PDP Leadership Travel Support Pilot report - any objections
Dear Council colleagues, As noted on in our August GNSO Council meeting, we received in the FY18 budget process funding through the Additional Budget Request (ABR) mechanism to run a pilot of travel funding for a limited number of our PDP Chairs/leaders who otherwise would not have received funding to attend an ICANN public meeting. We are required under the Additional Budget Request process to provide a report summarising how the funds were used, and how they contributed to our activities. Donna, Rafik and I put the attached report to your attention; if you have any objections or proposed amendments, please could you post these to the Council list by next Monday, 10 September? Many thanks and best wishes, Heather, on behalf of Council leadership team
Heather and Council leadership, Thanks this, no objection, I think it’s very good. Merely a suggestion: (**) could be made explicit in a summary after those notes. I don’t have the words but the point is that overall what I understand to be “1 partial support and 1 full support” for the leaders of what is the core activity of GSNO, this is “little money well spent”, to us and should be to the reader of this report. As an aside, the quotes are from individual emails (I understand) and maybe the authors weren’t aware their words may have to be reproduced in a report. Not that there’s a particular issue with the quotes here but moving forward we may want to put that upfront to them when they put forward such requests, if only out of courtesy. (if that is not already the case, I don’t know…) Hope this is helpful. Regards, Philippe From: council [mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Heather Forrest Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 6:34 AM To: GNSO Council List Subject: [council] PDP Leadership Travel Support Pilot report - any objections Dear Council colleagues, As noted on in our August GNSO Council meeting, we received in the FY18 budget process funding through the Additional Budget Request (ABR) mechanism to run a pilot of travel funding for a limited number of our PDP Chairs/leaders who otherwise would not have received funding to attend an ICANN public meeting. We are required under the Additional Budget Request process to provide a report summarising how the funds were used, and how they contributed to our activities. Donna, Rafik and I put the attached report to your attention; if you have any objections or proposed amendments, please could you post these to the Council list by next Monday, 10 September? Many thanks and best wishes, Heather, on behalf of Council leadership team _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. Merci. This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged information that may be protected by law; they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this message and its attachments. As emails may be altered, Orange is not liable for messages that have been modified, changed or falsified. Thank you.
Agree with Philippe’s notes I’d also think we need to flesh out that without the travel support they wouldn’t have been able to attend bit. Simply stating that there’s no other travel support doesn’t mean that they wouldn’t have been able to attend. However at the same time I don’t think we need to be prying too deeply into people’s finances etc., Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ https://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of "philippe.fouquart@orange.com" <philippe.fouquart@orange.com> Date: Wednesday 5 September 2018 at 09:37 To: Heather Forrest <haforrestesq@gmail.com>, GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] PDP Leadership Travel Support Pilot report - any objections Heather and Council leadership, Thanks this, no objection, I think it’s very good. Merely a suggestion: (**) could be made explicit in a summary after those notes. I don’t have the words but the point is that overall what I understand to be “1 partial support and 1 full support” for the leaders of what is the core activity of GSNO, this is “little money well spent”, to us and should be to the reader of this report. As an aside, the quotes are from individual emails (I understand) and maybe the authors weren’t aware their words may have to be reproduced in a report. Not that there’s a particular issue with the quotes here but moving forward we may want to put that upfront to them when they put forward such requests, if only out of courtesy. (if that is not already the case, I don’t know…) Hope this is helpful. Regards, Philippe From: council [mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Heather Forrest Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 6:34 AM To: GNSO Council List Subject: [council] PDP Leadership Travel Support Pilot report - any objections Dear Council colleagues, As noted on in our August GNSO Council meeting, we received in the FY18 budget process funding through the Additional Budget Request (ABR) mechanism to run a pilot of travel funding for a limited number of our PDP Chairs/leaders who otherwise would not have received funding to attend an ICANN public meeting. We are required under the Additional Budget Request process to provide a report summarising how the funds were used, and how they contributed to our activities. Donna, Rafik and I put the attached report to your attention; if you have any objections or proposed amendments, please could you post these to the Council list by next Monday, 10 September? Many thanks and best wishes, Heather, on behalf of Council leadership team _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. Merci. This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged information that may be protected by law; they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this message and its attachments. As emails may be altered, Orange is not liable for messages that have been modified, changed or falsified. Thank you.
