issue, can you respond to the GAC simply stating what the DT has done to date and indicating that the GNSO as a whole is continuing to work on the second level issue without specifically mentioning that the DT will be the group doing the work? And then including that question on the agenda for our next mtg?
Please add to this discussion so that we can determine what our next steps should be.
Thanks,
Stéphane Van Gelder Directeur Général / General manager INDOM Group NBT France ---------------- Head of Domain Operations Group NBT
Hogan Lovells (Paris) LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales with registered number OC353350, and is authorised and regulated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority of England and Wales. Registered office: Atlantic House, Holborn Viaduct, London EC1A 2FG. Hogan Lovells (Paris) LLP is an affiliated business of Hogan Lovells International LLP, a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales. "Hogan Lovells" is an international legal practice that includes Hogan Lovells International LLP, Hogan Lovells US LLP and their affiliated businesses. The word "partner" is used to describe a partner or member of Hogan Lovells International LLP, Hogan Lovells US LLP or any of their affiliated entities or any employee or consultant with equivalent standing. Certain individuals, who are designated as partners, but who are not members of Hogan Lovells International LLP, do not hold qualifications equivalent to members. For more information about Hogan Lovells, the partners and their qualifications, see www.hoganlovells.com.
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Thanks Thomas. Is everyone happy with this? Stéphane Le 11 mai 2012 à 10:32, Thomas Rickert a écrit :
Stéphane, I would add a few more words. Please find my proposal below.
Thomas
Dear... with this message, we would like to give you an update on the status with respect to your request regarding protection of the the IOC / RCRC names.
As you know, the Drafting Team has completed its work on protections at the Top Level, which has resulted in a Resolution by the GNSO Council of March, 26 (20120326-1). We would like to thank you for your co-operation during that phase of the work.
Please be advised that during yesterday's Council Meeting, the Drafting Team has been tasked to continue its work in response to your request for protections at the Second Level. We will let you know once the Drafting Team has provided a recommendation to the GNSO Council and invite you to work with the group again in due course.
Best regards,
Am 11.05.2012 um 10:11 schrieb Stéphane Van Gelder:
So the message would be this?
The Drafting Team is continuing to work on the issue and will provide its recommendations back to the GNSO Council.
Stéphane Van Gelder Directeur Général / General manager INDOM Group NBT France ---------------- Head of Domain Operations Group NBT
Le 11 mai 2012 à 02:09, Taylor, David a écrit :
The Drafting Team should keep working in order to provide its recommendations back to the GNSO Council.
Willing and effective volunteers should be cherished.
David
David Taylor Partner Hogan Lovells International LLP 6 avenue Kléber 75116 Paris
Tel:+33 1 53 67 47 47 Fax:+33 1 53 67 47 48 Email:drd@hoganlovells.com www.hoganlovells.com
From: Neuman, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Neuman@neustar.us] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 11:47 PM To: Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com>; GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: RE: [council] IOC/RC
I disagreed with Mary’s suggestion on the chat and continue to for a number of reasons. First, implicit in Mary’s note is the notion that the Council has made the decision to abandon the Drafting Team approach, which is a notion I only advocated by the NCSG on the call.
Second, it sends the wrong message to the current Drafting Team and will make it next to impossible for the Drafting Team to get any work done between now and Prague. They will not want to do any work on the second level issues as they will believe that doing such work would be a waste of their time (Since the GNSO as a whole is “continuing to work” on the issue). That feeling has already been expressed by several members of the DT (prior to the GNSO Council call). There is a strong belief that any future work will be a waste of their volunteer time.
So, if we actually expect the DT to keep working on a response, which was what I clearly heard on the call, then let’s just state that the Drafting Team is continuing to work on the issue and will provide its recommendations back to the GNSO Council. If on the other hand the GNSO as a whole is willing to get on calls every two weeks and really work in earnest on the response, then I am fine with the message Mary suggests and I expect to see you all on the call next Wednesday as scheduled. I am fine with taking either approach…the Drafting Team works on it, or the GNSO as a whole works on its. But we can’t just state that the GNSO as a whole is working on it, and then it turns out no one actually does.
