Hello Colleagues - Following up from our discussions in Morocco, the next phases of AOC Reviews for Accountability and Transparency (ATRT3) and WHOIS (WHOIS2) will be kicking off this year. (See attached slide for schedule). During our weekend sessions in Marrakech, we discussed the challenges & wisdom of launching these reviews now, given that substantial work on both topics is already in progress. Also, our update from ICANN Staff made it clear that Staff would not act unilaterally to delay or postpone any scheduled AOC review, particularly in the absence of consistent guidance from the Community. We did not reach any decision at ICANN55. In my view, our options are: (1) Take no action. The likely outcome is that the AOC Reviews (ATRT3 and WHOIS2) will commence as planned. (2) Consult informally with other SO/ACs and the Board to get a sense of similar concerns shared by other organizations in the Community. (3) Draft a letter to the Board/Staff, copying other SO/ACs, outlining our concerns about potential overlap/redundancy of upcoming AOC reviews with ongoing work on Accountability and WHOIS. We can flag this topic for discussing during out next Council call (14 APR). However, the agenda for this meeting is starting to fill up, so it would be immensely helpful if we could discuss on the list and arrive at a decision. Thank you, J.
Dear All, I would like to comment on the very interesting discussion, if inconclusive discussion we had in Marrakech, as alumni of ATRT2 and actual member of CCT1. My 2 cents: 1. The most important issue this year is how the AoCs will be incorporated into the By Laws, as we all expect the AoC to lapse. If they are going to be incorporated more or less verbatim, meaning keeping a large margin for interpretation, or if in this opportunity more stringent definition of the reviews will be developed. <suggestion> We should define ASAP as GNSO team that will collect feedback from previous Review Teams and try to follow up as closely as possible the implementation of the AoC into the By Laws 2. Another important issue with the Reviews, is the very slow startup phase in terms of budget, charter or Terms of Reference, progress reviews since the last exercise, etc. In case of the ATRT2 it took a few months to find out we had little funds. in case of the first CCT we have funds but the external Studies by Analysis and Nielsen are pretty much delayed. <suggestion> In the meantime Staff should prepare yearly progress reports on progress in implementation of Review recommendations, simultaneously at a fixed date EVERY the year. Lets say June 30. Based on those yearly reports SOs and ACs would have a common ground for discussion on future reviews planing and budgeting every time it is necessary. Look forward to other comments and suggestions before or on April 14. Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez +506 8837 7176 Skype: carlos.raulg Current UTC offset: -6.00 (Costa Rica) On 29 Mar 2016, at 8:00, James M. Bladel wrote:
Hello Colleagues -
Following up from our discussions in Morocco, the next phases of AOC Reviews for Accountability and Transparency (ATRT3) and WHOIS (WHOIS2) will be kicking off this year. (See attached slide for schedule).
During our weekend sessions in Marrakech, we discussed the challenges & wisdom of launching these reviews now, given that substantial work on both topics is already in progress. Also, our update from ICANN Staff made it clear that Staff would not act unilaterally to delay or postpone any scheduled AOC review, particularly in the absence of consistent guidance from the Community.
We did not reach any decision at ICANN55. In my view, our options are:
(1) Take no action. The likely outcome is that the AOC Reviews (ATRT3 and WHOIS2) will commence as planned. (2) Consult informally with other SO/ACs and the Board to get a sense of similar concerns shared by other organizations in the Community. (3) Draft a letter to the Board/Staff, copying other SO/ACs, outlining our concerns about potential overlap/redundancy of upcoming AOC reviews with ongoing work on Accountability and WHOIS.
We can flag this topic for discussing during out next Council call (14 APR). However, the agenda for this meeting is starting to fill up, so it would be immensely helpful if we could discuss on the list and arrive at a decision.
Thank you,
J.
