Re: [council] Revised Community Travel Support Procedure for FY09
Avri et al, The solution to a problem depends heavily on the framing of that problem. Is it really 10 travel slots we have to allocate or a budget? If the latter, then perhaps the money can be divided up among the constituencies and then each constituency can use the travel funds as it sees fit. Greg ----- Original Message ---- From: Avri Doria <avri@psg.com> To: Council GNSO <council@gnso.icann.org> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:36:08 AM Subject: Re: [council] Revised Community Travel Support Procedure for FY09 Hi, Now that this has been released, we need to determine rather soon, how the available travel slots (10) for Cairo will be allocated. Once the bi-cameral approach is approved, if it is, this might be easy, for now we have 6 constituencies and 10 slots and that means they do not divide equally. Some questions that need to be answered (there may be more): - do all constituencies wish to take part in the allocation? - should allocation be based on need? - - if so how is need determined? -- is self declaration of need sufficient? -- and what if more then 10 indicate need? - do individual council members request support or should the request come from the constituency? We may also want to provide feedback on the policy, but that is less critical at this point then of making sure we have the names in time for 60 days prior to the meeting. My assumption is that we need to provide our list of names by the end of August. a. On 14 Aug 2008, at 05:54, Glen de Saint Géry wrote:
[To: council[at]gnso.icann.org; liaison6c[at]gnso.icann.org] [To: ga[at]gnso.icann.org; announce[at]gnso.icann.org] [To: regional-liaisons[at]icann.org]
http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-13aug08-en.htm
Please note that ICANN Posts Revised Community Travel Support Procedure for FY09
13 August 2008
The work to create a community travel support procedure began with a specific call for travel support in late 2007 by some in the community (though this issue has been discussed for some time). There has been extensive consultation on community travel support. It began as a workshop in Delhi, with comments received and an analysis posted. Further, a draft was posted in June, discussed in budget meetings in Paris, and again with fairly extensive comment in person, via email and on the web. These second round of comments were summarized and analyzed. This last summary is available at:
http://forum.icann.org/lists/travel-support-draft/msg00013.html
The revised Community Travel Support Procedure for FY09 document http://www.icann.org/en/topics/travel-support/revised-procedure-11aug08-en.h... strives to accommodate the community feedback. Of course, this is a subject about which complete agreement is not possible. However, there is strong agreement within the community that a procedure exist that is documented, transparent, consistent, adhered-to, and reviewed/revised for efficacy.
Comparing the final procedure with the draft discussed in Paris, some key changes include:
- Guarantees travel support for NomCom-nominated counselors - Stresses transparency in application and post-meeting reporting - Allows for some flexibility in the allocation mechanism within a SO without overburdening the Chair
The document strives to be complete without being overly-detailed. This will leave many specific questions unanswered. ICANN staff will develop and post a FAQ (frequently asked questions document) to capture questions, and provide consistent answers to the entire community. If you have questions, please send them to the ICANN staff member with whom you work most closely, or send them to travel-support@icann.org .
Staff will collect feedback on issues that arise in the first implementation of this procedure, now through the Cairo meeting, and Staff will make clarifications, as needed. Additionally, Staff will conduct a complete review of the Community Travel Support Procedure at year end with a public consultation at the June ICANN meeting, and this will be an opportunity for RSSAC to provide additional input if desired.
Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org
this would be indeed worthwhile to clarify. Best, tom _____ Von: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] Im Auftrag von Greg Ruth Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. August 2008 15:05 An: Avri Doria; Council GNSO Betreff: Re: [council] Revised Community Travel Support Procedure for FY09 Avri et al, The solution to a problem depends heavily on the framing of that problem. Is it really 10 travel slots we have to allocate or a budget? If the latter, then perhaps the money can be divided up among the constituencies and then each constituency can use the travel funds as it sees fit. Greg ----- Original Message ---- From: Avri Doria <avri@psg.com> To: Council GNSO <council@gnso.icann.org> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:36:08 AM Subject: Re: [council] Revised Community Travel Support Procedure for FY09 Hi, Now that this has been released, we need to determine rather soon, how the available travel slots (10) for Cairo will be allocated. Once the bi-cameral approach is approved, if it is, this might be easy, for now we have 6 constituencies and 10 slots and that means they do not divide equally. Some questions that need to be answered (there may be more): - do all constituencies wish to take part in the allocation? - should allocation be based on need? - - if so how is need determined? -- is self declaration of need sufficient? -- and what if more then 10 indicate need? - do individual council members request support or should the request come from the constituency? We may also want to provide feedback on the policy, but that is less critical at this point then of making sure we have the names in time for 60 days prior to the meeting. My assumption is that we need to provide our list of names by the end of August. a. On 14 Aug 2008, at 05:54, Glen de Saint Géry wrote:
[To: council[at]gnso.icann.org <http://gnso.icann.org/> ;
liaison6c[at]gnso.icann.org]
[To: ga[at]gnso.icann.org; announce[at]gnso.icann.org] [To: regional-liaisons[at]icann.org <http://icann.org/> ]
http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-13aug08-en.htm
Please note that ICANN Posts Revised Community Travel Support Procedure for FY09
13 August 2008
The work to create a community travel support procedure began with a specific call for travel support in late 2007 by some in the community (though this issue has been discussed for some time). There has been extensive consultation on community travel support. It began as a workshop in Delhi, with comments received and an analysis posted. Further, a draft was posted in June, discussed in budget meetings in Paris, and again with fairly extensive comment in person, via email and on the web. These second round of comments were summarized and analyzed. This last summary is available at:
http://forum.icann.org/lists/travel-support-draft/msg00013.html
The revised Community Travel Support Procedure for FY09 document
http://www.icann.org/en/topics/travel-support/revised-procedure-11aug08-en.h tm
strives to accommodate the community feedback. Of course, this is a subject about which complete agreement is not possible. However, there is strong agreement within the community that a procedure exist that is documented, transparent, consistent, adhered-to, and reviewed/revised for efficacy.
