Thanks, both Bruce and Tim. I am sure the TF would be happy to invite Chris. We are also interested in inviting cc's from Latin America, so we can ask Chris for possible circulation of a request to the cc's from Latin America as well. That way, we will hear from several countries. I'll put this on the TF agenda tomorrow as another possible guest speaker for the next set of calls, which will have to probably be after Mar de Plata, given all that is on our plates. We also need to hear from governmental agencies about their uses and views, and we haven't gotten around to identifying that set of invitees yet. In the past, in WHOIS panels, etc., we have invites a range of consumer protection; privacy, law enforcement, etc. Tim, your point about transfers and its reliance on the email of the registrant is interesting. Does this show up in the report of the ICANN staff as one of the problem areas that is emerging/internally disputed transfers... sounds like perhaps the technical contact might be the ISP, for instance, and they do a transfer, and the actual registrant isn't informed, or doesn't agree, and then disputes? What a nightmare for the registrar! Maria, would you ask Tim Cole/Kurt Pritz when the report that Kurt discussed on the last Council call will be actually published? I know it wasn't quite final when he reported on it, but I assume is forthcoming... just useful to know of when to expect it. Thanks, MC -----Original Message----- From: owner-gnso-dow123@icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-dow123@icann.org] On Behalf Of Tim Ruiz Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 5:21 AM To: Bruce Tonkin Cc: Chris Disspain; gnso-dow123@gnso.icann.org; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: RE: [gnso-dow123] RE: [council] RE: WHOIS combined task force call 1 March 2005 I'd like to point out an issue with the current (new) transfer process that needs to be considered here. Right now, there is no requirement to display the email address of the Registrant in the Whois of gTLDs. So most gaining registrars use the email address of the Administrative Contact to confirm transfer requests. The problem we have seen, and I am sure others as well to one degree or another, is that even after a "good" transfer is completed (confirmed by the Administrative Contact), the Registrant sometimes comes forward and says they did not authorize it. Under the current policy, we have to reverse the transfer or risk going into a dispute that the gaining registrar will lose and pay for. Since the Registrant has ultimate authority over a transfer, and that makes sense, then their email address should at least be available to Registrars in any tiered access model. At least as long as the transfer policy is what it is. Tim -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [gnso-dow123] RE: [council] RE: WHOIS combined task force call 1 March 2005 From: "Bruce Tonkin" <Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au> Date: Sun, February 27, 2005 10:48 pm To: council@gnso.icann.org Cc: "Chris Disspain" <ceo@auda.org.au>, gnso-dow123@gnso.icann.org Hello Marilyn,

We are also still looking for cc's who use a form of tiered access.

The WHOIS task force may wish to invite Chris Disspain, the CEO of .au Domain Administration (auDA) which is the policy body for .au, to explain the mechanism used in Australia. au uses a tiered access structure. There are three tiers. (1) public access (see http://whois.ausregistry.com.au/ ), which provides the following information: Domain Name: Last Modified: Registrar ID: Registrar Name: Status: Registrant name: Registrant ID: Registrant ROID: Registrant Contact Name: Registrant Email: Tech ID: Tech Name: Tech Email: Name Server: Name Server IP: Name Server: Name Server IP: (2) Registrar access. A registrar can access the full records for the names under their management, and can also access other registry records, if the registrant provides them with an access password (auth_info). The access password is typically provided by a registrant that wishes to transfer to the registrar. The registrar is able to retrieve the full record as part of the process of authenticating the transfer request. (3) Law enforcement access. An Australian law enforcement agency may make a request to auDA for access to particular records in writing. auDA has full access to all records for this purpose. Regards, Bruce Tonkin Registrars representative on the GNSO Council