Hello Carlos and everyone, While it’s not quite the same as your suggestion of a fixed annual time for progress reports, you may be interested to know that periodic updates are published regarding implementation of completed AoC reviews. The most current updates can be accessed from the following link: https://www.icann.org/resources/reviews/aoc#Implementation. Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: mary.wong@icann.org Telephone: +1-603-5744889 On 3/29/16, 10:42, "owner-council@gnso.icann.org on behalf of Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez G." <owner-council@gnso.icann.org on behalf of crg@isoc-cr.org> wrote:
Dear All,
I would like to comment on the very interesting discussion, if inconclusive discussion we had in Marrakech, as alumni of ATRT2 and actual member of CCT1. My 2 cents:
1. The most important issue this year is how the AoCs will be incorporated into the By Laws, as we all expect the AoC to lapse. If they are going to be incorporated more or less verbatim, meaning keeping a large margin for interpretation, or if in this opportunity more stringent definition of the reviews will be developed.
<suggestion> We should define ASAP as GNSO team that will collect feedback from previous Review Teams and try to follow up as closely as possible the implementation of the AoC into the By Laws
2. Another important issue with the Reviews, is the very slow startup phase in terms of budget, charter or Terms of Reference, progress reviews since the last exercise, etc. In case of the ATRT2 it took a few months to find out we had little funds. in case of the first CCT we have funds but the external Studies by Analysis and Nielsen are pretty much delayed.
<suggestion> In the meantime Staff should prepare yearly progress reports on progress in implementation of Review recommendations, simultaneously at a fixed date EVERY the year. Lets say June 30. Based on those yearly reports SOs and ACs would have a common ground for discussion on future reviews planing and budgeting every time it is necessary.
Look forward to other comments and suggestions before or on April 14.
Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez +506 8837 7176 Skype: carlos.raulg Current UTC offset: -6.00 (Costa Rica) On 29 Mar 2016, at 8:00, James M. Bladel wrote:
Hello Colleagues -
Following up from our discussions in Morocco, the next phases of AOC Reviews for Accountability and Transparency (ATRT3) and WHOIS (WHOIS2) will be kicking off this year. (See attached slide for schedule).
During our weekend sessions in Marrakech, we discussed the challenges & wisdom of launching these reviews now, given that substantial work on both topics is already in progress. Also, our update from ICANN Staff made it clear that Staff would not act unilaterally to delay or postpone any scheduled AOC review, particularly in the absence of consistent guidance from the Community.
We did not reach any decision at ICANN55. In my view, our options are:
(1) Take no action. The likely outcome is that the AOC Reviews (ATRT3 and WHOIS2) will commence as planned. (2) Consult informally with other SO/ACs and the Board to get a sense of similar concerns shared by other organizations in the Community. (3) Draft a letter to the Board/Staff, copying other SO/ACs, outlining our concerns about potential overlap/redundancy of upcoming AOC reviews with ongoing work on Accountability and WHOIS.
We can flag this topic for discussing during out next Council call (14 APR). However, the agenda for this meeting is starting to fill up, so it would be immensely helpful if we could discuss on the list and arrive at a decision.
Thank you,
J.
Apologies, I meant to also include the following link in my last message - this is to the annual report specific to WHOIS implementation: https://whois.icann.org/sites/default/files/files/improvements-annual-report.... Cheers Mary On 3/29/16, 14:07, "owner-council@gnso.icann.org on behalf of Mary Wong" <owner-council@gnso.icann.org on behalf of mary.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Hello Carlos and everyone,
While it’s not quite the same as your suggestion of a fixed annual time for progress reports, you may be interested to know that periodic updates are published regarding implementation of completed AoC reviews. The most current updates can be accessed from the following link: https://www.icann.org/resources/reviews/aoc#Implementation.
Cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: mary.wong@icann.org Telephone: +1-603-5744889
On 3/29/16, 10:42, "owner-council@gnso.icann.org on behalf of Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez G." <owner-council@gnso.icann.org on behalf of crg@isoc-cr.org> wrote:
Dear All,
I would like to comment on the very interesting discussion, if inconclusive discussion we had in Marrakech, as alumni of ATRT2 and actual member of CCT1. My 2 cents:
1. The most important issue this year is how the AoCs will be incorporated into the By Laws, as we all expect the AoC to lapse. If they are going to be incorporated more or less verbatim, meaning keeping a large margin for interpretation, or if in this opportunity more stringent definition of the reviews will be developed.