Comparing the final procedure with the draft discussed in Paris, some key changes include:
- Guarantees travel support for NomCom-nominated counselors - Stresses transparency in application and post-meeting reporting - Allows for some flexibility in the allocation mechanism within a SO without overburdening the Chair
The document strives to be complete without being overly-detailed. This will leave many specific questions unanswered. ICANN staff will develop and post a FAQ (frequently asked questions document) to capture questions, and provide consistent answers to the entire community. If you have questions, please send them to the ICANN staff member with whom you work most closely, or send them to travel-support@icann.org .
Staff will collect feedback on issues that arise in the first implementation of this procedure, now through the Cairo meeting, and Staff will make clarifications, as needed. Additionally, Staff will conduct a complete review of the Community Travel Support Procedure at year end with a public consultation at the June ICANN meeting, and this will be an opportunity for RSSAC to provide additional input if desired.
Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org <http://gnso.icann.org/>
I can see a strong case for the total travel budget being made available to all those council members that do not belong to the contracted parties. Take it we all agree to this ? Philip
I assume this was sent in jest. :) Chuck ________________________________ From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sheppard Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 9:22 AM To: 'Council GNSO' Subject: [council] Revised Community Travel Support Procedure I can see a strong case for the total travel budget being made available to all those council members that do not belong to the contracted parties. Take it we all agree to this ? Philip
Hi, I can certainly check on this. Since all of the tickets arrangements are to be made by ICANN and other reimbursement are paid by them according a a per diem, I expect they are dong it on a body count and not on re-allocation of budget. But I will ask. a. On 14 Aug 2008, at 09:05, Greg Ruth wrote:
Avri et al,
The solution to a problem depends heavily on the framing of that problem. Is it really 10 travel slots we have to allocate or a budget? If the latter, then perhaps the money can be divided up among the constituencies and then each constituency can use the travel funds as it sees fit.
Greg
----- Original Message ---- From: Avri Doria <avri@psg.com> To: Council GNSO <council@gnso.icann.org> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:36:08 AM Subject: Re: [council] Revised Community Travel Support Procedure for FY09
Hi,
Now that this has been released, we need to determine rather soon, how the available travel slots (10) for Cairo will be allocated. Once the bi-cameral approach is approved, if it is, this might be easy, for now we have 6 constituencies and 10 slots and that means they do not divide equally.
Some questions that need to be answered (there may be more):
- do all constituencies wish to take part in the allocation?
- should allocation be based on need? - - if so how is need determined? -- is self declaration of need sufficient? -- and what if more then 10 indicate need?
- do individual council members request support or should the request come from the constituency?
We may also want to provide feedback on the policy, but that is less critical at this point then of making sure we have the names in time for 60 days prior to the meeting. My assumption is that we need to provide our list of names by the end of August.
a.
On 14 Aug 2008, at 05:54, Glen de Saint Géry wrote:
[To: council[at]gnso.icann.org; liaison6c[at]gnso.icann.org] [To: ga[at]gnso.icann.org; announce[at]gnso.icann.org] [To: regional-liaisons[at]icann.org]
http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-13aug08-en.htm
Please note that ICANN Posts Revised Community Travel Support Procedure for FY09
13 August 2008
The work to create a community travel support procedure began with a specific call for travel support in late 2007 by some in the community (though this issue has been discussed for some time). There has been extensive consultation on community travel support. It began as a workshop in Delhi, with comments received and an analysis posted. Further, a draft was posted in June, discussed in budget meetings in Paris, and again with fairly extensive comment in person, via email and on the web. These second round of comments were summarized and analyzed. This last summary is available at:
http://forum.icann.org/lists/travel-support-draft/msg00013.html
The revised Community Travel Support Procedure for FY09 document http://www.icann.org/en/topics/travel-support/revised-procedure-11aug08-en.h... strives to accommodate the community feedback. Of course, this is a subject about which complete agreement is not possible. However, there is strong agreement within the community that a procedure exist that is documented, transparent, consistent, adhered-to, and reviewed/revised for efficacy.
Comparing the final procedure with the draft discussed in Paris, some key changes include:
- Guarantees travel support for NomCom-nominated counselors - Stresses transparency in application and post-meeting reporting - Allows for some flexibility in the allocation mechanism within a SO without overburdening the Chair
The document strives to be complete without being overly-detailed. This will leave many specific questions unanswered. ICANN staff will develop and post a FAQ (frequently asked questions document) to capture questions, and provide consistent answers to the entire community. If you have questions, please send them to the ICANN staff member with whom you work most closely, or send them to travel-support@icann.org .
Staff will collect feedback on issues that arise in the first implementation of this procedure, now through the Cairo meeting, and Staff will make clarifications, as needed. Additionally, Staff will conduct a complete review of the Community Travel Support Procedure at year end with a public consultation at the June ICANN meeting, and this will be an opportunity for RSSAC to provide additional input if desired.
Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org
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Avri Doria -
Gomes, Chuck -
Greg Ruth -
Philip Sheppard -
Thomas Keller