Election of GNSO Council chair
Hello All, The current term of the GNSO Council chair expires on 18 November 2005. Given that new Council members take up their appointments after the annual general meeting each year, it would seem to me to make more sense to elect the GNSO Council chair after each AGM. I recommend the Council consider appointing a person as GNSO Council chair for a 1 month term: 18 Nov 2005 to 18 Dec 2005, and then after the AGM, the Council appoints a person for a 12 month term. This will then hopefully better align terms of the GNSO Council chair with the cycle of elections to the GNSO Council and the cycle of ICANN AGMs. Regards, Bruce Tonkin
I support making an interim determination of chair, and nominate Bruce Tonkin for the interim chair for the period of 18 Nov - 18 Dec. I further propose that Council make the necessary modification to align elections with the AGM. It would be helpful if staff might offer us a draft resolution with that language for such a change. I think though, that the language is "elect a chair for a 12 month period" for that document. I then offer a proposal that we announce when the nomination process would be open for the nomination of chair for the one year term. Marilyn -----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Tonkin Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 10:54 AM To: council@gnso.icann.org Subject: [council] Election of GNSO Council chair Hello All, The current term of the GNSO Council chair expires on 18 November 2005. Given that new Council members take up their appointments after the annual general meeting each year, it would seem to me to make more sense to elect the GNSO Council chair after each AGM. I recommend the Council consider appointing a person as GNSO Council chair for a 1 month term: 18 Nov 2005 to 18 Dec 2005, and then after the AGM, the Council appoints a person for a 12 month term. This will then hopefully better align terms of the GNSO Council chair with the cycle of elections to the GNSO Council and the cycle of ICANN AGMs. Regards, Bruce Tonkin
Hello All: As someone that serves on the ICANN Board Meetings Committee, it is difficult to peg the exact date of the ICANN annual meeting. In Tunisia and Shanghai it was the end of Oct. Last year and this year it was the beginning of December. If I may make a suggestion, the only real safe bet is to have the term start in January. I hope this helps not only with this year's election process, but also future election processes. Best regards, Michael D. Palage -----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Marilyn Cade Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 12:27 PM To: 'Bruce Tonkin'; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: RE: [council] Election of GNSO Council chair I support making an interim determination of chair, and nominate Bruce Tonkin for the interim chair for the period of 18 Nov - 18 Dec. I further propose that Council make the necessary modification to align elections with the AGM. It would be helpful if staff might offer us a draft resolution with that language for such a change. I think though, that the language is "elect a chair for a 12 month period" for that document. I then offer a proposal that we announce when the nomination process would be open for the nomination of chair for the one year term. Marilyn -----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Tonkin Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 10:54 AM To: council@gnso.icann.org Subject: [council] Election of GNSO Council chair Hello All, The current term of the GNSO Council chair expires on 18 November 2005. Given that new Council members take up their appointments after the annual general meeting each year, it would seem to me to make more sense to elect the GNSO Council chair after each AGM. I recommend the Council consider appointing a person as GNSO Council chair for a 1 month term: 18 Nov 2005 to 18 Dec 2005, and then after the AGM, the Council appoints a person for a 12 month term. This will then hopefully better align terms of the GNSO Council chair with the cycle of elections to the GNSO Council and the cycle of ICANN AGMs. Regards, Bruce Tonkin
It sounds like the bylaws need an update to accommodate this very practical situation as it does for the terms of councilors. Perhaps we can pick this up in the review process somehow... Michael D. Palage wrote:
Hello All:
As someone that serves on the ICANN Board Meetings Committee, it is difficult to peg the exact date of the ICANN annual meeting. In Tunisia and Shanghai it was the end of Oct. Last year and this year it was the beginning of December. If I may make a suggestion, the only real safe bet is to have the term start in January.
I hope this helps not only with this year's election process, but also future election processes.
Best regards,
Michael D. Palage
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Marilyn Cade Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 12:27 PM To: 'Bruce Tonkin'; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: RE: [council] Election of GNSO Council chair
I support making an interim determination of chair, and nominate Bruce Tonkin for the interim chair for the period of 18 Nov - 18 Dec.