Thanks also, Michele - I wonder if your comments are most powerful in the context of the next time the pilot is employed (ie, when we seek applications from PDP leaders for funding)? We could note in this report that this is something that we'll take up more robustly in the next pilot. Best wishes, Heather On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 9:51 PM Michele Neylon - Blacknight < michele@blacknight.com> wrote:
Agree with Philippe’s notes
I’d also think we need to flesh out that without the travel support they wouldn’t have been able to attend bit. Simply stating that there’s no other travel support doesn’t mean that they wouldn’t have been able to attend. However at the same time I don’t think we need to be prying too deeply into people’s finances etc.,
Regards
Michele
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Heather and Council leadership,
Thanks this, no objection, I think it’s very good.
Merely a suggestion: (**) could be made explicit in a summary after those notes. I don’t have the words but the point is that overall what I understand to be “1 partial support and 1 full support” for the leaders of what is the core activity of GSNO, this is “little money well spent”, to us and should be to the reader of this report.
As an aside, the quotes are from individual emails (I understand) and maybe the authors weren’t aware their words may have to be reproduced in a report. Not that there’s a particular issue with the quotes here but moving forward we may want to put that upfront to them when they put forward such requests, if only out of courtesy. (if that is not already the case, I don’t know…)
Hope this is helpful.
Regards,
Philippe
*From:* council [mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Heather Forrest *Sent:* Wednesday, September 05, 2018 6:34 AM *To:* GNSO Council List *Subject:* [council] PDP Leadership Travel Support Pilot report - any objections
Dear Council colleagues,
As noted on in our August GNSO Council meeting, we received in the FY18 budget process funding through the Additional Budget Request (ABR) mechanism to run a pilot of travel funding for a limited number of our PDP Chairs/leaders who otherwise would not have received funding to attend an ICANN public meeting.
We are required under the Additional Budget Request process to provide a report summarising how the funds were used, and how they contributed to our activities.
Donna, Rafik and I put the attached report to your attention; if you have any objections or proposed amendments, please could you post these to the Council list by next Monday, 10 September?
Many thanks and best wishes,
Heather, on behalf of Council leadership team
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
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Heather That would seem like a reasonable approach. It’s important that this kind of program is respected. For some people this kind of support is the difference between their engagement or not. Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ https://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Heather Forrest <haforrestesq@gmail.com> Date: Wednesday 5 September 2018 at 13:30 To: GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] PDP Leadership Travel Support Pilot report - any objections Thanks also, Michele - I wonder if your comments are most powerful in the context of the next time the pilot is employed (ie, when we seek applications from PDP leaders for funding)? We could note in this report that this is something that we'll take up more robustly in the next pilot. Best wishes, Heather On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 9:51 PM Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com<mailto:michele@blacknight.com>> wrote: Agree with Philippe’s notes I’d also think we need to flesh out that without the travel support they wouldn’t have been able to attend bit. Simply stating that there’s no other travel support doesn’t mean that they wouldn’t have been able to attend. However at the same time I don’t think we need to be prying too deeply into people’s finances etc., Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ https://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>> on behalf of "philippe.fouquart@orange.com<mailto:philippe.fouquart@orange.com>" <philippe.fouquart@orange.com<mailto:philippe.fouquart@orange.com>> Date: Wednesday 5 September 2018 at 09:37 To: Heather Forrest <haforrestesq@gmail.com<mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com>>, GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Subject: Re: [council] PDP Leadership Travel Support Pilot report - any objections Heather and Council leadership, Thanks this, no objection, I think it’s very good. Merely a suggestion: (**) could be made explicit in a summary after those notes. I don’t have the words but the point is that overall what I understand to be “1 partial support and 1 full support” for the leaders of what is the core activity of GSNO, this is “little money well spent”, to us and should be to the reader of this report. As an aside, the quotes are from individual emails (I understand) and maybe the authors weren’t aware their words may have to be reproduced in a report. Not that there’s a particular issue with the quotes here but moving forward we may want to put that upfront to them when they put forward such requests, if only out of courtesy. (if that is not already the case, I don’t know…) Hope this is helpful. Regards, Philippe From: council [mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>] On Behalf Of Heather Forrest Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 6:34 AM To: GNSO Council List Subject: [council] PDP Leadership Travel Support Pilot report - any objections Dear Council colleagues, As noted on in our August GNSO Council meeting, we received in the FY18 budget process funding through the Additional Budget Request (ABR) mechanism to run a pilot of travel funding for a limited number of our PDP Chairs/leaders who otherwise would not have received funding to attend an ICANN public meeting. We are required under the Additional Budget Request process to provide a report summarising how the funds were used, and how they contributed to our activities. Donna, Rafik and I put the attached report to your attention; if you have any objections or proposed amendments, please could you post these to the Council list by next Monday, 10 September? Many thanks and best wishes, Heather, on behalf of Council leadership team _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. Merci. This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged information that may be protected by law; they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this message and its attachments. 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I think it is essential that we pay attention to rewarding the people who do the work. Even if an employer is paying to support travel, the time it takes to bring a PDP in for a landing these days may raise eyebrows at the average workplace. Support is helpful. Stephanie On 2018-09-05 12:37, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
Heather
That would seem like a reasonable approach. It’s important that this kind of program is respected. For some people this kind of support is the difference between their engagement or not.
Regards
Michele
--
Mr Michele Neylon
Blacknight Solutions
Hosting, Colocation & Domains
Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072
Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090
Personal blog: https://michele.blog/
Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/
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*From: *council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Heather Forrest <haforrestesq@gmail.com> *Date: *Wednesday 5 September 2018 at 13:30 *To: *GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org> *Subject: *Re: [council] PDP Leadership Travel Support Pilot report - any objections
Thanks also, Michele - I wonder if your comments are most powerful in the context of the next time the pilot is employed (ie, when we seek applications from PDP leaders for funding)? We could note in this report that this is something that we'll take up more robustly in the next pilot.
Best wishes,
Heather
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 9:51 PM Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com <mailto:michele@blacknight.com>> wrote:
Agree with Philippe’s notes
I’d also think we need to flesh out that without the travel support they wouldn’t have been able to attend bit. Simply stating that there’s no other travel support doesn’t mean that they wouldn’t have been able to attend. However at the same time I don’t think we need to be prying too deeply into people’s finances etc.,
Regards
Michele
--
Mr Michele Neylon
Blacknight Solutions
Hosting, Colocation & Domains
Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072
Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090
Personal blog: https://michele.blog/
Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/
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Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845
*From: *council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org <mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>> on behalf of "philippe.fouquart@orange.com <mailto:philippe.fouquart@orange.com>" <philippe.fouquart@orange.com <mailto:philippe.fouquart@orange.com>> *Date: *Wednesday 5 September 2018 at 09:37 *To: *Heather Forrest <haforrestesq@gmail.com <mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com>>, GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org <mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> *Subject: *Re: [council] PDP Leadership Travel Support Pilot report - any objections
Heather and Council leadership,
Thanks this, no objection, I think it’s very good.
Merely a suggestion: (**) could be made explicit in a summary after those notes. I don’t have the words but the point is that overall what I understand to be “1 partial support and 1 full support” for the leaders of what is the core activity of GSNO, this is “little money well spent”, to us and should be to the reader of this report.
As an aside, the quotes are from individual emails (I understand) and maybe the authors weren’t aware their words may have to be reproduced in a report. Not that there’s a particular issue with the quotes here but moving forward we may want to put that upfront to them when they put forward such requests, if only out of courtesy. (if that is not already the case, I don’t know…)
Hope this is helpful.
Regards,
Philippe
*From:*council [mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org <mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *Heather Forrest *Sent:* Wednesday, September 05, 2018 6:34 AM *To:* GNSO Council List *Subject:* [council] PDP Leadership Travel Support Pilot report - any objections
Dear Council colleagues,
As noted on in our August GNSO Council meeting, we received in the FY18 budget process funding through the Additional Budget Request (ABR) mechanism to run a pilot of travel funding for a limited number of our PDP Chairs/leaders who otherwise would not have received funding to attend an ICANN public meeting.
We are required under the Additional Budget Request process to provide a report summarising how the funds were used, and how they contributed to our activities.
