FW: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010
Please note the suggestion in item b below from Olof. It seems like a good solution to me but I would like feedback from Councilors in consultation with your respective groups. This of course is time sensitive so please respond right away as possible. Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Olof Nordling [mailto:olof.nordling@icann.org] Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:09 AM To: Gomes, Chuck; William Drake Cc: Glen de Saint Géry; Council GNSO; soac-discussion@icann.org; Alice Jansen; Donna Austin Subject: RE: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010 Chuck, I think you know that this change occurred with the best of intentions and that there was a technical mishap in the necessarily short time frame for the attempted, but derailed, consultation. That aside, I did the call and I take the blame for the unintended consequences. Now, how can we best redress the situation? a) Is the suggested correction of the announcement the best way to go? b) If not, counting 45 days from 29 July gives 12 September as delivery date for the GNSO endorsed candidate list. In my response to you about the 45 days, I used the phrase "best effort" regarding the end of August deadline. Although certainly putting a squeeze on the sequence of events to precede the launch deadline, I think that is doable, the selectors agendas so permitting. Please advice on the above. Thanks Olof -----Original Message----- From: Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@verisign.com] Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 4:24 PM To: Olof Nordling; William Drake Cc: Glen de Saint Géry; Council GNSO; soac-discussion@icann.org; Alice Jansen; Donna Austin Subject: RE: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010 Olof, Holding off is the right thing to do Olof. I was trying to stop the confusion as quickly as possible but that didn't work. It is critical that a decision like this never be handled in this manner again. And it is totally unreasonable to expect the GNSO to compact an already cramped process into an even shorter time frame without concurrence from the GNSO. I agree with others that extensions are common and generally good but doing so without comparable extensions for other deadlines should not happen without agreement that those impacted can live with the changes. I had specifically requested 45 days for GNSO processes and that was granted. Moreover, the process the Council approved was fully public so it should not come as a surprise that we required time to implement our endorsement process. Unfortunately, all that seemed to be completely ignored in the decision to extend without extending the corresponding deadline for SO/AC endorsements. Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: Olof Nordling [mailto:olof.nordling@icann.org] Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 5:55 AM To: William Drake Cc: Gomes, Chuck; Glen de Saint Géry; Council GNSO; soac- discussion@icann.org; Alice Jansen; Donna Austin Subject: RE: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010
Hi Bill, Certainly, I'll hold it until notified. Best Olof
-----Original Message----- From: William Drake [mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch] Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:47 AM To: Olof Nordling Cc: Gomes, Chuck; Glen de Saint Géry; Council GNSO; soac- discussion@icann.org; Alice Jansen; Donna Austin Subject: Re: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010
Hi Olof
On Jul 16, 2010, at 11:32 AM, Olof Nordling wrote:
Dear Chuck, It so happens that there is an error in the recently posted
announcement - it still displays on the front page with a deadline of 15 July - so we need to make a correction anyway. I suggest that we in this correction explicitly and clearly exclude GNSO applications from the extension. Would that be satisfactory? We could also make an additional announcement stating that "Call for GNSO applications is closed", if you prefer.
While I've not had time to poll everyone it's a fair bet that as much as half the council is opposed to the exclusion, so could you please hold off until we come to an understanding on how to proceed?
Thanks,
Bill
I also copy this to the SOAC list (that should work now, I've been
assured).
Very best regards Olof
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-
council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 11:19 PM To: Glen de Saint Géry; Council GNSO Subject: RE: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010 Importance: High
Unless further notified to the contrary, this extension will not apply to GNSO candidates. The deadline for candidates requesting GNSO endorsements remains today, 15 July. I have been told that the GNSO must still provide its endorsements by the end of August; we were already in a time crunch for implementing our process, it would be impossible to follow the approved process with this extension or probably for any extension.
I apologize for any confusion this may create, but as long as our endorsements are due by the end of August, I see no other alternative.
