Topics for Board/Staff/GNSO Dinner Meeting in Nairobi
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An agenda item for the 18 Feb Council meeting will be to finalize discussion topics for the Board/Staff/GNSO Dinner Meeting in Nairobi, In preparation for that, I would like to request that Councilors propose topics this week. Discussion of proposed topics is also encouraged on the list. Chuck
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I don't believe that there were any responses to this last week. It would be helpful to receive some suggestions before our 18 Feb meeting so that we can hopefully finallize the topics then. Chuck ________________________________ From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 6:17 PM To: GNSO Council List Subject: [council] Topics for Board/Staff/GNSO Dinner Meeting in Nairobi An agenda item for the 18 Feb Council meeting will be to finalize discussion topics for the Board/Staff/GNSO Dinner Meeting in Nairobi, In preparation for that, I would like to request that Councilors propose topics this week. Discussion of proposed topics is also encouraged on the list. Chuck
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Hi Chuck, The main area of worry that I see remains the ever-delaying new gTLD program. Would it be appropriate to suggest a topic along those lines (perhaps something like: "are delays to the new gTLD program hurting it and ICANN as a whole", or something more neutral like "suggestions to solve remaining overarching issues in 2010 and avoid further delays spilling into 2011")? I realize some may not feel at ease being upfront about this. However, I do think GNSO Principle A is getting more and more often overlooked as time passes and that reminders that the GNSO's first focus was on the new gTLDs being introduced in a "orderly, timely and predictable way", the operative words here being timely and predictable, are warranted. I'm sure we all realise that for prospective applicants, the current process is neither timely nor predictable... Thanks, Stéphane Le 9 févr. 2010 à 02:40, Gomes, Chuck a écrit :
I don't believe that there were any responses to this last week. It would be helpful to receive some suggestions before our 18 Feb meeting so that we can hopefully finallize the topics then.
Chuck
From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 6:17 PM To: GNSO Council List Subject: [council] Topics for Board/Staff/GNSO Dinner Meeting in Nairobi
An agenda item for the 18 Feb Council meeting will be to finalize discussion topics for the Board/Staff/GNSO Dinner Meeting in Nairobi, In preparation for that, I would like to request that Councilors propose topics this week. Discussion of proposed topics is also encouraged on the list.
Chuck
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Thanks Stephan. How about simplifying it to something like this: 'Ongoing delays for new gTLDs'? Chuck ________________________________ From: Stéphane Van Gelder [mailto:stephane.vangelder@indom.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 5:10 AM To: Gomes, Chuck Cc: GNSO Council List Subject: Re: [council] Topics for Board/Staff/GNSO Dinner Meeting in Nairobi Hi Chuck, The main area of worry that I see remains the ever-delaying new gTLD program. Would it be appropriate to suggest a topic along those lines (perhaps something like: "are delays to the new gTLD program hurting it and ICANN as a whole", or something more neutral like "suggestions to solve remaining overarching issues in 2010 and avoid further delays spilling into 2011")? I realize some may not feel at ease being upfront about this. However, I do think GNSO Principle A is getting more and more often overlooked as time passes and that reminders that the GNSO's first focus was on the new gTLDs being introduced in a "orderly, timely and predictable way", the operative words here being timely and predictable, are warranted. I'm sure we all realise that for prospective applicants, the current process is neither timely nor predictable... Thanks, Stéphane Le 9 févr. 2010 à 02:40, Gomes, Chuck a écrit : I don't believe that there were any responses to this last week. It would be helpful to receive some suggestions before our 18 Feb meeting so that we can hopefully finallize the topics then. Chuck ________________________________ From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 6:17 PM To: GNSO Council List Subject: [council] Topics for Board/Staff/GNSO Dinner Meeting in Nairobi An agenda item for the 18 Feb Council meeting will be to finalize discussion topics for the Board/Staff/GNSO Dinner Meeting in Nairobi, In preparation for that, I would like to request that Councilors propose topics this week. Discussion of proposed topics is also encouraged on the list. Chuck
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I agree, and would support the stronger phrasing. I think we need to help make management and Board more conscious of the risks to the organization of continued delay. --Wendy Stéphane Van Gelder wrote:
Hi Chuck,
The main area of worry that I see remains the ever-delaying new gTLD program.
Would it be appropriate to suggest a topic along those lines (perhaps something like: "are delays to the new gTLD program hurting it and ICANN as a whole", or something more neutral like "suggestions to solve remaining overarching issues in 2010 and avoid further delays spilling into 2011")?
