All They’re also inconsistent with the comments being prepared by the RrSG so I cannot support them. Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ http://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of "Austin, Donna via council" <council@gnso.icann.org> Reply-To: "Austin, Donna" <Donna.Austin@team.neustar> Date: Monday 27 November 2017 at 19:31 To: Erika Mann <erika@erikamann.com> Cc: "gnso-secs@icann.org" <gnso-secs@icann.org>, "GNSO Council List (council@gnso.icann.org)" <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] [EXTERNAL] Re: SC-ICANN Budget: Draft Submission of Council Comments on ICANN's Reserve Target Level Thanks to all who contributed to this draft. Unfortunately the Council comments are inconsistent with those being prepared by the RySG and as such the Council comments could not be supported. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:34 AM, Erika Mann <erika@erikamann.com<mailto:erika@erikamann.com>> wrote: Berry, hi - when we debated the topic in the subgroup I raised concern to increase the reserve fund level (up to 17 months). I like to repeat my concern again. Thanks, Erika On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Berry Cobb <mail@berrycobb.com<mailto:mail@berrycobb.com>> wrote: GNSO Council Members, On behalf of the GNSO Council Standing Committee on ICANN’s Budget and Ops Plan (informal until Council adoption of charter), I attach here a draft of comments regarding ICANN’s Reserve Target Level for your consideration and eventual submission to the public comment forum, absent any objections from Council members. The comment submission deadline is 30 November 2017 and as such Council’s deliberation on this draft can occur via the Council’s mailing list and it will also be an agenda item on the 30 Nov Council meeting. The standing committee met last week to discuss this topic and was also joined by Xavier Calvez, ICANN’s CFO. As agreed during that call, staff assisted the committee with developing a first draft. This draft contains two options with regards to the size of the Reserve Fund; option 1 in line with the current target as analyzed by staff and the Board Finance Committee, and option 2 that proposes an extension to 24 months of operating expenses. Please refer to the attached draft for details and the analysis paper submitted for public comment (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_public-2Dcomments_reserve-2Dfund-2D2017-2D10-2D12-2Den&d=DwIGaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=CwipU91YB6EkpFXK9ynnT_QUef4yC5p7jpsDm8cU97g&m=aipC3aW9InMbBKFNJeP3Zc474y2KErlwcqthYU2fiVA&s=EMW4W0OFv1kagWlUuvLAlb8RmHpUxjUwK23CMesmaj0&e=). Only one comment has been submitted to date. On behalf of the Council Leadership and again absent any objections, staff can submit the final version of comments to the forum by 23:59 UTC, 30 November 2017. In the meantime, please let staff or Council leadership know if you have any questions about process or this draft of comments. Thank you for your attention to this matter. B Berry A. Cobb 720.839.5735 mail@berrycobb.com<mailto:mail@berrycobb.com> @berrycobb _______________________________________________ council mailing list council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mm.icann.org_mailman_listinfo_council&d=DwIGaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=CwipU91YB6EkpFXK9ynnT_QUef4yC5p7jpsDm8cU97g&m=aipC3aW9InMbBKFNJeP3Zc474y2KErlwcqthYU2fiVA&s=WE_EJSDAAhPM2R9WaaoGD2_OUOBBWDKMuc1rtK5Vrt8&e= _______________________________________________ council mailing list council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mm.icann.org_mailman_listinfo_council&d=DwIGaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=CwipU91YB6EkpFXK9ynnT_QUef4yC5p7jpsDm8cU97g&m=aipC3aW9InMbBKFNJeP3Zc474y2KErlwcqthYU2fiVA&s=WE_EJSDAAhPM2R9WaaoGD2_OUOBBWDKMuc1rtK5Vrt8&e=

Completely agree with Michele on this issue. __________ *Darcy Southwell *| Compliance Officer M: +1 503-453-7305 │ Skype: darcy.enyeart On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 11:32 AM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight < michele@blacknight.com> wrote:

To clarify. The reserve fund should not be more than 12 months. Also any attempts to either use auction funds to replenish reserves or any increase in fees to either registries or registrars should not considered.

Regards

Michele

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________________________________________ From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com> Sent: 28 November 2017 16:38:04 To: Austin, Donna; Erika Mann Cc: gnso-SECS; GNSO Council List (council@gnso.icann.org) Subject: Re: [council] [EXTERNAL] Re: SC-ICANN Budget: Draft Submission of Council Comments on ICANN's Reserve Target Level

All

They’re also inconsistent with the comments being prepared by the RrSG so I cannot support them.

Regards

Michele

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Thanks to all who contributed to this draft.

Unfortunately the Council comments are inconsistent with those being prepared by the RySG and as such the Council comments could not be supported.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:34 AM, Erika Mann <erika@erikamann.com<mailto:er ika@erikamann.com>> wrote: Berry, hi -

when we debated the topic in the subgroup I raised concern to increase the reserve fund level (up to 17 months). I like to repeat my concern again.