Donna, Rafik and I put the attached report to your attention; if you have any objections or proposed amendments, please could you post these to the Council list by next Monday, 10 September?
Many thanks and best wishes,
Heather, on behalf of Council leadership team
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
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Stephanie Tell me about it. Without some level of travel support I’d have a lot of difficulty being involved. Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ https://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> Date: Wednesday 5 September 2018 at 17:44 To: "council@gnso.icann.org" <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] PDP Leadership Travel Support Pilot report - any objections I think it is essential that we pay attention to rewarding the people who do the work. Even if an employer is paying to support travel, the time it takes to bring a PDP in for a landing these days may raise eyebrows at the average workplace. Support is helpful. Stephanie On 2018-09-05 12:37, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote: Heather That would seem like a reasonable approach. It’s important that this kind of program is respected. For some people this kind of support is the difference between their engagement or not. Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ https://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org><mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Heather Forrest <haforrestesq@gmail.com><mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com> Date: Wednesday 5 September 2018 at 13:30 To: GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org><mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] PDP Leadership Travel Support Pilot report - any objections Thanks also, Michele - I wonder if your comments are most powerful in the context of the next time the pilot is employed (ie, when we seek applications from PDP leaders for funding)? We could note in this report that this is something that we'll take up more robustly in the next pilot. Best wishes, Heather On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 9:51 PM Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com<mailto:michele@blacknight.com>> wrote: Agree with Philippe’s notes I’d also think we need to flesh out that without the travel support they wouldn’t have been able to attend bit. Simply stating that there’s no other travel support doesn’t mean that they wouldn’t have been able to attend. However at the same time I don’t think we need to be prying too deeply into people’s finances etc., Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ https://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>> on behalf of "philippe.fouquart@orange.com<mailto:philippe.fouquart@orange.com>" <philippe.fouquart@orange.com<mailto:philippe.fouquart@orange.com>> Date: Wednesday 5 September 2018 at 09:37 To: Heather Forrest <haforrestesq@gmail.com<mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com>>, GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Subject: Re: [council] PDP Leadership Travel Support Pilot report - any objections Heather and Council leadership, Thanks this, no objection, I think it’s very good. Merely a suggestion: (**) could be made explicit in a summary after those notes. I don’t have the words but the point is that overall what I understand to be “1 partial support and 1 full support” for the leaders of what is the core activity of GSNO, this is “little money well spent”, to us and should be to the reader of this report. As an aside, the quotes are from individual emails (I understand) and maybe the authors weren’t aware their words may have to be reproduced in a report. Not that there’s a particular issue with the quotes here but moving forward we may want to put that upfront to them when they put forward such requests, if only out of courtesy. (if that is not already the case, I don’t know…) Hope this is helpful. Regards, Philippe From: council [mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>] On Behalf Of Heather Forrest Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 6:34 AM To: GNSO Council List Subject: [council] PDP Leadership Travel Support Pilot report - any objections Dear Council colleagues, As noted on in our August GNSO Council meeting, we received in the FY18 budget process funding through the Additional Budget Request (ABR) mechanism to run a pilot of travel funding for a limited number of our PDP Chairs/leaders who otherwise would not have received funding to attend an ICANN public meeting. We are required under the Additional Budget Request process to provide a report summarising how the funds were used, and how they contributed to our activities. Donna, Rafik and I put the attached report to your attention; if you have any objections or proposed amendments, please could you post these to the Council list by next Monday, 10 September? Many thanks and best wishes, Heather, on behalf of Council leadership team _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. Merci. This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged information that may be protected by law; they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this message and its attachments. 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I agree with you all. My full support to the initiative. Best, Martín
On 5 Sep 2018, at 13:52, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com> wrote:
Stephanie
Tell me about it. Without some level of travel support I’d have a lot of difficulty being involved.
Regards
Michele
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From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> Date: Wednesday 5 September 2018 at 17:44 To: "council@gnso.icann.org" <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] PDP Leadership Travel Support Pilot report - any objections
I think it is essential that we pay attention to rewarding the people who do the work. Even if an employer is paying to support travel, the time it takes to bring a PDP in for a landing these days may raise eyebrows at the average workplace. Support is helpful. Stephanie On 2018-09-05 12:37, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
Heather
That would seem like a reasonable approach. It’s important that this kind of program is respected. For some people this kind of support is the difference between their engagement or not.