Chuck Gomes GNSO Council Chair
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner- council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Glen de Saint Géry Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:37 PM To: Council GNSO Subject: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010
http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-01jun10-en.htm
EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member
- Review Team 2: Security, Stability and Resiliency of the DNS - - Review Team 4: WHOIS Policy -
Updated: 15 July 2010 13 July 2010 1 July 2010 1 June 2010
Deadline: 15 July 2010 - 23.59 UTC
Extended to: 29 July 2010 - 23.59 UTC
The Affirmation of Commitments calls for a periodic review of four key ICANN objectives, namely:
1. Ensuring accountability, transparency and the interests of global Internet users; 2. Preserving security, stability and resiliency of the DNS; 3. Promoting competition, consumer trust and consumer choice; 4. WHOIS policy.
Affirmation reviews are to be performed by Review Teams composed of volunteer community Members representing the relevant Supporting Organizations and Advisory Committees of ICANN. Please refer to the Affirmation Reviews web space for full reference.
ICANN now invites interested individuals to apply for a position of volunteer Review Team Member on the following Review Teams:
* Preserving security, stability and resiliency of the DNS; * WHOIS policy.
This call is solely intended for interested individuals who wish to apply in representation of a Supporting Organization (SO) or Advisory Committee (AC). Candidatures to serve as independent experts will not be considered.
Please download the full text of this Call for Applicants [PDF, 101 KB], which contains further instructions and information on the application procedure for interested candidates.
Interested candidates, please submit your CV, letter of motivation and SO/AC requirements (if applicable) to rtcandidatures@icann.org by 29 July 2010 - 23:59 UTC. SO/AC requirements may be found at: http://www.icann.org/en/reviews/affirmation/call-for-applicants-2- and- 4-en.htm
Launch dates and deadlines:
* 29 July 2010 --> Publication of the list of volunteers * End of August 2010 --> Endorsement by SO/ACs * First week of September 2010 --> Selectors announce the RT Members
Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org
*********************************************************** William J. Drake Senior Associate Centre for International Governance Graduate Institute of International and Development Studies Geneva, Switzerland william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch www.graduateinstitute.ch/cig/drake.html www.linkedin.com/in/williamjdrake ***********************************************************
Chuck I would be fine with Olaf's solution but I'm a Noncom appointee. This is really an SO/AC impacting issue thus their elected Councilor's views are the important ones for you to consider, not mine. Take care Terry -----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 8:33 AM To: Council GNSO Subject: FW: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010 Please note the suggestion in item b below from Olof. It seems like a good solution to me but I would like feedback from Councilors in consultation with your respective groups. This of course is time sensitive so please respond right away as possible. Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Olof Nordling [mailto:olof.nordling@icann.org] Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:09 AM To: Gomes, Chuck; William Drake Cc: Glen de Saint Géry; Council GNSO; soac-discussion@icann.org; Alice Jansen; Donna Austin Subject: RE: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010 Chuck, I think you know that this change occurred with the best of intentions and that there was a technical mishap in the necessarily short time frame for the attempted, but derailed, consultation. That aside, I did the call and I take the blame for the unintended consequences. Now, how can we best redress the situation? a) Is the suggested correction of the announcement the best way to go? b) If not, counting 45 days from 29 July gives 12 September as delivery date for the GNSO endorsed candidate list. In my response to you about the 45 days, I used the phrase "best effort" regarding the end of August deadline. Although certainly putting a squeeze on the sequence of events to precede the launch deadline, I think that is doable, the selectors agendas so permitting. Please advice on the above. Thanks Olof -----Original Message----- From: Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@verisign.com] Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 4:24 PM To: Olof Nordling; William Drake Cc: Glen de Saint Géry; Council GNSO; soac-discussion@icann.org; Alice Jansen; Donna Austin Subject: RE: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010 Olof, Holding off is the right thing to do Olof. I was trying to stop the confusion as quickly as possible but that didn't work. It is