I further propose that Council make the necessary modification to align elections with the AGM. It would be helpful if staff might offer us a draft resolution with that language for such a change. I think though, that the language is "elect a chair for a 12 month period" for that document.
I then offer a proposal that we announce when the nomination process would be open for the nomination of chair for the one year term.
Marilyn
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Tonkin Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 10:54 AM To: council@gnso.icann.org Subject: [council] Election of GNSO Council chair
Hello All,
The current term of the GNSO Council chair expires on 18 November 2005.
Given that new Council members take up their appointments after the annual general meeting each year, it would seem to me to make more sense to elect the GNSO Council chair after each AGM.
I recommend the Council consider appointing a person as GNSO Council chair for a 1 month term: 18 Nov 2005 to 18 Dec 2005, and then after the AGM, the Council appoints a person for a 12 month term.
This will then hopefully better align terms of the GNSO Council chair with the cycle of elections to the GNSO Council and the cycle of ICANN AGMs.
Regards, Bruce Tonkin
Colleagues Maria is out of the office today. I have sent a request to John J and copied Dan H so that they can come back to her with the appropriate language for the Council. Presumably this needs to be done in time for the next Council meeting - Thurs 20 Oct? Kind regards. Liz -----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Michael D. Palage Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 6:34 PM To: council@gnso.icann.org Subject: RE: [council] Election of GNSO Council chair Hello All: As someone that serves on the ICANN Board Meetings Committee, it is difficult to peg the exact date of the ICANN annual meeting. In Tunisia and Shanghai it was the end of Oct. Last year and this year it was the beginning of December. If I may make a suggestion, the only real safe bet is to have the term start in January. I hope this helps not only with this year's election process, but also future election processes. Best regards, Michael D. Palage -----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Marilyn Cade Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 12:27 PM To: 'Bruce Tonkin'; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: RE: [council] Election of GNSO Council chair I support making an interim determination of chair, and nominate Bruce Tonkin for the interim chair for the period of 18 Nov - 18 Dec. I further propose that Council make the necessary modification to align elections with the AGM. It would be helpful if staff might offer us a draft resolution with that language for such a change. I think though, that the language is "elect a chair for a 12 month period" for that document. I then offer a proposal that we announce when the nomination process would be open for the nomination of chair for the one year term. Marilyn -----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Tonkin Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 10:54 AM To: council@gnso.icann.org Subject: [council] Election of GNSO Council chair Hello All, The current term of the GNSO Council chair expires on 18 November 2005. Given that new Council members take up their appointments after the annual general meeting each year, it would seem to me to make more sense to elect the GNSO Council chair after each AGM. I recommend the Council consider appointing a person as GNSO Council chair for a 1 month term: 18 Nov 2005 to 18 Dec 2005, and then after the AGM, the Council appoints a person for a 12 month term. This will then hopefully better align terms of the GNSO Council chair with the cycle of elections to the GNSO Council and the cycle of ICANN AGMs. Regards, Bruce Tonkin
This discussion has exposed an issue in the current bylaws in that the terms of office of the Board and Council (and by implication Council chair) are tied not to long standing calendar events such as the 1st January, but to a movable feast called the ICANN annual meeting. The timing of the annual meeting is subject to the whims of geography, hoteliers and local organisers. So, what exactly is the ADVANTAGE of this arrangement? Mike? Marilyn ? Ross ? Bruce? Alejandro ? do you remember? Dammed if I do. Philip
And the history probably doesn't matter anyway. :-) So, as the staff are identifying things to change in the "review", this would have made the list anyway, probably. But we should just change it. Efficiently, and orderly. And now. -----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sheppard Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 3:41 AM To: council@gnso.icann.org Cc: 'Alejandro Pisanty' Subject: [council] Election of GNSO Council chair This discussion has exposed an issue in the current bylaws in that the terms of office of the Board and Council (and by implication Council chair) are tied not to long standing calendar events such as the 1st January, but to a movable feast called the ICANN annual meeting. The timing of the annual meeting is subject to the whims of geography, hoteliers and local organisers. So, what exactly is the ADVANTAGE of this arrangement? Mike? Marilyn ? Ross ? Bruce? Alejandro ? do you remember? Dammed if I do. Philip
IIRC, the intention was to allow councilors to complete their term with a full meeting (and presumably therefore, more finished business) under their belt. This arrangement makes sense to me. We should seek to bring the term of chair in line with this as well. Philip Sheppard wrote:
This discussion has exposed an issue in the current bylaws in that the terms of office of the Board and Council (and by implication Council chair) are tied not to long standing calendar events such as the 1st January, but to a movable feast called the ICANN annual meeting. The timing of the annual meeting is subject to the whims of geography, hoteliers and local organisers.
