Re: [council] SECOND ROUND BALLOT
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On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 10:58:18AM -0500, Kiyoshi I. Tsuru wrote:
I haven't received my ballot either.
Hi Kiyoshi Your ballot was definitely sent to you, and, according to my logs, successfully received by your mail server. Unfortunately, the election is now closed, and there is nothing further that can be done about it. Had I known about your problem earlier it would have been very easy to send you another copy, but unfortunately, I didn't hear anything about a missing ballot until now. Your ballot was sent out at approximately 10 am PDT on June 15; here are the log entries of the ballot being sent, and received by your mail server: Jun 15 10:01:27 greenriver sendmail[28416]: k5FH1Rlt028416: from=<tally@icann.org>, size=3438, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<200606151701.k5FH1RbC028415@greenriver.icann.org>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=greenriver [127.0.0.1] Jun 15 10:01:28 greenriver sendmail[28418]: k5FH1Rlt028416: to=<ktsuru@bgmt.com.mx>, delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=33438, relay=mail.bgmt.com.mx. [72.32.2.231], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (ok 1150390885 qp 5155) Once at your mail server, of course, I can't track it further. The logs record 201 messages that have been successfully delivered to ktsuru@bgmt.com.mx over the past month or so. On two occasions, the messages were delayed a couple of hours; neither of these occasions was in the time frame of this election. Best Regards Kent Crispin -- kent@icann.org p: +1 310 823 9358 f: +1 310 823 8649
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This response is not directed at technical staff. However, this situation with voting is a little strange. Three people did not receive ballots, although technical staff validate the sending of ballots and receipt but not in the mailbox of the intended recipient. I ask that the election "team" work out a way to allow all councilors to vote. We have documented complaints about the flow and receipt of ballots. This needs to be addressed by the General counsel, and adm staff responsible for managing the election, and a process addressed for councilors who did not receive the ballots but stated their intention to vote. Let's not have a contested election over technical failures. I voted in the first round and have a "sent" message in my email outbox. Yet when I asked for verification of receipt, my vote was not received. The second round seems to have worked for me. Marilyn Regards, Marilyn Cade -----Original Message----- From: "'kent crispin'" <kent@icann.org> Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 11:57:00 To:council@gnso.icann.org Subject: Re: [council] SECOND ROUND BALLOT On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 10:58:18AM -0500, Kiyoshi I. Tsuru wrote:
I haven't received my ballot either.
Hi Kiyoshi Your ballot was definitely sent to you, and, according to my logs, successfully received by your mail server. Unfortunately, the election is now closed, and there is nothing further that can be done about it. Had I known about your problem earlier it would have been very easy to send you another copy, but unfortunately, I didn't hear anything about a missing ballot until now. Your ballot was sent out at approximately 10 am PDT on June 15; here are the log entries of the ballot being sent, and received by your mail server: Jun 15 10:01:27 greenriver sendmail[28416]: k5FH1Rlt028416: from=<tally@icann.org>, size=3438, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<200606151701.k5FH1RbC028415@greenriver.icann.org>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=greenriver [127.0.0.1] Jun 15 10:01:28 greenriver sendmail[28418]: k5FH1Rlt028416: to=<ktsuru@bgmt.com.mx>, delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=33438, relay=mail.bgmt.com.mx. [72.32.2.231], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (ok 1150390885 qp 5155) Once at your mail server, of course, I can't track it further. The logs record 201 messages that have been successfully delivered to ktsuru@bgmt.com.mx over the past month or so. On two occasions, the messages were delayed a couple of hours; neither of these occasions was in the time frame of this election. Best Regards Kent Crispin -- kent@icann.org p: +1 310 823 9358 f: +1 310 823 8649
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In all fairness, Glen sent out reminders for all council members to vote. In both rounds, those reminders prompted me to look for my ballot.
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of ext Marilyn Cade Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 2:51 PM To: 'kent crispin'; owner-council@gnso.icann.org; GNSO Council Subject: Re: [council] SECOND ROUND BALLOT
This response is not directed at technical staff. However, this situation with voting is a little strange. Three people did not receive ballots, although technical staff validate the sending of ballots and receipt but not in the mailbox of the intended recipient.
I ask that the election "team" work out a way to allow all councilors to vote. We have documented complaints about the flow and receipt of ballots.
This needs to be addressed by the General counsel, and adm staff responsible for managing the election, and a process addressed for councilors who did not receive the ballots but stated their intention to vote.
Let's not have a contested election over technical failures.
I voted in the first round and have a "sent" message in my email outbox. Yet when I asked for verification of receipt, my vote was not received.
The second round seems to have worked for me.