I realize some may not feel at ease being upfront about this. However, I do think GNSO Principle A is getting more and more often overlooked as time passes and that reminders that the GNSO's first focus was on the new gTLDs being introduced in a "orderly, timely and predictable way", the operative words here being timely and predictable, are warranted.
I'm sure we all realise that for prospective applicants, the current process is neither timely nor predictable...
Thanks,
Stéphane
Le 9 févr. 2010 à 02:40, Gomes, Chuck a écrit :
I don't believe that there were any responses to this last week. It would be helpful to receive some suggestions before our 18 Feb meeting so that we can hopefully finallize the topics then.
Chuck
From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 6:17 PM To: GNSO Council List Subject: [council] Topics for Board/Staff/GNSO Dinner Meeting in Nairobi
An agenda item for the 18 Feb Council meeting will be to finalize discussion topics for the Board/Staff/GNSO Dinner Meeting in Nairobi, In preparation for that, I would like to request that Councilors propose topics this week. Discussion of proposed topics is also encouraged on the list.
Chuck
-- Wendy Seltzer -- wendy@seltzer.org phone: +1.914.374.0613 Fellow, Silicon Flatirons Center at University of Colorado Law School Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society at Harvard University http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/seltzer.html http://www.chillingeffects.org/ https://www.torproject.org/
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I support Wendy here. Adrian Kinderis -----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Wendy Seltzer Sent: Wednesday, 10 February 2010 1:10 AM To: Stéphane Van Gelder Cc: Gomes, Chuck; GNSO Council List Subject: Re: [council] Topics for Board/Staff/GNSO Dinner Meeting in Nairobi I agree, and would support the stronger phrasing. I think we need to help make management and Board more conscious of the risks to the organization of continued delay. --Wendy Stéphane Van Gelder wrote:
Hi Chuck,
The main area of worry that I see remains the ever-delaying new gTLD program.
Would it be appropriate to suggest a topic along those lines (perhaps something like: "are delays to the new gTLD program hurting it and ICANN as a whole", or something more neutral like "suggestions to solve remaining overarching issues in 2010 and avoid further delays spilling into 2011")?
I realize some may not feel at ease being upfront about this. However, I do think GNSO Principle A is getting more and more often overlooked as time passes and that reminders that the GNSO's first focus was on the new gTLDs being introduced in a "orderly, timely and predictable way", the operative words here being timely and predictable, are warranted.
I'm sure we all realise that for prospective applicants, the current process is neither timely nor predictable...
Thanks,
Stéphane
Le 9 févr. 2010 à 02:40, Gomes, Chuck a écrit :
I don't believe that there were any responses to this last week. It would be helpful to receive some suggestions before our 18 Feb meeting so that we can hopefully finallize the topics then.
Chuck
From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 6:17 PM To: GNSO Council List Subject: [council] Topics for Board/Staff/GNSO Dinner Meeting in Nairobi
An agenda item for the 18 Feb Council meeting will be to finalize discussion topics for the Board/Staff/GNSO Dinner Meeting in Nairobi, In preparation for that, I would like to request that Councilors propose topics this week. Discussion of proposed topics is also encouraged on the list.
Chuck
-- Wendy Seltzer -- wendy@seltzer.org phone: +1.914.374.0613 Fellow, Silicon Flatirons Center at University of Colorado Law School Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society at Harvard University http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/seltzer.html http://www.chillingeffects.org/ https://www.torproject.org/
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Supported. Isn't that an item for the joint GNSO/GAC meeting in Nairobi, too? Kind regards Wolf-Ulrich -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] Im Auftrag von Adrian Kinderis Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Februar 2010 23:58 An: Wendy Seltzer; Stéphane Van Gelder Cc: Gomes, Chuck; GNSO Council List Betreff: RE: [council] Topics for Board/Staff/GNSO Dinner Meeting in Nairobi I support Wendy here. Adrian Kinderis -----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Wendy Seltzer Sent: Wednesday, 10 February 2010 1:10 AM To: Stéphane Van Gelder Cc: Gomes, Chuck; GNSO Council List Subject: Re: [council] Topics for Board/Staff/GNSO Dinner Meeting in Nairobi I agree, and would support the stronger phrasing. I think we need to help make management and Board more conscious of the risks to the organization of continued delay. --Wendy Stéphane Van Gelder wrote:
Hi Chuck,
The main area of worry that I see remains the ever-delaying new gTLD program.
Would it be appropriate to suggest a topic along those lines (perhaps something like: "are delays to the new gTLD program hurting it and ICANN as a whole", or something more neutral like "suggestions to solve remaining overarching issues in 2010 and avoid further delays spilling into 2011")?