<suggestion> We should define ASAP as GNSO team that will collect feedback from previous Review Teams and try to follow up as closely as possible the implementation of the AoC into the By Laws
2. Another important issue with the Reviews, is the very slow startup phase in terms of budget, charter or Terms of Reference, progress reviews since the last exercise, etc. In case of the ATRT2 it took a few months to find out we had little funds. in case of the first CCT we have funds but the external Studies by Analysis and Nielsen are pretty much delayed.
<suggestion> In the meantime Staff should prepare yearly progress reports on progress in implementation of Review recommendations, simultaneously at a fixed date EVERY the year. Lets say June 30. Based on those yearly reports SOs and ACs would have a common ground for discussion on future reviews planing and budgeting every time it is necessary.
Look forward to other comments and suggestions before or on April 14.
Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez +506 8837 7176 Skype: carlos.raulg Current UTC offset: -6.00 (Costa Rica) On 29 Mar 2016, at 8:00, James M. Bladel wrote:
Hello Colleagues -
Following up from our discussions in Morocco, the next phases of AOC Reviews for Accountability and Transparency (ATRT3) and WHOIS (WHOIS2) will be kicking off this year. (See attached slide for schedule).
During our weekend sessions in Marrakech, we discussed the challenges & wisdom of launching these reviews now, given that substantial work on both topics is already in progress. Also, our update from ICANN Staff made it clear that Staff would not act unilaterally to delay or postpone any scheduled AOC review, particularly in the absence of consistent guidance from the Community.
We did not reach any decision at ICANN55. In my view, our options are:
(1) Take no action. The likely outcome is that the AOC Reviews (ATRT3 and WHOIS2) will commence as planned. (2) Consult informally with other SO/ACs and the Board to get a sense of similar concerns shared by other organizations in the Community. (3) Draft a letter to the Board/Staff, copying other SO/ACs, outlining our concerns about potential overlap/redundancy of upcoming AOC reviews with ongoing work on Accountability and WHOIS.
We can flag this topic for discussing during out next Council call (14 APR). However, the agenda for this meeting is starting to fill up, so it would be immensely helpful if we could discuss on the list and arrive at a decision.
Thank you,
J.
Thank you very much Mary, I will take a look. Best regards Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez +506 8837 7176 Skype: carlos.raulg Current UTC offset: -6.00 (Costa Rica) On 29 Mar 2016, at 12:07, Mary Wong wrote:
Hello Carlos and everyone,
While it’s not quite the same as your suggestion of a fixed annual time for progress reports, you may be interested to know that periodic updates are published regarding implementation of completed AoC reviews. The most current updates can be accessed from the following link: https://www.icann.org/resources/reviews/aoc#Implementation.
Cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: mary.wong@icann.org Telephone: +1-603-5744889
On 3/29/16, 10:42, "owner-council@gnso.icann.org on behalf of Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez G." <owner-council@gnso.icann.org on behalf of crg@isoc-cr.org> wrote:
Dear All,
I would like to comment on the very interesting discussion, if inconclusive discussion we had in Marrakech, as alumni of ATRT2 and actual member of CCT1. My 2 cents:
1. The most important issue this year is how the AoCs will be incorporated into the By Laws, as we all expect the AoC to lapse. If they are going to be incorporated more or less verbatim, meaning keeping a large margin for interpretation, or if in this opportunity more stringent definition of the reviews will be developed.
<suggestion> We should define ASAP as GNSO team that will collect feedback from previous Review Teams and try to follow up as closely as possible the implementation of the AoC into the By Laws
2. Another important issue with the Reviews, is the very slow startup phase in terms of budget, charter or Terms of Reference, progress reviews since the last exercise, etc. In case of the ATRT2 it took a few months to find out we had little funds. in case of the first CCT we have funds but the external Studies by Analysis and Nielsen are pretty much delayed.