Regards
Michele
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From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> <mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Heather Forrest <haforrestesq@gmail.com> <mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com> Date: Wednesday 5 September 2018 at 13:30 To: GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org> <mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] PDP Leadership Travel Support Pilot report - any objections
Thanks also, Michele - I wonder if your comments are most powerful in the context of the next time the pilot is employed (ie, when we seek applications from PDP leaders for funding)? We could note in this report that this is something that we'll take up more robustly in the next pilot.
Best wishes,
Heather
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 9:51 PM Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com <mailto:michele@blacknight.com>> wrote:
Agree with Philippe’s notes I’d also think we need to flesh out that without the travel support they wouldn’t have been able to attend bit. Simply stating that there’s no other travel support doesn’t mean that they wouldn’t have been able to attend. However at the same time I don’t think we need to be prying too deeply into people’s finances etc.,
Regards
Michele
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From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org <mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>> on behalf of "philippe.fouquart@orange.com <mailto:philippe.fouquart@orange.com>" <philippe.fouquart@orange.com <mailto:philippe.fouquart@orange.com>> Date: Wednesday 5 September 2018 at 09:37 To: Heather Forrest <haforrestesq@gmail.com <mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com>>, GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org <mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Subject: Re: [council] PDP Leadership Travel Support Pilot report - any objections
Heather and Council leadership,
Thanks this, no objection, I think it’s very good.
Merely a suggestion: (**) could be made explicit in a summary after those notes. I don’t have the words but the point is that overall what I understand to be “1 partial support and 1 full support” for the leaders of what is the core activity of GSNO, this is “little money well spent”, to us and should be to the reader of this report.
As an aside, the quotes are from individual emails (I understand) and maybe the authors weren’t aware their words may have to be reproduced in a report. Not that there’s a particular issue with the quotes here but moving forward we may want to put that upfront to them when they put forward such requests, if only out of courtesy. (if that is not already the case, I don’t know…)
Hope this is helpful. Regards, Philippe
From: council [mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org <mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>] On Behalf Of Heather Forrest Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 6:34 AM To: GNSO Council List Subject: [council] PDP Leadership Travel Support Pilot report - any objections
Dear Council colleagues,
As noted on in our August GNSO Council meeting, we received in the FY18 budget process funding through the Additional Budget Request (ABR) mechanism to run a pilot of travel funding for a limited number of our PDP Chairs/leaders who otherwise would not have received funding to attend an ICANN public meeting.
We are required under the Additional Budget Request process to provide a report summarising how the funds were used, and how they contributed to our activities.
Donna, Rafik and I put the attached report to your attention; if you have any objections or proposed amendments, please could you post these to the Council list by next Monday, 10 September?
Many thanks and best wishes,
Heather, on behalf of Council leadership team _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
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On 05-09-18 18:52, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
Tell me about it. Without some level of travel support I’d have a lot of difficulty being involved.
Likewise - no way I could justify getting the companies I am associated with pay for my ICANN time. Having a hard time justifying it to my wife... Julf
Agreeing with Philippe and Michele. No further comment and no objection. Thank you Heather! Erika Erika Mann *Erika Mann* Senior European Policy Advisor Covington & Burling LLP Kunstlaan 44 Avenue des Arts, B-1040 Brussels T +32 498 12 13 54 | emann@cov.com www.cov.com [image: cid:image001.png@01D17628.B2AE6CC0] On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 1:51 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight < michele@blacknight.com> wrote:
Agree with Philippe’s notes
I’d also think we need to flesh out that without the travel support they wouldn’t have been able to attend bit. Simply stating that there’s no other travel support doesn’t mean that they wouldn’t have been able to attend. However at the same time I don’t think we need to be prying too deeply into people’s finances etc.,
Regards
Michele
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*From: *council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of " philippe.fouquart@orange.com" <philippe.fouquart@orange.com> *Date: *Wednesday 5 September 2018 at 09:37 *To: *Heather Forrest <haforrestesq@gmail.com>, GNSO Council List < council@gnso.icann.org> *Subject: *Re: [council] PDP Leadership Travel Support Pilot report - any objections
Heather and Council leadership,
Thanks this, no objection, I think it’s very good.
