Dear Councillors, Please find the Adobe Connect Chat transcript from the GNSO Council meeting on 17 November 2011.

Marika Konings:GNSO Council Meeting - 17 November 2011 Carlos Dionisio Aguirre:Hi all, im waiting operator call me Carlos Dionisio Aguirre:thanks . Im here now Jeff Neuman:Just talked to Mason...he just landed and will join in a couple of minutes Wendy Seltzer:Joy is just dialing in Mason Cole:Hi everyone Bill Drake:Can I ask CSG colleagues: were you represented on the team that developed this? Yoav Keren:Hi all, sorry for delay. Had a personal unplanned delay. Zahid Jamil:Thanks Bill, having that carification would be helpful Zahid Jamil:We should not let bottom up processes be defetated - hopefullly the slight clarification can help Bill Drake:@Zahid it's fair to say nobody wants to defeat bottom up etc etc. But there's value in not doing everything in silos. The idea is coordination between levels, not one precludes the other. Alan Greenberg:The GNSO is in general, SO opaque that efforts such as the ones described in the charter can only help. Zahid Jamil:I support coordination - I would also support - the TF - just need clarification to allay fears in our constituency Wendy Seltzer:I keep dropping off Adobe Jeff Neuman:So Zahid, can you guys work this out and fix it in the next few weeks? Zahid Jamil:I think a one line amendment saying exaclty what Bill mentioned and I agreed with should work Jeff Neuman:Bill? Jeff Neuman:Sorry..Bill...do you agree? Bill Drake:@Jeff I don't see what's broken that needs fixing over the next couple weeks. Zahid asked if this precludes CSG getting funding. Can't see how it does. So what do we need to do? Bill Drake:??? Bill Drake:We really in procedural blue skies here... Wolf Knoben:I abstain Bill Drake:But nobody has said what will be accomplished/done with the deferral....? rafik dammak:effort started more than 2 years now, well lets take more time... Jeff Neuman:@Bill - I would like to see Zahid propose the clarification to the motion/charter and to see your input on that Jeff Neuman:We need a seconder on both motions rafik dammak:@jeff joy is the seconder John Berard:who is the second on Mary's motion? rafik dammak:@jeff sorry r u talking about the urdp motion? Jeff Neuman:@Rafik...yes on udrp Liz Gasster:@ Jeff and Bill, Zahid, John -- staff can help draft a revised motion unless you would like the drafting team to revise the charter - in that case a motion could direct the DT to do that Liz Gasster:on Outreach Joy:I am seconding Mary's motion Alan Greenberg:RE: PEDNR, that being said, the reference in the 3rd resolve would effectively be no-op and therefore not invalid (it just would not require any work). Zahid Jamil:@Liz re Outreach- I would be happy to join that effort and encourage you to to do so. Marika Konings:I've just added it in Adobe Connect Bill Drake:@Liz I would think we should hear first from CSG something about they'd want before geting staff into revising Liz Gasster:@ Zahid - a motion to reconvene the DT or requests "interested Council members" to revise the charter with staff? TRying to figure out the exact preferred next step you all would like Zahid Jamil:Any review needs to be olistic, in context and should not disrupt the new gTLD launch Zahid Jamil:@ Liz - reconvening may work - I will get back to you on that after discussing with BC Bill Drake:@Zahid, so is your stance now that we need to redo the whole charter, rather than just the motion? Zahid Jamil:no - I would rather we simply amend this motion/charter rather than do a grueling do over Zahid Jamil:but need to share suggestion with BC Zahid Jamil:ie share Liz'a suggestion Bill Drake:Suggestion to "revise the charter with staff"? Zahid Jamil:suggestion for reconvening - but would suggest we try and see if we can go with her first option of working with staff to reword Wolf Knoben:@Bill, Zahid - I'd like to amend the motion including elements improving the charter David Taylor:Freindly amendment RESOLVED further, the GNSO Council requests a new Issue Report on the current state of all rights protection mechanisms implemented for both existing and new gTLDs, including but not limited to, the UDRP and URS, should be prepared with staff commencing the drafting of this report eighteen (18) months after the publication of at least a 100 UDRP or URS that cover at least 10 new gTLDs. Such report should be delivered to the GNSO Council within four (4) months of that trigger date. Zahid Jamil:@ Wolf - maybe we could work with BIll on doing that with staff help as offeered by Liz - may avoid a redo Alan Greenberg:really should say 18 months PROVIDING the thresholds are passed. Wolf Knoben:@Zahid - yes, I join the effort. Maybe Liz could take the initiative?? Julie Hedlund:@Wolf and @Zahid I can support that work on outreach. I supported the DT for the charter Zahid Jamil:@Liz - maybe we could initiate a list with some suggested languages from you, joining in Bill, Wendy, John, Wolf , Jeff and me and any others that may wish to join Zahid Jamil:Thanks Julie Julie Hedlund:@Zahid I'll take the lead Julie Hedlund:@Zahid to clarify is this a list of revisions to the charter that would be included in a new motion? Julie Hedlund:perhaps to be presented for the next Council meeting? Zahid Jamil:@ yes and yes Zahid Jamil:@Julie yes and yed Julie Hedlund:Great -- @Zahid -- thank you. I'll start it up Joy:i would be happy to assist Julie Hedlund:@Joy -- to clarify on a revised outreach motion? Joy:oh sorry = i thought you were on Jeff's motion - apologies Wendy Seltzer:Is the audio stream down? Julie Hedlund:@Joy -- thanks it's gets confusing! Marika Konings:@Wendy - the line got disconnected, but they are trying to reconnect Wendy Seltzer:thanks Marika, several of our members are listening Marika Konings:@Wendy, we are working on it, but there seem to be some issues with the line Marika Konings:Apologies for the inconvenience Wendy Seltzer:in queue, keep dropping out of adobe Joy:Mason there is some background noise - it sounds like you are in a chime store Mason Cole:Oh, sorry Joy....I guess that means I can "chime in"??? Mason Cole:terrible joke, sorry Joy::-) oh very good! Wolf Knoben:Margie, could you send a copy of your presentation to the list? Thanks Bill Drake:Apparently the audiocast is down again Zahid Jamil:@ Marika - I think thats a good suggestion Marika Konings:@Bill - we are still working on it, but it looks like the line is back up again? Wendy Seltzer:thanks, Marika, confirmed David Taylor:@Alan: agree with your suggestion. Thanks. Alan Greenberg:@David - glad to help. Zahid Jamil:Thanks Stephane Wendy Seltzer:Did we do better timezone rotation of these new dates? Wendy Seltzer:Please re-send the dates.. Glen de saint Gery:Yes I will resend the Council dates and times Joy:thanks Stephane David Taylor:Thanks all Jeff Neuman:thanks

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