I realize some may not feel at ease being upfront about this. However, I do think GNSO Principle A is getting more and more often overlooked as time passes and that reminders that the GNSO's first focus was on the new gTLDs being introduced in a "orderly, timely and predictable way", the operative words here being timely and predictable, are warranted.
I'm sure we all realise that for prospective applicants, the current process is neither timely nor predictable...
Thanks,
Stéphane
Le 9 févr. 2010 à 02:40, Gomes, Chuck a écrit :
I don't believe that there were any responses to this last week. It would be helpful to receive some suggestions before our 18 Feb meeting so that we can hopefully finallize the topics then.
Chuck
From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 6:17 PM To: GNSO Council List Subject: [council] Topics for Board/Staff/GNSO Dinner Meeting in Nairobi
An agenda item for the 18 Feb Council meeting will be to finalize discussion topics for the Board/Staff/GNSO Dinner Meeting in Nairobi, In preparation for that, I would like to request that Councilors propose topics this week. Discussion of proposed topics is also encouraged on the list.
Chuck
-- Wendy Seltzer -- wendy@seltzer.org phone: +1.914.374.0613 Fellow, Silicon Flatirons Center at University of Colorado Law School Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society at Harvard University http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/seltzer.html http://www.chillingeffects.org/ https://www.torproject.org/
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The topics for the joint GAC/GNSO meeting are New gTLDs including the EOI and the AoC. Under New gTLDs, the ongoing delays have not been specifically mentioned but we could bring it up in the discussion if we wanted to. Aren't working with Rosemary and Bill on that meeting? Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: KnobenW@telekom.de [mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:01 AM To: adrian@ausregistry.com.au; wendy@seltzer.com; stephane.vangelder@indom.com Cc: Gomes, Chuck; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: AW: [council] Topics for Board/Staff/GNSO Dinner Meeting in Nairobi
Supported. Isn't that an item for the joint GNSO/GAC meeting in Nairobi, too?
Kind regards Wolf-Ulrich
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] Im Auftrag von Adrian Kinderis Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Februar 2010 23:58 An: Wendy Seltzer; Stéphane Van Gelder Cc: Gomes, Chuck; GNSO Council List Betreff: RE: [council] Topics for Board/Staff/GNSO Dinner Meeting in Nairobi
I support Wendy here.
Adrian Kinderis
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Wendy Seltzer Sent: Wednesday, 10 February 2010 1:10 AM To: Stéphane Van Gelder Cc: Gomes, Chuck; GNSO Council List Subject: Re: [council] Topics for Board/Staff/GNSO Dinner Meeting in Nairobi
I agree, and would support the stronger phrasing. I think we need to help make management and Board more conscious of the risks to the organization of continued delay.
--Wendy
Hi Chuck,
The main area of worry that I see remains the ever-delaying new gTLD program.
Would it be appropriate to suggest a topic along those
Stéphane Van Gelder wrote: lines (perhaps something like: "are delays to the new gTLD program hurting it and ICANN as a whole", or something more neutral like "suggestions to solve remaining overarching issues in 2010 and avoid further delays spilling into 2011")?
I realize some may not feel at ease being upfront about
this. However, I do think GNSO Principle A is getting more and more often overlooked as time passes and that reminders that the GNSO's first focus was on the new gTLDs being introduced in a "orderly, timely and predictable way", the operative words here being timely and predictable, are warranted.
I'm sure we all realise that for prospective applicants,
the current process is neither timely nor predictable...
Thanks,
Stéphane
Le 9 févr. 2010 à 02:40, Gomes, Chuck a écrit :
I don't believe that there were any responses to this last
week. It would be helpful to receive some suggestions before our 18 Feb meeting so that we can hopefully finallize the topics then.
Chuck
From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 6:17 PM To: GNSO Council List Subject: [council] Topics for Board/Staff/GNSO Dinner Meeting in Nairobi
An agenda item for the 18 Feb Council meeting will be to
finalize discussion topics for the Board/Staff/GNSO Dinner Meeting in Nairobi, In preparation for that, I would like to request that Councilors propose topics this week. Discussion of proposed topics is also encouraged on the list.
Chuck
-- Wendy Seltzer -- wendy@seltzer.org phone: +1.914.374.0613 Fellow, Silicon Flatirons Center at University of Colorado Law School Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society at Harvard University http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/seltzer.html http://www.chillingeffects.org/ https://www.torproject.org/
participants (5)
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Adrian Kinderis
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Gomes, Chuck
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KnobenW@telekom.de
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Stéphane Van Gelder
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Wendy Seltzer