Thanks.
Jeffrey J. Neuman Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs
From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 3:50 PM To: GNSO Council List Subject: [council] IOC/RC
Councillors,
As discussed during today's call, I would like to ask the Council for clear direction on what next steps to take on the IOC/RC DT.
You will recall that on the call I suggested that we instruct the DT to continue its work and that a short message be sent to the GAC.
Mary had the following suggestion on the call:
Mary Wong: @Stephane, in view of the apparent confusion over the DT issue, can you respond to the GAC simply stating what the DT has done to date and indicating that the GNSO as a whole is continuing to work on the second level issue without specifically mentioning that the DT will be the group doing the work? And then including that question on the agenda for our next mtg?
Please add to this discussion so that we can determine what our next steps should be.
Thanks,
Stéphane Van Gelder Directeur Général / General manager INDOM Group NBT France ---------------- Head of Domain Operations Group NBT
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On 05/11/2012 06:09 AM, Stéphane Van Gelder wrote:
Thanks Thomas.
Is everyone happy with this?
Suggested amendments below: Isn't the correct interface for the GAC is with GNSO Council, not Drafting Team? (This is independent of NCSG's preference that the Drafting Team activity be stopped altogether.)
Le 11 mai 2012 à 10:32, Thomas Rickert a écrit :
Stéphane, I would add a few more words. Please find my proposal below.
Thomas
Dear... with this message, we would like to give you an update on the status with respect to your request regarding protection of the the IOC / RCRC names.
As you know, the Drafting Team has completed its work on protections at the Top Level, which has resulted in a Resolution by the GNSO Council of March, 26 (20120326-1). We would like to thank you for your co-operation during that phase of the work.
Please be advised that during yesterday's Council Meeting, Council asked the Drafting Team to continue its work in response to your request for protections at the Second Level. We will let you know once the Council has reviewed the Drafting Team's recommendations and invite you to work further with the GNSO Council.
--Wendy the Drafting Team has provided a recommendation to the GNSO Council and invite you to work with the group again in due course.
Best regards,
Am 11.05.2012 um 10:11 schrieb Stéphane Van Gelder:
So the message would be this?
The Drafting Team is continuing to work on the issue and will provide its recommendations back to the GNSO Council.
Stéphane Van Gelder Directeur Général / General manager INDOM Group NBT France ---------------- Head of Domain Operations Group NBT
Le 11 mai 2012 à 02:09, Taylor, David a écrit :
The Drafting Team should keep working in order to provide its recommendations back to the GNSO Council.
Willing and effective volunteers should be cherished.
David
David Taylor Partner Hogan Lovells International LLP 6 avenue Kléber 75116 Paris
Tel:+33 1 53 67 47 47 Fax:+33 1 53 67 47 48 Email:drd@hoganlovells.com www.hoganlovells.com
From: Neuman, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Neuman@neustar.us] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 11:47 PM To: Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com>; GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: RE: [council] IOC/RC
I disagreed with Mary’s suggestion on the chat and continue to for a number of reasons. First, implicit in Mary’s note is the notion that the Council has made the decision to abandon the Drafting Team approach, which is a notion I only advocated by the NCSG on the call.
Second, it sends the wrong message to the current Drafting Team and will make it next to impossible for the Drafting Team to get any work done between now and Prague. They will not want to do any work on the second level issues as they will believe that doing such work would be a waste of their time (Since the GNSO as a whole is “continuing to work” on the issue). That feeling has already been expressed by several members of the DT (prior to the GNSO Council call). There is a strong belief that any future work will be a waste of their volunteer time.
So, if we actually expect the DT to keep working on a response, which was what I clearly heard on the call, then let’s just state that the Drafting Team is continuing to work on the issue and will provide its recommendations back to the GNSO Council. If on the other hand the GNSO as a whole is willing to get on calls every two weeks and really work in earnest on the response, then I am fine with the message Mary suggests and I expect to see you all on the call next Wednesday as scheduled. I am fine with taking either approach…the Drafting Team works on it, or the GNSO as a whole works on its. But we can’t just state that the GNSO as a whole is working on it, and then it turns out no one actually does.