So, what exactly is the ADVANTAGE of this arrangement? Mike? Marilyn ? Ross ? Bruce? Alejandro ? do you remember? Dammed if I do.
Philip
Ross, this sounds plausible as a rationale. But does it reflect reality ? Liz, maybe a good question for the review? ie Is there any evidence (within the GNSo's history) to suggest that more GNSO business items are concluded at a physical meeting, as opposed to a telephone meeting? In particular, were more items concluded at the annual meting than at other physical meetings? Philip
Hi Philip Yes, will include this. I think it's a good set of questions to ask. I do, however, take Marilyn's point that this needs to be fixed in the interim so that we can keep Bruce in the traces for as long as possible! Liz -----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sheppard Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 3:03 PM To: council@gnso.icann.org Cc: 'Alejandro Pisanty' Subject: RE: [council] Election of GNSO Council chair Ross, this sounds plausible as a rationale. But does it reflect reality ? Liz, maybe a good question for the review? ie Is there any evidence (within the GNSo's history) to suggest that more GNSO business items are concluded at a physical meeting, as opposed to a telephone meeting? In particular, were more items concluded at the annual meting than at other physical meetings? Philip
Thanks Liz, and yes I do agree we must vote in that Tonkin fellow for the proposed interim term of office! Philip
It would probably be more effective for us to simply sync the terms of councilors with the term of the chair using the same means rather than trying to quantify which method is more efficient. I imagine that the reality is that there is no real difference and also that simply having things in sync will lead to greater efficiency. I also can't imagine us spending much more time on this point given the workload we have in front of us... Philip Sheppard wrote:
Ross, this sounds plausible as a rationale. But does it reflect reality ?
Liz, maybe a good question for the review? ie Is there any evidence (within the GNSo's history) to suggest that more GNSO business items are concluded at a physical meeting, as opposed to a telephone meeting? In particular, were more items concluded at the annual meting than at other physical meetings?
Philip
Philip, to come back after others' contributions, for a long time some of these timings didn't match, and a lot of effort went into making them match. Numerous impracticalities were reduced this way. Greetings to all. Alejandro Pisanty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Director General de Servicios de Computo Academico UNAM, Universidad Nacional Autonoma de Mexico Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico Tel. (+52-55) 5622-8541, 5622-8542 Fax 5622-8540 http://www.dgsca.unam.mx * ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, www.isoc.org Participa en ICANN, www.icann.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . On Fri, 14 Oct 2005, Philip Sheppard wrote:
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 09:40:39 +0200 From: Philip Sheppard <philip.sheppard@aim.be> To: council@gnso.icann.org Cc: 'Alejandro Pisanty' <apisan@servidor.unam.mx> Subject: Election of GNSO Council chair
This discussion has exposed an issue in the current bylaws in that the terms of office of the Board and Council (and by implication Council chair) are tied not to long standing calendar events such as the 1st January, but to a movable feast called the ICANN annual meeting. The timing of the annual meeting is subject to the whims of geography, hoteliers and local organisers.
So, what exactly is the ADVANTAGE of this arrangement? Mike? Marilyn ? Ross ? Bruce? Alejandro ? do you remember? Dammed if I do.
Philip
participants (7)
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Alejandro Pisanty -
Bruce Tonkin -
Liz Williams -
Marilyn Cade -
Michael D. Palage -
Philip Sheppard -
Ross Rader