critical that a decision like this never be handled in this manner again. And it is totally unreasonable to expect the GNSO to compact an already cramped process into an even shorter time frame without concurrence from the GNSO. I agree with others that extensions are common and generally good but doing so without comparable extensions for other deadlines should not happen without agreement that those impacted can live with the changes. I had specifically requested 45 days for GNSO processes and that was granted. Moreover, the process the Council approved was fully public so it should not come as a surprise that we required time to implement our endorsement process. Unfortunately, all that seemed to be completely ignored in the decision to extend without extending the corresponding deadline for SO/AC endorsements. Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: Olof Nordling [mailto:olof.nordling@icann.org] Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 5:55 AM To: William Drake Cc: Gomes, Chuck; Glen de Saint Géry; Council GNSO; soac- discussion@icann.org; Alice Jansen; Donna Austin Subject: RE: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010
Hi Bill, Certainly, I'll hold it until notified. Best Olof
-----Original Message----- From: William Drake [mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch] Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:47 AM To: Olof Nordling Cc: Gomes, Chuck; Glen de Saint Géry; Council GNSO; soac- discussion@icann.org; Alice Jansen; Donna Austin Subject: Re: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010
Hi Olof
On Jul 16, 2010, at 11:32 AM, Olof Nordling wrote:
Dear Chuck, It so happens that there is an error in the recently posted
announcement - it still displays on the front page with a deadline of 15 July - so we need to make a correction anyway. I suggest that we in this correction explicitly and clearly exclude GNSO applications from the extension. Would that be satisfactory? We could also make an additional announcement stating that "Call for GNSO applications is closed", if you prefer.
While I've not had time to poll everyone it's a fair bet that as much as half the council is opposed to the exclusion, so could you please hold off until we come to an understanding on how to proceed?
Thanks,
Bill
I also copy this to the SOAC list (that should work now, I've been
assured).
Very best regards Olof
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-
council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 11:19 PM To: Glen de Saint Géry; Council GNSO Subject: RE: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010 Importance: High
Unless further notified to the contrary, this extension will not apply to GNSO candidates. The deadline for candidates requesting GNSO endorsements remains today, 15 July. I have been told that the GNSO must still provide its endorsements by the end of August; we were already in a time crunch for implementing our process, it would be impossible to follow the approved process with this extension or probably for any extension.
I apologize for any confusion this may create, but as long as our endorsements are due by the end of August, I see no other alternative.
Chuck Gomes GNSO Council Chair
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner- council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Glen de Saint Géry Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:37 PM To: Council GNSO Subject: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010
http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-01jun10-en.htm
EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member
- Review Team 2: Security, Stability and Resiliency of the DNS - - Review Team 4: WHOIS Policy -
Updated: 15 July 2010 13 July 2010 1 July 2010 1 June 2010
Deadline: 15 July 2010 - 23.59 UTC
Extended to: 29 July 2010 - 23.59 UTC
The Affirmation of Commitments calls for a periodic review of four key ICANN objectives, namely:
1. Ensuring accountability, transparency and the interests of global Internet users; 2. Preserving security, stability and resiliency of the DNS; 3. Promoting competition, consumer trust and consumer choice; 4. WHOIS policy.
Affirmation reviews are to be performed by Review Teams composed of volunteer community Members representing the relevant Supporting Organizations and Advisory Committees of ICANN. Please refer to the Affirmation Reviews web space for full reference.
ICANN now invites interested individuals to apply for a position of volunteer Review Team Member on the following Review Teams:
* Preserving security, stability and resiliency of the DNS; * WHOIS policy.
This call is solely intended for interested individuals who wish to apply in representation of a Supporting Organization (SO) or Advisory Committee (AC). Candidatures to serve as independent experts will not be considered.
Please download the full text of this Call for Applicants [PDF, 101 KB], which contains further instructions and information on the application procedure for interested candidates.
