Hi, Paul, Steve Chan has already done that: "Hello Council Volunteers, To aid in your review of the GAC Communique from Marrakech (https://gac.icann.org/contentMigrated/icann65-marrakech-communique), staff has set up the GNSO GAC Communique review template here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VCdaqiwfV6UE1uR0J-sFZysVFFIC-SDahmhk6Tg8.... Note that there is no new GAC Advice in this Communique, only Follow-Up on Previous Advice. As I understand, this is still considered GAC Advice." Julf SteveOn 30-06-19 17:32, McGrady, Paul D. wrote:

Thanks Julf.

Staff, would you mind kicking off an inaugural email to the handful of us who agreed to work on our response? Also, if you really want to spoil us, could you load the 3 pieces of advice into the usual template?

Thanks all!

Best, Paul

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The GAC communique is now online at https://gac.icann.org/contentMigrated/icann65-marrakech-communique

In my view, nothing that we really need to react on.

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Paul, all, Here is the link to the GNSO Council Review of: * The Abu Dhabi Communique that is referenced in relation to the topic .amazon: https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/review-gac... * The Kobe Communique that is referenced in relation to the topic of Whois and data protection: https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/review-gac... * The Barcelona Communique which also includes a list of the previous input provided by the GNSO Council on the topic of two character country codes at the second level: https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/review-gac... Also attached you will find the draft motion, please note that the deadline for the 18 July meeting is today – one of you may want to submit it as a placeholder while you work on the review? Best regards, Marika On 7/8/19, 13:35, "council on behalf of McGrady, Paul D." <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org on behalf of PMcGrady@taftlaw.com> wrote: Thanks Julf. Steve, could you please provide links to our prior communications on these issues? While the last column may need fresh content, I expect the others can be repopulated with much of the same content as before. I'm happy to pull that content forward into this new document. Best, Paul -----Original Message----- From: Johan Helsingius <julf@julf.com> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 10:52 AM To: McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com> Cc: council@gnso.icann.org Subject: Re: [council] GAC communique Hi, Paul, Steve Chan has already done that: "Hello Council Volunteers, To aid in your review of the GAC Communique from Marrakech (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gac.icann.org_contentMigrated_icann65-2Dmarrakech-2Dcommunique&d=DwICAg&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=4X-ptATIWmwJ4VtenNLrPgIK0h5Yg5a_6ZqenYr5tcU&s=_3jBpaiM_YBa9p7MEUXl_-_XXV04iWJeWpLLn--HJzY&e= ), staff has set up the GNSO GAC Communique review template here: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1VCdaqiwfV6UE1uR0J-2DsFZysVFFIC-2DSDahmhk6Tg8168_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwICAg&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=4X-ptATIWmwJ4VtenNLrPgIK0h5Yg5a_6ZqenYr5tcU&s=Zjwx7zpoK7gjhj8YlPyQi5b064Quh7_R8BYV7vj4kzc&e= . Note that there is no new GAC Advice in this Communique, only Follow-Up on Previous Advice. As I understand, this is still considered GAC Advice." Julf SteveOn 30-06-19 17:32, McGrady, Paul D. wrote: > Thanks Julf. > > Staff, would you mind kicking off an inaugural email to the handful of us who agreed to work on our response? Also, if you really want to spoil us, could you load the 3 pieces of advice into the usual template? > > Thanks all! > > Best, > Paul > > > > > > This message may contain information that is attorney-client privileged, attorney work product or otherwise confidential. If you are not an intended recipient, use and disclosure of this message are prohibited. If you received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. > > -----Original Message----- > From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> On Behalf Of Johan > Helsingius > Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 10:42 AM > To: council@gnso.icann.org > Subject: [council] GAC communique > > The GAC communique is now online at > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gac.icann.org_contentMigrated_icann65-2Dmarrakech-2Dcommunique&d=DwICAg&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=4X-ptATIWmwJ4VtenNLrPgIK0h5Yg5a_6ZqenYr5tcU&s=_3jBpaiM_YBa9p7MEUXl_-_XXV04iWJeWpLLn--HJzY&e= > > In my view, nothing that we really need to react on. > > Julf > _______________________________________________ > council mailing list > council@gnso.icann.org