Merely a suggestion: (**) could be made explicit in a summary after those notes. I don’t have the words but the point is that overall what I understand to be “1 partial support and 1 full support” for the leaders of what is the core activity of GSNO, this is “little money well spent”, to us and should be to the reader of this report.
As an aside, the quotes are from individual emails (I understand) and maybe the authors weren’t aware their words may have to be reproduced in a report. Not that there’s a particular issue with the quotes here but moving forward we may want to put that upfront to them when they put forward such requests, if only out of courtesy. (if that is not already the case, I don’t know…)
Hope this is helpful.
Regards,
Philippe
*From:* council [mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Heather Forrest *Sent:* Wednesday, September 05, 2018 6:34 AM *To:* GNSO Council List *Subject:* [council] PDP Leadership Travel Support Pilot report - any objections
Dear Council colleagues,
As noted on in our August GNSO Council meeting, we received in the FY18 budget process funding through the Additional Budget Request (ABR) mechanism to run a pilot of travel funding for a limited number of our PDP Chairs/leaders who otherwise would not have received funding to attend an ICANN public meeting.
We are required under the Additional Budget Request process to provide a report summarising how the funds were used, and how they contributed to our activities.
Donna, Rafik and I put the attached report to your attention; if you have any objections or proposed amendments, please could you post these to the Council list by next Monday, 10 September?
Many thanks and best wishes,
Heather, on behalf of Council leadership team
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
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Many thanks, Philippe - very helpful input. Best wishes, Heather On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 6:37 PM <philippe.fouquart@orange.com> wrote:
Heather and Council leadership,
Thanks this, no objection, I think it’s very good.
Merely a suggestion: (**) could be made explicit in a summary after those notes. I don’t have the words but the point is that overall what I understand to be “1 partial support and 1 full support” for the leaders of what is the core activity of GSNO, this is “little money well spent”, to us and should be to the reader of this report.
As an aside, the quotes are from individual emails (I understand) and maybe the authors weren’t aware their words may have to be reproduced in a report. Not that there’s a particular issue with the quotes here but moving forward we may want to put that upfront to them when they put forward such requests, if only out of courtesy. (if that is not already the case, I don’t know…)
Hope this is helpful.
Regards,
Philippe
*From:* council [mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Heather Forrest *Sent:* Wednesday, September 05, 2018 6:34 AM *To:* GNSO Council List *Subject:* [council] PDP Leadership Travel Support Pilot report - any objections
Dear Council colleagues,
As noted on in our August GNSO Council meeting, we received in the FY18 budget process funding through the Additional Budget Request (ABR) mechanism to run a pilot of travel funding for a limited number of our PDP Chairs/leaders who otherwise would not have received funding to attend an ICANN public meeting.
We are required under the Additional Budget Request process to provide a report summarising how the funds were used, and how they contributed to our activities.
Donna, Rafik and I put the attached report to your attention; if you have any objections or proposed amendments, please could you post these to the Council list by next Monday, 10 September?
Many thanks and best wishes,
Heather, on behalf of Council leadership team
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
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Echoing all of the earlier comments, I too support this ABR — it is a pity it does not cover a delegate’s travel for the entirety of an ICANN meeting and just covers three days, as the people being supported through this program have a need, I would think, to be present for the entire duration of an ICANN meeting. Secondly, I think our current metrics are a little weak. They are fine for now, but we might want to think about beefing them up. Measuring the ROI of travel funding to a volunteer contributor is not a new concept; perhaps we could look at how the Ford Foundation or another organisation with a large travel budget does their evaluations and benchmark our more modest support against their criteria. I say this in part because I think we’d score really well. Finally, do we know who is on the “ABR Evaluation Team”? It might be worthwhile to see if we can coordinate a meeting with them (if that is possible) so we can understand how helpful/useful they found our metrics, or whether they have any feedback on what they would like to see us reporting back. Ayden
On 5 Sep 2018, at 06:34, Heather Forrest <haforrestesq@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Council colleagues,
As noted on in our August GNSO Council meeting, we received in the FY18 budget process funding through the Additional Budget Request (ABR) mechanism to run a pilot of travel funding for a limited number of our PDP Chairs/leaders who otherwise would not have received funding to attend an ICANN public meeting.