Interested candidates, please submit your CV, letter of motivation and SO/AC requirements (if applicable) to rtcandidatures@icann.org by 29 July 2010 - 23:59 UTC. SO/AC requirements may be found at: http://www.icann.org/en/reviews/affirmation/call-for-applicants-2- and- 4-en.htm
Launch dates and deadlines:
* 29 July 2010 --> Publication of the list of volunteers * End of August 2010 --> Endorsement by SO/ACs * First week of September 2010 --> Selectors announce the RT Members
Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org
*********************************************************** William J. Drake Senior Associate Centre for International Governance Graduate Institute of International and Development Studies Geneva, Switzerland william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch www.graduateinstitute.ch/cig/drake.html www.linkedin.com/in/williamjdrake ***********************************************************
I have received very little feedback on the following. Is anyone opposed to the extension of the GNSO endorsement deadline to 12 September instead of 31 August? If I do not see any objections by the end of the day on Tuesday, 19 July, I will communicate with Olof that this seems like a workable plan and see if we can get official approval of it. Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner- council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:33 AM To: Council GNSO Subject: FW: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010
Please note the suggestion in item b below from Olof. It seems like a good solution to me but I would like feedback from Councilors in consultation with your respective groups. This of course is time sensitive so please respond right away as possible.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: Olof Nordling [mailto:olof.nordling@icann.org] Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:09 AM To: Gomes, Chuck; William Drake Cc: Glen de Saint Géry; Council GNSO; soac-discussion@icann.org; Alice Jansen; Donna Austin Subject: RE: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010
Chuck, I think you know that this change occurred with the best of intentions and that there was a technical mishap in the necessarily short time frame for the attempted, but derailed, consultation. That aside, I did the call and I take the blame for the unintended consequences.
Now, how can we best redress the situation?
a) Is the suggested correction of the announcement the best way to go?
b) If not, counting 45 days from 29 July gives 12 September as delivery date for the GNSO endorsed candidate list. In my response to you about the 45 days, I used the phrase "best effort" regarding the end of August deadline. Although certainly putting a squeeze on the sequence of events to precede the launch deadline, I think that is doable, the selectors agendas so permitting.
Please advice on the above. Thanks Olof
-----Original Message----- From: Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@verisign.com] Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 4:24 PM To: Olof Nordling; William Drake Cc: Glen de Saint Géry; Council GNSO; soac-discussion@icann.org; Alice Jansen; Donna Austin Subject: RE: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010
Olof,
Holding off is the right thing to do Olof. I was trying to stop the confusion as quickly as possible but that didn't work.
It is critical that a decision like this never be handled in this manner again. And it is totally unreasonable to expect the GNSO to compact an already cramped process into an even shorter time frame without concurrence from the GNSO. I agree with others that extensions are common and generally good but doing so without comparable extensions for other deadlines should not happen without agreement that those impacted can live with the changes.
I had specifically requested 45 days for GNSO processes and that was granted. Moreover, the process the Council approved was fully public so it should not come as a surprise that we required time to implement our endorsement process. Unfortunately, all that seemed to be completely ignored in the decision to extend without extending the corresponding deadline for SO/AC endorsements.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: Olof Nordling [mailto:olof.nordling@icann.org] Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 5:55 AM To: William Drake Cc: Gomes, Chuck; Glen de Saint Géry; Council GNSO; soac- discussion@icann.org; Alice Jansen; Donna Austin Subject: RE: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010
Hi Bill, Certainly, I'll hold it until notified. Best Olof
-----Original Message----- From: William Drake [mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch] Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:47 AM To: Olof Nordling Cc: Gomes, Chuck; Glen de Saint Géry; Council GNSO; soac- discussion@icann.org; Alice Jansen; Donna Austin Subject: Re: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010
Hi Olof
On Jul 16, 2010, at 11:32 AM, Olof Nordling wrote:
Dear Chuck, It so happens that there is an error in the recently posted
announcement - it still displays on the front page with a deadline of 15 July - so we need to make a correction anyway. I suggest that we in this correction explicitly and clearly exclude GNSO applications from the extension. Would that be satisfactory? We could also make an additional announcement stating that "Call for GNSO applications is closed", if you prefer.
While I've not had time to poll everyone it's a fair bet that as much as half the council is opposed to the exclusion, so could you please hold off until we come to an understanding on how to proceed?
Thanks,
Bill
I also copy this to the SOAC list (that should work now, I've been
assured).
Very best regards Olof
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-
council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 11:19 PM To: Glen de Saint Géry; Council GNSO Subject: RE: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010 Importance: High
Unless further notified to the contrary, this extension will not apply to GNSO candidates. The deadline for candidates requesting GNSO endorsements remains today, 15 July. I have been told that the GNSO must still provide its endorsements by the end of August; we were already in a time crunch for implementing our process, it would be impossible to follow the approved process with this extension or probably for any extension.