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Thanks All. Please visit the link to the document. I have put in initial draft language for discussion. There isn’t much in this Communiqué, so our response is, I think appropriately, thin. Best, Paul From: Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org> Sent: Monday, July 8, 2019 7:44 AM To: McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>; Johan Helsingius <julf@julf.com> Cc: council@gnso.icann.org Subject: Re: [council] GAC communique Paul, all, Here is the link to the GNSO Council Review of: * The Abu Dhabi Communique that is referenced in relation to the topic .amazon: https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/review-gac... * The Kobe Communique that is referenced in relation to the topic of Whois and data protection: https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/review-gac... * The Barcelona Communique which also includes a list of the previous input provided by the GNSO Council on the topic of two character country codes at the second level: https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/review-gac... Also attached you will find the draft motion, please note that the deadline for the 18 July meeting is today – one of you may want to submit it as a placeholder while you work on the review? Best regards, Marika On 7/8/19, 13:35, "council on behalf of McGrady, Paul D." <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org on behalf of PMcGrady@taftlaw.com<mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org%20on%20behalf%20of%20PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>> wrote: Thanks Julf. Steve, could you please provide links to our prior communications on these issues? While the last column may need fresh content, I expect the others can be repopulated with much of the same content as before. I'm happy to pull that content forward into this new document. Best, Paul -----Original Message----- From: Johan Helsingius <julf@julf.com<mailto:julf@julf.com>> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 10:52 AM To: McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com<mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>> Cc: council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] GAC communique Hi, Paul, Steve Chan has already done that: "Hello Council Volunteers, To aid in your review of the GAC Communique from Marrakech (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gac.icann.org_contentMigrated_icann65-2Dmarrakech-2Dcommunique&d=DwICAg&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=4X-ptATIWmwJ4VtenNLrPgIK0h5Yg5a_6ZqenYr5tcU&s=_3jBpaiM_YBa9p7MEUXl_-_XXV04iWJeWpLLn--HJzY&e= ), staff has set up the GNSO GAC Communique review template here: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1VCdaqiwfV6UE1uR0J-2DsFZysVFFIC-2DSDahmhk6Tg8168_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwICAg&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=4X-ptATIWmwJ4VtenNLrPgIK0h5Yg5a_6ZqenYr5tcU&s=Zjwx7zpoK7gjhj8YlPyQi5b064Quh7_R8BYV7vj4kzc&e= . Note that there is no new GAC Advice in this Communique, only Follow-Up on Previous Advice. As I understand, this is still considered GAC Advice." Julf SteveOn 30-06-19 17:32, McGrady, Paul D. wrote: > Thanks Julf. > > Staff, would you mind kicking off an inaugural email to the handful of us who agreed to work on our response? Also, if you really want to spoil us, could you load the 3 pieces of advice into the usual template? > > Thanks all! > > Best, > Paul > > > > > > This message may contain information that is attorney-client privileged, attorney work product or otherwise confidential. If you are not an intended recipient, use and disclosure of this message are prohibited. If you received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. > > -----Original Message----- > From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>> On Behalf Of Johan > Helsingius > Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 10:42 AM > To: council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> > Subject: [council] GAC communique > > The GAC communique is now online at > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gac.icann.org_contentMigrated_icann65-2Dmarrakech-2Dcommunique&d=DwICAg&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=4X-ptATIWmwJ4VtenNLrPgIK0h5Yg5a_6ZqenYr5tcU&s=_3jBpaiM_YBa9p7MEUXl_-_XXV04iWJeWpLLn--HJzY&e= > > In my view, nothing that we really need to react on. > > Julf > _______________________________________________ > council mailing list > council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>