Marilyn Regards, Marilyn Cade
-----Original Message----- From: "'kent crispin'" <kent@icann.org> Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 11:57:00 To:council@gnso.icann.org Subject: Re: [council] SECOND ROUND BALLOT
On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 10:58:18AM -0500, Kiyoshi I. Tsuru wrote:
I haven't received my ballot either.
Hi Kiyoshi
Your ballot was definitely sent to you, and, according to my logs, successfully received by your mail server. Unfortunately, the election is now closed, and there is nothing further that can be done about it. Had I known about your problem earlier it would have been very easy to send you another copy, but unfortunately, I didn't hear anything about a missing ballot until now.
Your ballot was sent out at approximately 10 am PDT on June 15; here are the log entries of the ballot being sent, and received by your mail server:
Jun 15 10:01:27 greenriver sendmail[28416]: k5FH1Rlt028416: from=<tally@icann.org>, size=3438, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<200606151701.k5FH1RbC028415@greenriver.icann.org>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=greenriver [127.0.0.1]
Jun 15 10:01:28 greenriver sendmail[28418]: k5FH1Rlt028416: to=<ktsuru@bgmt.com.mx>, delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=33438, relay=mail.bgmt.com.mx. [72.32.2.231], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (ok 1150390885 qp 5155)
Once at your mail server, of course, I can't track it further.
The logs record 201 messages that have been successfully delivered to ktsuru@bgmt.com.mx over the past month or so. On two occasions, the messages were delayed a couple of hours; neither of these occasions was in the time frame of this election.
Best Regards Kent Crispin
-- kent@icann.org p: +1 310 823 9358 f: +1 310 823 8649
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I have to agree with Lucy, there were enough warnings and possibilties to cast ones votes. I for example used a telephone setup during my vacation. If there weren't any technical problems I don't see why we should go through this process again. Best, tom Am 21.06.2006 schrieb Lucy.Nichols@nokia.com:
In all fairness, Glen sent out reminders for all council members to vote. In both rounds, those reminders prompted me to look for my ballot.
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of ext Marilyn Cade Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 2:51 PM To: 'kent crispin'; owner-council@gnso.icann.org; GNSO Council Subject: Re: [council] SECOND ROUND BALLOT
This response is not directed at technical staff. However, this situation with voting is a little strange. Three people did not receive ballots, although technical staff validate the sending of ballots and receipt but not in the mailbox of the intended recipient.
I ask that the election "team" work out a way to allow all councilors to vote. We have documented complaints about the flow and receipt of ballots.
This needs to be addressed by the General counsel, and adm staff responsible for managing the election, and a process addressed for councilors who did not receive the ballots but stated their intention to vote.
Let's not have a contested election over technical failures.
I voted in the first round and have a "sent" message in my email outbox. Yet when I asked for verification of receipt, my vote was not received.
The second round seems to have worked for me.
Marilyn Regards, Marilyn Cade
-----Original Message----- From: "'kent crispin'" <kent@icann.org> Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 11:57:00 To:council@gnso.icann.org Subject: Re: [council] SECOND ROUND BALLOT
On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 10:58:18AM -0500, Kiyoshi I. Tsuru wrote:
I haven't received my ballot either.
Hi Kiyoshi
Your ballot was definitely sent to you, and, according to my logs, successfully received by your mail server. Unfortunately, the election is now closed, and there is nothing further that can be done about it. Had I known about your problem earlier it would have been very easy to send you another copy, but unfortunately, I didn't hear anything about a missing ballot until now.
Your ballot was sent out at approximately 10 am PDT on June 15; here are the log entries of the ballot being sent, and received by your mail server:
Jun 15 10:01:27 greenriver sendmail[28416]: k5FH1Rlt028416: from=<tally@icann.org>, size=3438, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<200606151701.k5FH1RbC028415@greenriver.icann.org>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=greenriver [127.0.0.1]
Jun 15 10:01:28 greenriver sendmail[28418]: k5FH1Rlt028416: to=<ktsuru@bgmt.com.mx>, delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=33438, relay=mail.bgmt.com.mx. [72.32.2.231], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (ok 1150390885 qp 5155)
Once at your mail server, of course, I can't track it further.
The logs record 201 messages that have been successfully delivered to ktsuru@bgmt.com.mx over the past month or so. On two occasions, the messages were delayed a couple of hours; neither of these occasions was in the time frame of this election.
Best Regards Kent Crispin
-- kent@icann.org p: +1 310 823 9358 f: +1 310 823 8649
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participants (4)
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'kent crispin'
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Lucy.Nichols@nokia.com
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Marilyn Cade
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Thomas Keller