Hi, A charter for consideration at our next meeting for the IRTP Part-A PDP WG can be found in he workspace or at https://st.icann.org/gnso-council/index.cgi?irtp_pdp_a_wg_charter Discussion on the list welcome. thanks a.
Thanks Avri. Overall this looks really good to me. I have two comments regarding the Milestones that I through out for consideration when we discuss the charter and approve it. 1. It seems to me that there should be a milestone for T (WG formed, chair & Council liaison & staff coordinator identified), e.g., NLT 15 days after charter approval. 2. Isn't 7 days awfully short between receipt of constituency statements and the initial report? Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Avri Doria Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:36 AM To: Council GNSO Subject: [council] Draft charter for IRTf Paart A PDP WG charter
Hi,
A charter for consideration at our next meeting for the IRTP Part-A PDP WG can be found in he workspace or at https://st.icann.org/gnso-council/index.cgi?irtp_pdp_a_wg_charter
Discussion on the list welcome.
thanks
a.
On 10 Jul 2008, at 14:57, Gomes, Chuck wrote:
Thanks Avri. Overall this looks really good to me. I have two comments regarding the Milestones that I through out for consideration when we discuss the charter and approve it.
1. It seems to me that there should be a milestone for T (WG formed, chair & Council liaison & staff coordinator identified), e.g., NLT 15 days after charter approval.
i thought about that and since T was that point the WG started, the time necessary to reach that time was actually before the charter and something for which the WG is not responsible. Maybe it is something that should be added to the motion (found n the workspace or at https://st.icann.org/gnso-council/index.cgi?17_july_2008_motions)
2. Isn't 7 days awfully short between receipt of constituency statements and the initial report?
I do not know. Perhaps the person responsible the TBD Staff person can speak up on that one. thanks a.
Works for me. Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Avri Doria Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:31 AM To: Council GNSO Subject: Re: [council] Draft charter for IRTf Paart A PDP WG charter
On 10 Jul 2008, at 14:57, Gomes, Chuck wrote:
Thanks Avri. Overall this looks really good to me. I have two comments regarding the Milestones that I through out for consideration when we discuss the charter and approve it.
1. It seems to me that there should be a milestone for T (WG formed, chair & Council liaison & staff coordinator identified), e.g., NLT 15 days after charter approval.
i thought about that and since T was that point the WG started, the time necessary to reach that time was actually before the charter and something for which the WG is not responsible. Maybe it is something that should be added to the motion (found n the workspace or at https://st.icann.org/gnso-council/index.cgi?17_july_2008_motions)
2. Isn't 7 days awfully short between receipt of constituency statements and the initial report?
I do not know. Perhaps the person responsible the TBD Staff person can speak up on that one.
thanks
a.
Avri, Chuck, all, Starting with Chuck's item 2 - I fully agree that it's a real squeeze. Let's recall that the PDP rules set out 15 days for this (constituency statements due at T+35 and Initial Report due at T+50) and even that isn't easy, although doable (based on experience;-). Then, recalling what we did for the IDN WG, we used the term Outcomes Report (in drafts 1 to n until we got consensus, then calling it "final", or rather skipping the prefix "draft" - this in order to save the expression Final Report to something endorsed by the Council. Just my two Euro-cents on this for now. Best regards Olof -----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Avri Doria Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:31 PM To: Council GNSO Subject: Re: [council] Draft charter for IRTf Paart A PDP WG charter On 10 Jul 2008, at 14:57, Gomes, Chuck wrote:
Thanks Avri. Overall this looks really good to me. I have two comments regarding the Milestones that I through out for consideration when we discuss the charter and approve it.
1. It seems to me that there should be a milestone for T (WG formed, chair & Council liaison & staff coordinator identified), e.g., NLT 15 days after charter approval.
i thought about that and since T was that point the WG started, the time necessary to reach that time was actually before the charter and something for which the WG is not responsible. Maybe it is something that should be added to the motion (found n the workspace or at https://st.icann.org/gnso-council/index.cgi?17_july_2008_motions)
2. Isn't 7 days awfully short between receipt of constituency statements and the initial report?
I do not know. Perhaps the person responsible the TBD Staff person can speak up on that one. thanks a.
On 10 Jul 2008, at 17:42, Olof Nordling wrote:
Avri, Chuck, all, Starting with Chuck's item 2 - I fully agree that it's a real squeeze. Let's recall that the PDP rules set out 15 days for this (constituency statements due at T+35 and Initial Report due at T+50) and even that isn't easy, although doable (based on experience;-).
makes sense, especially since that is still the by-laws timing.
Then, recalling what we did for the IDN WG, we used the term Outcomes Report (in drafts 1 to n until we got consensus, then calling it "final", or rather skipping the prefix "draft" - this in order to save the expression Final Report to something endorsed by the Council.
I have long thought of Final report as name required by the by-laws for the document that is produced after the constituency reports and before the deliberations, and not an indicator of ordinality. In any case I have modified the milestones to try and take care of these issues.
Just my two Euro-cents on this for now.
I await further euros.
Best regards
thanks, a.
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Olof Nordling