Thanks.
Jeffrey J. Neuman Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs
From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 3:50 PM To: GNSO Council List Subject: [council] IOC/RC
Councillors,
As discussed during today's call, I would like to ask the Council for clear direction on what next steps to take on the IOC/RC DT.
You will recall that on the call I suggested that we instruct the DT to continue its work and that a short message be sent to the GAC.
Mary had the following suggestion on the call:
Mary Wong: @Stephane, in view of the apparent confusion over the DT issue, can you respond to the GAC simply stating what the DT has done to date and indicating that the GNSO as a whole is continuing to work on the second level issue without specifically mentioning that the DT will be the group doing the work? And then including that question on the agenda for our next mtg?
Please add to this discussion so that we can determine what our next steps should be.
Thanks,
Stéphane Van Gelder Directeur Général / General manager INDOM Group NBT France ---------------- Head of Domain Operations Group NBT
Hogan Lovells (Paris) LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales with registered number OC353350, and is authorised and regulated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority of England and Wales. Registered office: Atlantic House, Holborn Viaduct, London EC1A 2FG. Hogan Lovells (Paris) LLP is an affiliated business of Hogan Lovells International LLP, a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales. "Hogan Lovells" is an international legal practice that includes Hogan Lovells International LLP, Hogan Lovells US LLP and their affiliated businesses. The word "partner" is used to describe a partner or member of Hogan Lovells International LLP, Hogan Lovells US LLP or any of their affiliated entities or any employee or consultant with equivalent standing. Certain individuals, who are designated as partners, but who are not members of Hogan Lovells International LLP, do not hold qualifications equivalent to members. For more information about Hogan Lovells, the partners and their qualifications, see www.hoganlovells.com.
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Hi Wendy, during the discussions about the first level, GAC representatives were invited to participate in calls of the DT so they might also be included before the recommendations have been reviewed by the Council. Thomas Am 11.05.2012 um 12:55 schrieb Wendy Seltzer:
On 05/11/2012 06:09 AM, Stéphane Van Gelder wrote:
Thanks Thomas.
Is everyone happy with this?
Suggested amendments below: Isn't the correct interface for the GAC is with GNSO Council, not Drafting Team? (This is independent of NCSG's preference that the Drafting Team activity be stopped altogether.)
Le 11 mai 2012 à 10:32, Thomas Rickert a écrit :
Stéphane, I would add a few more words. Please find my proposal below.
Thomas
Dear... with this message, we would like to give you an update on the status with respect to your request regarding protection of the the IOC / RCRC names.
As you know, the Drafting Team has completed its work on protections at the Top Level, which has resulted in a Resolution by the GNSO Council of March, 26 (20120326-1). We would like to thank you for your co-operation during that phase of the work.
Please be advised that during yesterday's Council Meeting, Council asked the Drafting Team to continue its work in response to your request for protections at the Second Level. We will let you know once the Council has reviewed the Drafting Team's recommendations and invite you to work further with the GNSO Council.
--Wendy
the Drafting Team has provided a recommendation to the GNSO Council and invite you to work with the group again in due course.
Best regards,
Am 11.05.2012 um 10:11 schrieb Stéphane Van Gelder:
So the message would be this?
The Drafting Team is continuing to work on the issue and will provide its recommendations back to the GNSO Council.
Stéphane Van Gelder Directeur Général / General manager INDOM Group NBT France ---------------- Head of Domain Operations Group NBT
Le 11 mai 2012 à 02:09, Taylor, David a écrit :
The Drafting Team should keep working in order to provide its recommendations back to the GNSO Council.
Willing and effective volunteers should be cherished.
David
David Taylor Partner Hogan Lovells International LLP 6 avenue Kléber 75116 Paris
Tel:+33 1 53 67 47 47 Fax:+33 1 53 67 47 48 Email:drd@hoganlovells.com www.hoganlovells.com
From: Neuman, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Neuman@neustar.us] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 11:47 PM To: Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@indom.com>; GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: RE: [council] IOC/RC
I disagreed with Mary’s suggestion on the chat and continue to for a number of reasons. First, implicit in Mary’s note is the notion that the Council has made the decision to abandon the Drafting Team approach, which is a notion I only advocated by the NCSG on the call.