<suggestion> In the meantime Staff should prepare yearly progress reports on progress in implementation of Review recommendations, simultaneously at a fixed date EVERY the year. Lets say June 30. Based on those yearly reports SOs and ACs would have a common ground for discussion on future reviews planing and budgeting every time it is necessary.
Look forward to other comments and suggestions before or on April 14.
Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez +506 8837 7176 Skype: carlos.raulg Current UTC offset: -6.00 (Costa Rica) On 29 Mar 2016, at 8:00, James M. Bladel wrote:
Hello Colleagues -
Following up from our discussions in Morocco, the next phases of AOC Reviews for Accountability and Transparency (ATRT3) and WHOIS (WHOIS2) will be kicking off this year. (See attached slide for schedule).
During our weekend sessions in Marrakech, we discussed the challenges & wisdom of launching these reviews now, given that substantial work on both topics is already in progress. Also, our update from ICANN Staff made it clear that Staff would not act unilaterally to delay or postpone any scheduled AOC review, particularly in the absence of consistent guidance from the Community.
We did not reach any decision at ICANN55. In my view, our options are:
(1) Take no action. The likely outcome is that the AOC Reviews (ATRT3 and WHOIS2) will commence as planned. (2) Consult informally with other SO/ACs and the Board to get a sense of similar concerns shared by other organizations in the Community. (3) Draft a letter to the Board/Staff, copying other SO/ACs, outlining our concerns about potential overlap/redundancy of upcoming AOC reviews with ongoing work on Accountability and WHOIS.
We can flag this topic for discussing during out next Council call (14 APR). However, the agenda for this meeting is starting to fill up, so it would be immensely helpful if we could discuss on the list and arrive at a decision.
Thank you,
J.
Hello James, Thanks for raising this topic again. I believe that we should start by conducting informal consultations (hopefully we will have some feedback before our call) and then consider sending a letter to the board. I do feel we have strong reasons to be concerned. Thanks Marília On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 5:54 PM, Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez G. <crg@isoc-cr.org> wrote:
Thank you very much Mary,
I will take a look.
Best regards
Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez +506 8837 7176 Skype: carlos.raulg Current UTC offset: -6.00 (Costa Rica) On 29 Mar 2016, at 12:07, Mary Wong wrote:
Hello Carlos and everyone,
While it’s not quite the same as your suggestion of a fixed annual time for progress reports, you may be interested to know that periodic updates are published regarding implementation of completed AoC reviews. The most current updates can be accessed from the following link: https://www.icann.org/resources/reviews/aoc#Implementation.
Cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: mary.wong@icann.org Telephone: +1-603-5744889
On 3/29/16, 10:42, "owner-council@gnso.icann.org on behalf of Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez G." <owner-council@gnso.icann.org on behalf of crg@isoc-cr.org> wrote:
Dear All,
I would like to comment on the very interesting discussion, if inconclusive discussion we had in Marrakech, as alumni of ATRT2 and actual member of CCT1. My 2 cents:
1. The most important issue this year is how the AoCs will be incorporated into the By Laws, as we all expect the AoC to lapse. If they are going to be incorporated more or less verbatim, meaning keeping a large margin for interpretation, or if in this opportunity more stringent definition of the reviews will be developed.
<suggestion> We should define ASAP as GNSO team that will collect feedback from previous Review Teams and try to follow up as closely as possible the implementation of the AoC into the By Laws
2. Another important issue with the Reviews, is the very slow startup phase in terms of budget, charter or Terms of Reference, progress reviews since the last exercise, etc. In case of the ATRT2 it took a few months to find out we had little funds. in case of the first CCT we have funds but the external Studies by Analysis and Nielsen are pretty much delayed.
<suggestion> In the meantime Staff should prepare yearly progress reports on progress in implementation of Review recommendations, simultaneously at a fixed date EVERY the year. Lets say June 30. Based on those yearly reports SOs and ACs would have a common ground for discussion on future reviews planing and budgeting every time it is necessary.
