ICANN Files Legal Action in Germany to Preserve WHOIS Data
https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2018-05-25-en There is a definite information asymmetry between the GNSO Council and ICANN org at the moment. This was not a spontaneous decision; it has clearly been in the works for weeks. I don't see how we can even contemplate launching an ePDP when we are not aware of all the actions that ICANN is up to behind the scenes vis-à-vis WHOIS. —Ayden
An update; the Court has rejected ICANN's request for an injunction. https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-4-2018-05-30-en -Ayden ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On 26 May 2018 2:26 AM, Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.com> wrote:
https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2018-05-25-en
There is a definite information asymmetry between the GNSO Council and ICANN org at the moment. This was not a spontaneous decision; it has clearly been in the works for weeks. I don't see how we can even contemplate launching an ePDP when we are not aware of all the actions that ICANN is up to behind the scenes vis-à-vis WHOIS.
—Ayden
Thanks Ayden – so no further forward. (An unfortunate reference to the artist formally known at WP29 though). Anyone have any insights on next steps? M From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> On Behalf Of Ayden Férdeline Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 10:19 AM To: GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] ICANN Files Legal Action in Germany to Preserve WHOIS Data An update; the Court has rejected ICANN's request for an injunction. https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-4-2018-05-30-en -Ayden ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On 26 May 2018 2:26 AM, Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.com<mailto:icann@ferdeline.com>> wrote: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2018-05-25-en There is a definite information asymmetry between the GNSO Council and ICANN org at the moment. This was not a spontaneous decision; it has clearly been in the works for weeks. I don't see how we can even contemplate launching an ePDP when we are not aware of all the actions that ICANN is up to behind the scenes vis-à-vis WHOIS. —Ayden
On 31 May 2018, at 07:10, Marie Pattullo <marie.pattullo@aim.be> wrote:
Thanks Ayden – so no further forward. (An unfortunate reference to the artist formally known at WP29 though). Anyone have any insights on next steps?
- Replace "MUST collect admin-c/tech-c" with "MAY collect" in the temp spec. - Add an admin-c/tech-c consent mechanism that could read like this "If registrar offer to collect admin-c/tech-c information, consent MUST be sought from the data subjects to processing of PII" (example: registrant says that rubensk@nic.br <mailto:rubensk@nic.br> is the admin contact of example.com <http://example.com/>; registrar sends e-mails to rubensk@nic.br <mailto:rubensk@nic.br> to confirm consent) Rubens
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From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> On Behalf Of Ayden Férdeline Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 10:19 AM To: GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] ICANN Files Legal Action in Germany to Preserve WHOIS Data
An update; the Court has rejected ICANN's request for an injunction.
https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-4-2018-05-30-en <https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-4-2018-05-30-en>
-Ayden
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On 26 May 2018 2:26 AM, Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.com <mailto:icann@ferdeline.com>> wrote:
https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2018-05-25-en <https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2018-05-25-en>
There is a definite information asymmetry between the GNSO Council and ICANN org at the moment. This was not a spontaneous decision; it has clearly been in the works for weeks. I don't see how we can even contemplate launching an ePDP when we are not aware of all the actions that ICANN is up to behind the scenes vis-à-vis WHOIS.
—Ayden
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I’d agree with the first part The second part should be left up to the registrar as to how they want to implement it including any warnings. -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ http://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br> Date: Thursday 31 May 2018 at 11:29 To: Marie Pattullo <marie.pattullo@aim.be> Cc: GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] ICANN Files Legal Action in Germany to Preserve WHOIS Data On 31 May 2018, at 07:10, Marie Pattullo <marie.pattullo@aim.be<mailto:marie.pattullo@aim.be>> wrote: Thanks Ayden – so no further forward. (An unfortunate reference to the artist formally known at WP29 though). Anyone have any insights on next steps? - Replace "MUST collect admin-c/tech-c" with "MAY collect" in the temp spec. - Add an admin-c/tech-c consent mechanism that could read like this "If registrar offer to collect admin-c/tech-c information, consent MUST be sought from the data subjects to processing of PII" (example: registrant says that rubensk@nic.br<mailto:rubensk@nic.br> is the admin contact of example.com<http://example.com>; registrar sends e-mails to rubensk@nic.br<mailto:rubensk@nic.br> to confirm consent) Rubens M From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>> On Behalf Of Ayden Férdeline Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 10:19 AM To: GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Subject: Re: [council] ICANN Files Legal Action in Germany to Preserve WHOIS Data An update; the Court has rejected ICANN's request for an injunction. https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-4-2018-05-30-en -Ayden ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On 26 May 2018 2:26 AM, Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.com<mailto:icann@ferdeline.com>> wrote: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2018-05-25-en There is a definite information asymmetry between the GNSO Council and ICANN org at the moment. This was not a spontaneous decision; it has clearly been in the works for weeks. I don't see how we can even contemplate launching an ePDP when we are not aware of all the actions that ICANN is up to behind the scenes vis-à-vis WHOIS. —Ayden _______________________________________________ council mailing list council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/council
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