Second, it sends the wrong message to the current Drafting Team and will make it next to impossible for the Drafting Team to get any work done between now and Prague. They will not want to do any work on the second level issues as they will believe that doing such work would be a waste of their time (Since the GNSO as a whole is “continuing to work” on the issue). That feeling has already been expressed by several members of the DT (prior to the GNSO Council call). There is a strong belief that any future work will be a waste of their volunteer time.
So, if we actually expect the DT to keep working on a response, which was what I clearly heard on the call, then let’s just state that the Drafting Team is continuing to work on the issue and will provide its recommendations back to the GNSO Council. If on the other hand the GNSO as a whole is willing to get on calls every two weeks and really work in earnest on the response, then I am fine with the message Mary suggests and I expect to see you all on the call next Wednesday as scheduled. I am fine with taking either approach…the Drafting Team works on it, or the GNSO as a whole works on its. But we can’t just state that the GNSO as a whole is working on it, and then it turns out no one actually does.
Thanks.
Jeffrey J. Neuman Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs
From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 3:50 PM To: GNSO Council List Subject: [council] IOC/RC
Councillors,
As discussed during today's call, I would like to ask the Council for clear direction on what next steps to take on the IOC/RC DT.
You will recall that on the call I suggested that we instruct the DT to continue its work and that a short message be sent to the GAC.
Mary had the following suggestion on the call:
Mary Wong: @Stephane, in view of the apparent confusion over the DT issue, can you respond to the GAC simply stating what the DT has done to date and indicating that the GNSO as a whole is continuing to work on the second level issue without specifically mentioning that the DT will be the group doing the work? And then including that question on the agenda for our next mtg?
Please add to this discussion so that we can determine what our next steps should be.
Thanks,
Stéphane Van Gelder Directeur Général / General manager INDOM Group NBT France ---------------- Head of Domain Operations Group NBT
Hogan Lovells (Paris) LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales with registered number OC353350, and is authorised and regulated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority of England and Wales. Registered office: Atlantic House, Holborn Viaduct, London EC1A 2FG. Hogan Lovells (Paris) LLP is an affiliated business of Hogan Lovells International LLP, a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales. "Hogan Lovells" is an international legal practice that includes Hogan Lovells International LLP, Hogan Lovells US LLP and their affiliated businesses. The word "partner" is used to describe a partner or member of Hogan Lovells International LLP, Hogan Lovells US LLP or any of their affiliated entities or any employee or consultant with equivalent standing. Certain individuals, who are designated as partners, but who are not members of Hogan Lovells International LLP, do not hold qualifications equivalent to members. For more information about Hogan Lovells, the partners and their qualifications, see www.hoganlovells.com.
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Büro / Office Bonn: Kaiserplatz 7-9, 53113 Bonn, Germany Phone: +49 (0)228 74 898 - 0
Büro / Office Frankfurt a.M.: Savignystraße 43, 60325 Frankfurt, Germany Phone: +49 (0)69 714 021 - 56
Zentralfax: +49 (0)228 74 898 - 66
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___________________________________________________________ Thomas Rickert, Rechtsanwalt Schollmeyer & Rickert Rechtsanwaltsgesellschaft m.b.H. (i.e. law firm) Geschäftsführer / CEO: Torsten Schollmeyer, Thomas Rickert HRB 9262, AG Bonn Büro / Office Bonn: Kaiserplatz 7-9, 53113 Bonn, Germany Phone: +49 (0)228 74 898 - 0 Büro / Office Frankfurt a.M.: Savignystraße 43, 60325 Frankfurt, Germany Phone: +49 (0)69 714 021 - 56 Zentralfax: +49 (0)228 74 898 - 66 mailto: rickert@anwaelte.de skype-id: trickert web: www.anwaelte.de
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Stéphane Van Gelder -
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Wendy Seltzer