I apologize for any confusion this may create, but as long as our endorsements are due by the end of August, I see no other alternative.
Chuck Gomes GNSO Council Chair
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner- council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Glen de Saint Géry Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:37 PM To: Council GNSO Subject: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010
http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-01jun10-en.htm
EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member
- Review Team 2: Security, Stability and Resiliency of the DNS - - Review Team 4: WHOIS Policy -
Updated: 15 July 2010 13 July 2010 1 July 2010 1 June 2010
Deadline: 15 July 2010 - 23.59 UTC
Extended to: 29 July 2010 - 23.59 UTC
The Affirmation of Commitments calls for a periodic review of four key ICANN objectives, namely:
1. Ensuring accountability, transparency and the interests of global Internet users; 2. Preserving security, stability and resiliency of the DNS; 3. Promoting competition, consumer trust and consumer choice; 4. WHOIS policy.
Affirmation reviews are to be performed by Review Teams composed of volunteer community Members representing the relevant Supporting Organizations and Advisory Committees of ICANN. Please refer to the Affirmation Reviews web space for full reference.
ICANN now invites interested individuals to apply for a position of volunteer Review Team Member on the following Review Teams:
* Preserving security, stability and resiliency of the DNS; * WHOIS policy.
This call is solely intended for interested individuals who wish to apply in representation of a Supporting Organization (SO) or Advisory Committee (AC). Candidatures to serve as independent experts will not be considered.
Please download the full text of this Call for Applicants [PDF, 101 KB], which contains further instructions and information on the application procedure for interested candidates.
Interested candidates, please submit your CV, letter of motivation and SO/AC requirements (if applicable) to rtcandidatures@icann.org by 29 July 2010 - 23:59 UTC. SO/AC requirements may be found at: http://www.icann.org/en/reviews/affirmation/call-for-applicants-2- and- 4-en.htm
Launch dates and deadlines:
* 29 July 2010 --> Publication of the list of volunteers * End of August 2010 --> Endorsement by SO/ACs * First week of September 2010 --> Selectors announce the RT Members
Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org
*********************************************************** William J. Drake Senior Associate Centre for International Governance Graduate Institute of International and Development Studies Geneva, Switzerland william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch www.graduateinstitute.ch/cig/drake.html www.linkedin.com/in/williamjdrake ***********************************************************
Chuck, that could be accepted but should also be communicated as "conditio sine qua non" meaning it being essential for the SG and GNSO evaluation process having the time available as agreed before. Thanks and best regards Wolf-Ulrich -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] Im Auftrag von Gomes, Chuck Gesendet: Dienstag, 20. Juli 2010 00:37 An: Gomes, Chuck; Council GNSO Betreff: RE: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010 I have received very little feedback on the following. Is anyone opposed to the extension of the GNSO endorsement deadline to 12 September instead of 31 August? If I do not see any objections by the end of the day on Tuesday, 19 July, I will communicate with Olof that this seems like a workable plan and see if we can get official approval of it. Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner- council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:33 AM To: Council GNSO Subject: FW: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010
Please note the suggestion in item b below from Olof. It seems like a good solution to me but I would like feedback from Councilors in consultation with your respective groups. This of course is time sensitive so please respond right away as possible.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: Olof Nordling [mailto:olof.nordling@icann.org] Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:09 AM To: Gomes, Chuck; William Drake Cc: Glen de Saint Géry; Council GNSO; soac-discussion@icann.org; Alice Jansen; Donna Austin Subject: RE: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010
Chuck, I think you know that this change occurred with the best of intentions and that there was a technical mishap in the necessarily short time frame for the attempted, but derailed, consultation. That aside, I did the call and I take the blame for the unintended consequences.