Look forward to other comments and suggestions before or on April 14.
Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez +506 8837 7176 Skype: carlos.raulg Current UTC offset: -6.00 (Costa Rica) On 29 Mar 2016, at 8:00, James M. Bladel wrote:
Hello Colleagues -
Following up from our discussions in Morocco, the next phases of AOC Reviews for Accountability and Transparency (ATRT3) and WHOIS (WHOIS2) will be kicking off this year. (See attached slide for schedule).
During our weekend sessions in Marrakech, we discussed the challenges & wisdom of launching these reviews now, given that substantial work on both topics is already in progress. Also, our update from ICANN Staff made it clear that Staff would not act unilaterally to delay or postpone any scheduled AOC review, particularly in the absence of consistent guidance from the Community.
We did not reach any decision at ICANN55. In my view, our options are:
(1) Take no action. The likely outcome is that the AOC Reviews (ATRT3 and WHOIS2) will commence as planned. (2) Consult informally with other SO/ACs and the Board to get a sense of similar concerns shared by other organizations in the Community. (3) Draft a letter to the Board/Staff, copying other SO/ACs, outlining our concerns about potential overlap/redundancy of upcoming AOC reviews with ongoing work on Accountability and WHOIS.
We can flag this topic for discussing during out next Council call (14 APR). However, the agenda for this meeting is starting to fill up, so it would be immensely helpful if we could discuss on the list and arrive at a decision.
Thank you,
J.
-- *Marília Maciel* Pesquisadora Gestora - Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade - FGV Direito Rio Researcher and Coordinator - Center for Technology & Society - FGV Law School http://direitorio.fgv.br/cts DiploFoundation associate - www.diplomacy.edu PoliTICs Magazine Advisory Committee - http://www.politics.org.br/
Thanks Marilla & Carlos for your thoughts on this matter. There is a call for chairs of other SOs & ACs, currently scheduled for 11 APR. I will get this issue on the agenda, and report back. Thanks— J. From: Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel@gmail.com<mailto:mariliamaciel@gmail.com>> Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 at 16:34 To: "Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez G." <crg@isoc-cr.org<mailto:crg@isoc-cr.org>> Cc: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, James Bladel <jbladel@godaddy.com<mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com>>, GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Subject: Re: [council] AOC Reviews Hello James, Thanks for raising this topic again. I believe that we should start by conducting informal consultations (hopefully we will have some feedback before our call) and then consider sending a letter to the board. I do feel we have strong reasons to be concerned. Thanks Marília On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 5:54 PM, Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez G. <crg@isoc-cr.org<mailto:crg@isoc-cr.org>> wrote: Thank you very much Mary, I will take a look. Best regards Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez +506 8837 7176<tel:%2B506%208837%207176> Skype: carlos.raulg Current UTC offset: -6.00 (Costa Rica) On 29 Mar 2016, at 12:07, Mary Wong wrote: Hello Carlos and everyone, While it’s not quite the same as your suggestion of a fixed annual time for progress reports, you may be interested to know that periodic updates are published regarding implementation of completed AoC reviews. The most current updates can be accessed from the following link: https://www.icann.org/resources/reviews/aoc#Implementation. Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> Telephone: +1-603-5744889<tel:%2B1-603-5744889> On 3/29/16, 10:42, "owner-council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez G." <owner-council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of crg@isoc-cr.org<mailto:crg@isoc-cr.org>> wrote: Dear All, I would like to comment on the very interesting discussion, if inconclusive discussion we had in Marrakech, as alumni of ATRT2 and actual member of CCT1. My 2 cents: 1. The most important issue this year is how the AoCs will be incorporated into the By Laws, as we all expect the AoC to lapse. If they are going to be incorporated more or less verbatim, meaning keeping a large margin for interpretation, or if in this opportunity more stringent definition of the reviews will be developed. <suggestion> We should define ASAP as GNSO team that will collect feedback from previous Review Teams and try to follow up as closely as possible the implementation of the AoC into the By Laws 2. Another important issue with