Thanks, Erika

On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Berry Cobb <mail@berrycobb.com<mailto:mai l@berrycobb.com>> wrote:

GNSO Council Members,

On behalf of the GNSO Council Standing Committee on ICANN’s Budget and Ops Plan (informal until Council adoption of charter), I attach here a draft of comments regarding ICANN’s Reserve Target Level for your consideration and eventual submission to the public comment forum, absent any objections from Council members. The comment submission deadline is 30 November 2017 and as such Council’s deliberation on this draft can occur via the Council’s mailing list and it will also be an agenda item on the 30 Nov Council meeting.

The standing committee met last week to discuss this topic and was also joined by Xavier Calvez, ICANN’s CFO. As agreed during that call, staff assisted the committee with developing a first draft. This draft contains two options with regards to the size of the Reserve Fund; option 1 in line with the current target as analyzed by staff and the Board Finance Committee, and option 2 that proposes an extension to 24 months of operating expenses. Please refer to the attached draft for details and the analysis paper submitted for public comment (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https- 3A__www.icann.org_public-2Dcomments_reserve-2Dfund- 2D2017-2D10-2D12-2Den&d=DwIGaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_ lULrw&r=CwipU91YB6EkpFXK9ynnT_QUef4yC5p7jpsDm8cU97g&m= aipC3aW9InMbBKFNJeP3Zc474y2KErlwcqthYU2fiVA&s= EMW4W0OFv1kagWlUuvLAlb8RmHpUxjUwK23CMesmaj0&e=). Only one comment has been submitted to date.

On behalf of the Council Leadership and again absent any objections, staff can submit the final version of comments to the forum by 23:59 UTC, 30 November 2017.

In the meantime, please let staff or Council leadership know if you have any questions about process or this draft of comments. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

B

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Piling on to previous messages, but noting that the IPC is also working on comments (not yet finalised) that seem headed to diverge with these Standing Committee comments. Best wishes, Heather On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 8:59 AM, Austin, Donna via council < council@gnso.icann.org> wrote:

All

Just following up on my email yesterday about the Council comments being inconsistent with the RySG comments.

The RySG has not yet finalized its comments, but the current draft questions the rationale provided by ICANN to change the target level for the ICANN Reserve Fund from 12 months, to 12 - 17 or more months of operating expenses and concludes that there are insufficient arguments to change the target level from 12 months. The RySG believes that ICANN should explain why it thinks that $142M isn't a sufficient reserve fund for its purposes and why it now needs over $200M.

The RySG comments also questions the validity of the three not-for-profit organisations chosen by ICANN for comparative purposes and considers it essential that the report provide the grounds on which they were selected.

Therefore, the RySG could not support either option 1 or 2 of the current Council draft and also has a slightly different perspective on the first dot point under General Comments.

Donna

*From:* council [mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Austin, Donna via council *Sent:* Monday, November 27, 2017 11:31 AM *To:* Erika Mann <erika@erikamann.com> *Cc:* gnso-SECS <gnso-secs@icann.org>; GNSO Council List ( council@gnso.icann.org) <council@gnso.icann.org> *Subject:* Re: [council] [EXTERNAL] Re: SC-ICANN Budget: Draft Submission of Council Comments on ICANN's Reserve Target Level

Thanks to all who contributed to this draft.

Unfortunately the Council comments are inconsistent with those being prepared by the RySG and as such the Council comments could not be supported.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:34 AM, Erika Mann <erika@erikamann.com> wrote:

Berry, hi -

when we debated the topic in the subgroup I raised concern to increase the reserve fund level (up to 17 months). I like to repeat my concern again.

Thanks, Erika

On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Berry Cobb <mail@berrycobb.com> wrote:

GNSO Council Members,

On behalf of the GNSO Council Standing Committee on ICANN’s Budget and Ops

Plan (informal until Council adoption of charter), I attach here a draft of

comments regarding ICANN’s Reserve Target Level for your consideration and

eventual submission to the public comment forum, absent any objections from

Council members. The comment submission deadline is 30 November 2017 and as

such Council’s deliberation on this draft can occur via the Council’s

mailing list and it will also be an agenda item on the 30 Nov Council

meeting.

The standing committee met last week to discuss this topic and was also

joined by Xavier Calvez, ICANN’s CFO. As agreed during that call, staff

assisted the committee with developing a first draft. This draft contains

two options with regards to the size of the Reserve Fund; option 1 in line

with the current target as analyzed by staff and the Board Finance

Committee, and option 2 that proposes an extension to 24 months of operating

expenses. Please refer to the attached draft for details and the analysis

paper submitted for public comment

(https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https- 3A__www.icann.org_public-2Dcomments_reserve-2Dfund- 2D2017-2D10-2D12-2Den&d=DwIGaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_ lULrw&r=CwipU91YB6EkpFXK9ynnT_QUef4yC5p7jpsDm8cU97g&m= aipC3aW9InMbBKFNJeP3Zc474y2KErlwcqthYU2fiVA&s= EMW4W0OFv1kagWlUuvLAlb8RmHpUxjUwK23CMesmaj0&e=). Only

one comment has been submitted to date.

On behalf of the Council Leadership and again absent any objections, staff

can submit the final version of comments to the forum by 23:59 UTC, 30

November 2017.

In the meantime, please let staff or Council leadership know if you have any

questions about process or this draft of comments. Thank you for your

attention to this matter.

B

Berry A. Cobb

720.839.5735 <(720)%20839-5735>

mail@berrycobb.com

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