Now, how can we best redress the situation?
a) Is the suggested correction of the announcement the best way to go?
b) If not, counting 45 days from 29 July gives 12 September as delivery date for the GNSO endorsed candidate list. In my response to you about the 45 days, I used the phrase "best effort" regarding the end of August deadline. Although certainly putting a squeeze on the sequence of events to precede the launch deadline, I think that is doable, the selectors agendas so permitting.
Please advice on the above. Thanks Olof
-----Original Message----- From: Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@verisign.com] Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 4:24 PM To: Olof Nordling; William Drake Cc: Glen de Saint Géry; Council GNSO; soac-discussion@icann.org; Alice Jansen; Donna Austin Subject: RE: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010
Olof,
Holding off is the right thing to do Olof. I was trying to stop the confusion as quickly as possible but that didn't work.
It is critical that a decision like this never be handled in this manner again. And it is totally unreasonable to expect the GNSO to compact an already cramped process into an even shorter time frame without concurrence from the GNSO. I agree with others that extensions are common and generally good but doing so without comparable extensions for other deadlines should not happen without agreement that those impacted can live with the changes.
I had specifically requested 45 days for GNSO processes and that was granted. Moreover, the process the Council approved was fully public so it should not come as a surprise that we required time to implement our endorsement process. Unfortunately, all that seemed to be completely ignored in the decision to extend without extending the corresponding deadline for SO/AC endorsements.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: Olof Nordling [mailto:olof.nordling@icann.org] Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 5:55 AM To: William Drake Cc: Gomes, Chuck; Glen de Saint Géry; Council GNSO; soac- discussion@icann.org; Alice Jansen; Donna Austin Subject: RE: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010
Hi Bill, Certainly, I'll hold it until notified. Best Olof
-----Original Message----- From: William Drake [mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch] Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:47 AM To: Olof Nordling Cc: Gomes, Chuck; Glen de Saint Géry; Council GNSO; soac- discussion@icann.org; Alice Jansen; Donna Austin Subject: Re: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010
Hi Olof
On Jul 16, 2010, at 11:32 AM, Olof Nordling wrote:
Dear Chuck, It so happens that there is an error in the recently posted
announcement - it still displays on the front page with a deadline of 15 July - so we need to make a correction anyway. I suggest that we in this correction explicitly and clearly exclude GNSO applications from the extension. Would that be satisfactory? We could also make an additional announcement stating that "Call for GNSO applications is closed", if you prefer.
While I've not had time to poll everyone it's a fair bet that as much as half the council is opposed to the exclusion, so could you please hold off until we come to an understanding on how to proceed?
Thanks,
Bill
I also copy this to the SOAC list (that should work now, I've been
assured).
Very best regards Olof
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-
council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 11:19 PM To: Glen de Saint Géry; Council GNSO Subject: RE: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010 Importance: High
Unless further notified to the contrary, this extension will not apply to GNSO candidates. The deadline for candidates requesting GNSO endorsements remains today, 15 July. I have been told that the GNSO must still provide its endorsements by the end of August; we were already in a time crunch for implementing our process, it would be impossible to follow the approved process with this extension or probably for any extension.
I apologize for any confusion this may create, but as long as our endorsements are due by the end of August, I see no other alternative.
Chuck Gomes GNSO Council Chair
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner- council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Glen de Saint Géry Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:37 PM To: Council GNSO Subject: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010
http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-01jun10-en.htm
EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member
- Review Team 2: Security, Stability and Resiliency of the DNS - - Review Team 4: WHOIS Policy -
Updated: 15 July 2010 13 July 2010 1 July 2010 1 June 2010
Deadline: 15 July 2010 - 23.59 UTC
Extended to: 29 July 2010 - 23.59 UTC
The Affirmation of Commitments calls for a periodic review of four key ICANN objectives, namely:
1. Ensuring accountability, transparency and the interests of global Internet users; 2. Preserving security, stability and resiliency of the DNS; 3. Promoting competition, consumer trust and consumer choice; 4. WHOIS policy.
Affirmation reviews are to be performed by Review Teams composed of volunteer community Members representing the relevant Supporting Organizations and Advisory Committees of ICANN. Please refer to the Affirmation Reviews web space for full reference.