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Julf, Paul, Thanks for proposing text on this. I tend to agree with the idea of having a neutral approach on this along the lines of the Abu Dhabi comment, which we may just refer to wih Julf's suggested text. Since GAC's Marrakech Communiqué "should not be construed as new GAC Advice on this matter" as they say, our comment doesn't need to be new either. While I'm generally very concerned about the board not "caving in" to GAC's advice in the decision-making process, I don't see the need to "score points" when the decision's been taken. I know "welcoming the decision" is not meant like this, but it could be interpreted that way. Regards, Philippe -----Original Message----- From: council [mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Johan Helsingius Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 9:16 AM To: McGrady, Paul D. Cc: council@gnso.icann.org Subject: Re: [council] GAC communique Thanks, Paul! While I agree with the spirit, I am concerned that "The GNSO Council welcomes the Board’s recent decision to allow the .amazon application to proceed" and "The GNSO Council is of the view that ICANN has fully implemented the GAC’s Advice on this matter" might not be well received by some GAC members. Perhaps a more neutral "The GNSO Council doesn't have anything new to add to the previous information provided as responses to the Abu Dhabi, Kobe and Barcelona communiques"? Julf On 15-07-19 00:01, McGrady, Paul D. wrote:

Thanks All.  Please visit the link to the document.  I have put in initial draft language for discussion.  There isn’t much in this Communiqué, so our response is, I think appropriately, thin.

 

Best,

Paul

 

 

 

*From:*Marika Konings <marika.konings@icann.org> *Sent:* Monday, July 8, 2019 7:44 AM *To:* McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>; Johan Helsingius <julf@julf.com> *Cc:* council@gnso.icann.org *Subject:* Re: [council] GAC communique

 

Paul, all,

 

Here is the link to the GNSO Council Review of:

 

* The Abu Dhabi Communique that is referenced in relation to the topic .amazon: https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/review-gac... * The Kobe Communique that is referenced in relation to the topic of Whois and data protection: https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/review-gac... * The Barcelona Communique which also includes a list of the previous input provided by the GNSO Council on the topic of two character country codes at the second level: https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/review-gac...  

 

Also attached you will find the draft motion, please note that the deadline for the 18 July meeting is today – one of you may want to submit it as a placeholder while you work on the review?

 

Best regards,

 

Marika

 

On 7/8/19, 13:35, "council on behalf of McGrady, Paul D." <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org on behalf of PMcGrady@taftlaw.com <mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org%20on%20behalf%20of%20PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>> wrote:

 

    Thanks Julf.

   

    Steve, could you please provide links to our prior communications on these issues?  While the last column may need fresh content, I expect the others can be repopulated with much of the same content as before.  I'm happy to pull that content forward into this new document.

   

    Best,

    Paul

   

    

    

    -----Original Message-----

    From: Johan Helsingius <julf@julf.com <mailto:julf@julf.com>>

    Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 10:52 AM

    To: McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady@taftlaw.com <mailto:PMcGrady@taftlaw.com>>

    Cc: council@gnso.icann.org <mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>

    Subject: Re: [council] GAC communique

   

    Hi, Paul,

   

    Steve Chan has already done that:

   

    "Hello Council Volunteers,

   

    To aid in your review of the GAC Communique from Marrakech (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gac.icann.org_contentMigrated_icann65-2Dmarrakech-2Dcommunique&d=DwICAg&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=4X-ptATIWmwJ4VtenNLrPgIK0h5Yg5a_6ZqenYr5tcU&s=_3jBpaiM_YBa9p7MEUXl_-_XXV04iWJeWpLLn--HJzY&e= ),

    staff has set up the GNSO GAC Communique review template here:

    https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1VCdaqiwfV6UE1uR0J-2DsFZysVFFIC-2DSDahmhk6Tg8168_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwICAg&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=4X-ptATIWmwJ4VtenNLrPgIK0h5Yg5a_6ZqenYr5tcU&s=Zjwx7zpoK7gjhj8YlPyQi5b064Quh7_R8BYV7vj4kzc&e= .

   

    Note that there is no new GAC Advice in this Communique, only Follow-Up on Previous Advice. As I understand, this is still considered GAC Advice."

   

    Julf

   

    

    

    

    

    SteveOn 30-06-19 17:32, McGrady, Paul D. wrote:

    > Thanks Julf.

    >

    > Staff, would you mind kicking off an inaugural email to the handful of us who agreed to work on our response?  Also, if you really want to spoil us, could you load the 3 pieces of advice into the usual template?

    >

    > Thanks all!

    >

    > Best,

    > Paul

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    > Helsingius

    > Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 10:42 AM

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    > Subject: [council] GAC communique

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    > The GAC communique is now online at

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    > In my view, nothing that we really need to react on.

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