We are required under the Additional Budget Request process to provide a report summarising how the funds were used, and how they contributed to our activities.
Donna, Rafik and I put the attached report to your attention; if you have any objections or proposed amendments, please could you post these to the Council list by next Monday, 10 September?
Many thanks and best wishes,
Heather, on behalf of Council leadership team <FY19 PDP Leadership Travel Support Pilot - ICANN62 2018 09 05.docx>
Hello Ayden and everyone, In response to Ayden's question, the ABR Evaluation Team (i.e. the Request Assessment Team) comprises staff from the strategic community operations, planning and engagement team within the Policy Department (viz. the team that I now manage) along with staff from other departments which interact closely with the community (such as the Global Stakeholder Engagement and Public Responsibility Support Departments). The Evaluation (or Assessment) Team consults with ICANN's Finance Team and other relevant staff (depending on the specific ABRs under consideration) and reports to the senior executives responsible for Policy, GSE and Finance. All recommendations are first reviewed by the senior executives before they are finalized and sent to the Board via the Board Finance Committee as part of the overall FY budget planning and approval process. If I may, and having helped shepherd the last ABR process through, I think it will be very helpful if all community groups submitting ABRs include clear, achievable objectives and precise, meaningful metrics in their requests that align with the role, scope and goals of the respective community. The Assessment Team looks at all requests submitted very carefully and thoroughly, and as stated in the ABR Principles, all requests "must be consistent with the charter of the requesting community group" and "must be resolved within the parameters of [i.e. what is stated by the relevant group in its request) the request" (see https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/74584652/Community%20Special%20Budget%20Request%20Principles%20%28FY19%29.pdf?version=2&modificationDate=1518204458000&api=v2). For pilot programs - such as the GNSO PDP chairs' travel pilot - assessments are always conducted before a decision is made as to whether or not a program should be considered part of the core (rather than ABR) budget from year to year. I hope this is helpful. Please let me know if the Council - or, indeed, any of the stakeholder groups and constituencies which you represent - will find it helpful to meet with representatives of the Assessment Team. Thanks and cheers Mary (briefly wearing my non-GNSO staff hat!) _____________________ On 9/5/18, 17:45, "council on behalf of Ayden Férdeline" <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org on behalf of icann@ferdeline.com> wrote: Echoing all of the earlier comments, I too support this ABR — it is a pity it does not cover a delegate’s travel for the entirety of an ICANN meeting and just covers three days, as the people being supported through this program have a need, I would think, to be present for the entire duration of an ICANN meeting. Secondly, I think our current metrics are a little weak. They are fine for now, but we might want to think about beefing them up. Measuring the ROI of travel funding to a volunteer contributor is not a new concept; perhaps we could look at how the Ford Foundation or another organisation with a large travel budget does their evaluations and benchmark our more modest support against their criteria. I say this in part because I think we’d score really well. Finally, do we know who is on the “ABR Evaluation Team”? It might be worthwhile to see if we can coordinate a meeting with them (if that is possible) so we can understand how helpful/useful they found our metrics, or whether they have any feedback on what they would like to see us reporting back. Ayden > On 5 Sep 2018, at 06:34, Heather Forrest <haforrestesq@gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear Council colleagues, > > As noted on in our August GNSO Council meeting, we received in the FY18 budget process funding through the Additional Budget Request (ABR) mechanism to run a pilot of travel funding for a limited number of our PDP Chairs/leaders who otherwise would not have received funding to attend an ICANN public meeting. > > We are required under the Additional Budget Request process to provide a report summarising how the funds were used, and how they contributed to our activities. > > Donna, Rafik and I put the attached report to your attention; if you have any objections or proposed amendments, please could you post these to the Council list by next Monday, 10 September? > > Many thanks and best wishes, > > Heather, on behalf of Council leadership team > <FY19 PDP Leadership Travel Support Pilot - ICANN62 2018 09 05.docx> _______________________________________________ council mailing list council@gnso.icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/council
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