ICANN now invites interested individuals to apply for a position of volunteer Review Team Member on the following Review Teams:
* Preserving security, stability and resiliency of the DNS; * WHOIS policy.
This call is solely intended for interested individuals who wish to apply in representation of a Supporting Organization (SO) or Advisory Committee (AC). Candidatures to serve as independent experts will not be considered.
Please download the full text of this Call for Applicants [PDF, 101 KB], which contains further instructions and information on the application procedure for interested candidates.
Interested candidates, please submit your CV, letter of motivation and SO/AC requirements (if applicable) to rtcandidatures@icann.org by 29 July 2010 - 23:59 UTC. SO/AC requirements may be found at: http://www.icann.org/en/reviews/affirmation/call-for-applicants-2- and- 4-en.htm
Launch dates and deadlines:
* 29 July 2010 --> Publication of the list of volunteers * End of August 2010 --> Endorsement by SO/ACs * First week of September 2010 --> Selectors announce the RT Members
Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org
*********************************************************** William J. Drake Senior Associate Centre for International Governance Graduate Institute of International and Development Studies Geneva, Switzerland william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch www.graduateinstitute.ch/cig/drake.html www.linkedin.com/in/williamjdrake ***********************************************************
Thanks Wolf. Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: KnobenW@telekom.de [mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de] Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 3:57 PM To: Gomes, Chuck; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: AW: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010
Chuck,
that could be accepted but should also be communicated as "conditio sine qua non" meaning it being essential for the SG and GNSO evaluation process having the time available as agreed before.
Thanks and best regards Wolf-Ulrich
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] Im Auftrag von Gomes, Chuck Gesendet: Dienstag, 20. Juli 2010 00:37 An: Gomes, Chuck; Council GNSO Betreff: RE: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010
I have received very little feedback on the following. Is anyone opposed to the extension of the GNSO endorsement deadline to 12 September instead of 31 August? If I do not see any objections by the end of the day on Tuesday, 19 July, I will communicate with Olof that this seems like a workable plan and see if we can get official approval of it.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner- council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:33 AM To: Council GNSO Subject: FW: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010
Please note the suggestion in item b below from Olof. It seems like a good solution to me but I would like feedback from Councilors in consultation with your respective groups. This of course is time sensitive so please respond right away as possible.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: Olof Nordling [mailto:olof.nordling@icann.org] Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:09 AM To: Gomes, Chuck; William Drake Cc: Glen de Saint Géry; Council GNSO; soac-discussion@icann.org; Alice Jansen; Donna Austin Subject: RE: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010
Chuck, I think you know that this change occurred with the best of intentions and that there was a technical mishap in the necessarily short time frame for the attempted, but derailed, consultation. That aside, I did the call and I take the blame for the unintended consequences.
Now, how can we best redress the situation?
a) Is the suggested correction of the announcement the best way to go?
b) If not, counting 45 days from 29 July gives 12 September as delivery date for the GNSO endorsed candidate list. In my response to you about the 45 days, I used the phrase "best effort" regarding the end of August deadline. Although certainly putting a squeeze on the sequence of events to precede the launch deadline, I think that is doable, the selectors agendas so permitting.
Please advice on the above. Thanks Olof
-----Original Message----- From: Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@verisign.com] Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 4:24 PM To: Olof Nordling; William Drake Cc: Glen de Saint Géry; Council GNSO; soac-discussion@icann.org; Alice Jansen; Donna Austin Subject: RE: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010
Olof,
Holding off is the right thing to do Olof. I was trying to stop the confusion as quickly as possible but that didn't work.
It is critical that a decision like this never be handled in this manner again. And it is totally unreasonable to expect the GNSO to compact an already cramped process into an even shorter time frame without concurrence from the GNSO. I agree with others that extensions are common and generally good but doing so without comparable extensions for other deadlines should not happen without agreement that those impacted can live with the changes.