the Reviews, is the very slow startup phase in terms of budget, charter or Terms of Reference, progress reviews since the last exercise, etc. In case of the ATRT2 it took a few months to find out we had little funds. in case of the first CCT we have funds but the external Studies by Analysis and Nielsen are pretty much delayed. <suggestion> In the meantime Staff should prepare yearly progress reports on progress in implementation of Review recommendations, simultaneously at a fixed date EVERY the year. Lets say June 30. Based on those yearly reports SOs and ACs would have a common ground for discussion on future reviews planing and budgeting every time it is necessary. Look forward to other comments and suggestions before or on April 14. Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez +506 8837 7176<tel:%2B506%208837%207176> Skype: carlos.raulg Current UTC offset: -6.00 (Costa Rica) On 29 Mar 2016, at 8:00, James M. Bladel wrote: Hello Colleagues - Following up from our discussions in Morocco, the next phases of AOC Reviews for Accountability and Transparency (ATRT3) and WHOIS (WHOIS2) will be kicking off this year. (See attached slide for schedule). During our weekend sessions in Marrakech, we discussed the challenges & wisdom of launching these reviews now, given that substantial work on both topics is already in progress. Also, our update from ICANN Staff made it clear that Staff would not act unilaterally to delay or postpone any scheduled AOC review, particularly in the absence of consistent guidance from the Community. We did not reach any decision at ICANN55. In my view, our options are: (1) Take no action. The likely outcome is that the AOC Reviews (ATRT3 and WHOIS2) will commence as planned. (2) Consult informally with other SO/ACs and the Board to get a sense of similar concerns shared by other organizations in the Community. (3) Draft a letter to the Board/Staff, copying other SO/ACs, outlining our concerns about potential overlap/redundancy of upcoming AOC reviews with ongoing work on Accountability and WHOIS. We can flag this topic for discussing during out next Council call (14 APR). However, the agenda for this meeting is starting to fill up, so it would be immensely helpful if we could discuss on the list and arrive at a decision. Thank you, J. -- Marília Maciel Pesquisadora Gestora - Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade - FGV Direito Rio Researcher and Coordinator - Center for Technology & Society - FGV Law School http://direitorio.fgv.br/cts DiploFoundation associate - www.diplomacy.edu<http://www.diplomacy.edu> PoliTICs Magazine Advisory Committee - http://www.politics.org.br/
Hi James I think there would be some value in options 2 and 3 as outlined in your email. I'd also be interested to understand the impact of the reviews in the context of volunteer burnout. Given the other efforts that are currently being undertaken by the community, it would be useful to understand the full picture. As I understand it the AoC Reviews at teams sourced from the community, while consultants are engaged to conduct the organisational reviews, but I could be wrong in this regard. Donna From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of James M. Bladel Sent: Tuesday, 29 March 2016 7:00 AM To: GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: [council] AOC Reviews Hello Colleagues - Following up from our discussions in Morocco, the next phases of AOC Reviews for Accountability and Transparency (ATRT3) and WHOIS (WHOIS2) will be kicking off this year. (See attached slide for schedule). During our weekend sessions in Marrakech, we discussed the challenges & wisdom of launching these reviews now, given that substantial work on both topics is already in progress. Also, our update from ICANN Staff made it clear that Staff would not act unilaterally to delay or postpone any scheduled AOC review, particularly in the absence of consistent guidance from the Community. We did not reach any decision at ICANN55. In my view, our options are: (1) Take no action. The likely outcome is that the AOC Reviews (ATRT3 and WHOIS2) will commence as planned. (2) Consult informally with other SO/ACs and the Board to get a sense of similar concerns shared by other organizations in the Community. (3) Draft a letter to the Board/Staff, copying other SO/ACs, outlining our concerns about potential overlap/redundancy of upcoming AOC reviews with ongoing work on Accountability and WHOIS. We can flag this topic for discussing during out next Council call (14 APR). However, the agenda for this meeting is starting to fill up, so it would be immensely helpful if we could discuss on the list and arrive at a decision. Thank you, J.
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