I had specifically requested 45 days for GNSO processes and that was granted. Moreover, the process the Council approved was fully public so it should not come as a surprise that we required time to implement our endorsement process. Unfortunately, all that seemed to be completely ignored in the decision to extend without extending the corresponding deadline for SO/AC endorsements.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: Olof Nordling [mailto:olof.nordling@icann.org] Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 5:55 AM To: William Drake Cc: Gomes, Chuck; Glen de Saint Géry; Council GNSO; soac- discussion@icann.org; Alice Jansen; Donna Austin Subject: RE: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010
Hi Bill, Certainly, I'll hold it until notified. Best Olof
-----Original Message----- From: William Drake [mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch] Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:47 AM To: Olof Nordling Cc: Gomes, Chuck; Glen de Saint Géry; Council GNSO; soac- discussion@icann.org; Alice Jansen; Donna Austin Subject: Re: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010
Hi Olof
On Jul 16, 2010, at 11:32 AM, Olof Nordling wrote:
Dear Chuck, It so happens that there is an error in the recently posted
announcement - it still displays on the front page with a deadline of 15 July - so we need to make a correction anyway. I suggest that we in this correction explicitly and clearly exclude GNSO applications from the extension. Would that be satisfactory? We could also make an additional announcement stating that "Call for GNSO applications is closed", if you prefer.
While I've not had time to poll everyone it's a fair bet that as much as half the council is opposed to the exclusion, so could you please hold off until we come to an understanding on how to proceed?
Thanks,
Bill
I also copy this to the SOAC list (that should work now, I've
been assured).
Very best regards Olof
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-
council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 11:19 PM To: Glen de Saint Géry; Council GNSO Subject: RE: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010 Importance: High
Unless further notified to the contrary, this extension will not apply to GNSO candidates. The deadline for candidates requesting GNSO endorsements remains today, 15 July. I have been told that the GNSO must still provide its endorsements by the end of August; we were already in a time crunch for implementing our process, it would be impossible to follow the approved process with this extension or probably for any extension.
I apologize for any confusion this may create, but as long as our endorsements are due by the end of August, I see no other alternative.
Chuck Gomes GNSO Council Chair
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner- council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Glen de Saint Géry Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:37 PM To: Council GNSO Subject: [council] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010
http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-01jun10- en.htm
EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member
- Review Team 2: Security, Stability and Resiliency of the DNS - - Review Team 4: WHOIS Policy -
Updated: 15 July 2010 13 July 2010 1 July 2010 1 June 2010
Deadline: 15 July 2010 - 23.59 UTC
Extended to: 29 July 2010 - 23.59 UTC
The Affirmation of Commitments calls for a periodic review of four key ICANN objectives, namely:
1. Ensuring accountability, transparency and the interests of global Internet users; 2. Preserving security, stability and resiliency of the DNS; 3. Promoting competition, consumer trust and consumer choice; 4. WHOIS policy.
Affirmation reviews are to be performed by Review Teams composed of volunteer community Members representing the relevant Supporting Organizations and Advisory Committees of ICANN. Please refer to the Affirmation Reviews web space for full reference.
ICANN now invites interested individuals to apply for a position of volunteer Review Team Member on the following Review Teams:
* Preserving security, stability and resiliency of the DNS; * WHOIS policy.
This call is solely intended for interested individuals who wish to apply in representation of a Supporting Organization (SO) or Advisory Committee (AC). Candidatures to serve as independent experts will not be considered.
Please download the full text of this Call for Applicants [PDF, 101 KB], which contains further instructions and information on the application procedure for interested candidates.
Interested candidates, please submit your CV, letter of motivation and SO/AC requirements (if applicable) to rtcandidatures@icann.org by 29 July 2010 - 23:59 UTC. SO/AC requirements may be found at: http://www.icann.org/en/reviews/affirmation/call-for-applicants- 2- and- 4-en.htm
Launch dates and deadlines:
* 29 July 2010 --> Publication of the list of volunteers * End of August 2010 --> Endorsement by SO/ACs * First week of September 2010 --> Selectors announce the RT Members
Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org
*********************************************************** William J. Drake Senior Associate Centre for International Governance Graduate Institute of International and Development Studies Geneva, Switzerland william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch www.graduateinstitute.ch/cig/drake.html www.linkedin.com/in/williamjdrake ***********************************************************
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