DOH has massive ramifications for registrars and registries, as well as anyone involved in infrastructure. It’s one of the few times I’ve seen a HIT being proposed that genuinely meets the criteria, as opposed to yet another panel on $topic where it’ll just be yet another rehashing of previous arguments and positions -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ http://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 From: "philippe.fouquart@orange.com" <philippe.fouquart@orange.com> Date: Thursday 23 May 2019 at 15:07 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org>, Michele Neylon <michele@blacknight.com>, "council@gnso.icann.org" <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: RE: [council] FW: help needed: planning ICANN65 High Interest Session on DNS over https (DoH) Thanks for this, Mary. I indeed hope the ISPCP can be involved somehow, maybe other GNSO constituencies would be interested too. Anyway I’ll go back to our constituency for this, but I would expect we can do better than 64 where some people duly noted the potential impact for the ISPs during the DoH session when none were in the room – unsurprising given this had precisely been scheduled during the closed ISPCP session :s All the best, Philippe From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 4:21 PM To: Michele Neylon - Blacknight; FOUQUART Philippe TGI/OLN; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: Re: [council] FW: help needed: planning ICANN65 High Interest Session on DNS over https (DoH) Hello Councilors, and with thanks to Philippe for highlighting the work that’s begun on some of the cross-community/high-interest topic sessions at ICANN65 – this note is to let you know that ICANN staff who will be working with the respective community groups on each of the sessions will be following up with each group’s leaders later today. For the GNSO, the specific session for which we will be asking for your leadership is the consolidated session on EPDP Phase One implementation, impact on related policies etc. We expect that the the ccNSO, SSAC and ISPCPC will be involved in the other sessions. Thanks and cheers Mary From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com> Date: Thursday, May 23, 2019 at 10:12 To: "philippe.fouquart@orange.com" <philippe.fouquart@orange.com>, "council@gnso.icann.org" <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] FW: help needed: planning ICANN65 High Interest Session on DNS over https (DoH) This is the first I’ve seen of this Somebody did mention it to me at the RIPE meeting here in Iceland, but that’s about it -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ [blacknight.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.blacknight.com_&d=D...> http://blacknight.blog/ [blacknight.blog]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__blacknight.blog_&d=DwMGa...> Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ [michele.blog]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__michele.blog_&d=DwMGaQ&...> Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ [ceo.hosting]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ceo.hosting_&d=DwMGaQ&c...> ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of "philippe.fouquart@orange.com" <philippe.fouquart@orange.com> Date: Thursday 23 May 2019 at 09:54 To: "council@gnso.icann.org" <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: [council] FW: help needed: planning ICANN65 High Interest Session on DNS over https (DoH) Dear GNSO leadership or staff, Was there a similar call for participation to GNSO council or was it meant to go through the constituencies? I for one would be interested. Thanks, Regards, Philippe From: Ccnso-council [mailto:ccnso-council-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Joke Braeken Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 1:00 PM To: ccnso-members@icann.org; ccTLDcommunity@cctld-managers.org; ccnso-council Subject: [ccnso-council] help needed: planning ICANN65 High Interest Session on DNS over https (DoH) Hello all, We need your help! * Why? To make the ICANN65 High Interest Session on DNS over https (DoH) in Marrakech a success. * What is needed? We seek volunteers from the broader ccTLD community who could help planning this session. First five volunteers will work jointly with colleagues from SSAC. Volunteers from SSAC have already started putting a straw man together. If you are interested in helping us shape the DoH session in Marrakech, kindly reply to this e-mail by the end of this week. Important: knowledge about DoH is a requirement. Background * Topic: DNS over https (DoH) * Session goal: present the technology, implications, benefits, and problems in various use cases/environments * The DoH HIT session at ICANN65 is tentatively scheduled for Tuesday, 25 June 2019 (15:15-16:45) in Marrakech. Thank you! Best regards. 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Thanks Keith, for lightening the burden :) it’s probably still time for this DoH HIT since Joke talked about the end of the week. Mary, with this, should we do like the ccNSO and rely on staff to relay GNSO people’s interests? (I don’t want to take that off-list for the time being – I agree with Michele, it has wide ranging implications) Thank you. Regards, Philippe From: Drazek, Keith [mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 5:23 PM To: michele@blacknight.com; FOUQUART Philippe TGI/OLN; mary.wong@icann.org; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: RE: [council] FW: help needed: planning ICANN65 High Interest Session on DNS over https (DoH) Hi all, During the HIT/CC discussions and negotiations with other SO/AC leaders, I pushed back on DOH being worthy of a HIT, so there may be a mis-perception that GNSO members are not interested in the subject. I did this in part to try to prioritize the sessions and (successfully) reduce the number from 7 to 4, but if GNSO members are interested, I’d like to think we can and should be included in the session development. Regards, Keith From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> On Behalf Of Michele Neylon - Blacknight Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 11:14 AM To: philippe.fouquart@orange.com; Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org>; council@gnso.icann.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [council] FW: help needed: planning ICANN65 High Interest Session on DNS over https (DoH) DOH has massive ramifications for registrars and registries, as well as anyone involved in infrastructure. It’s one of the few times I’ve seen a HIT being proposed that genuinely meets the criteria, as opposed to yet another panel on $topic where it’ll just be yet another rehashing of previous arguments and positions -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ http://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 From: "philippe.fouquart@orange.com<mailto:philippe.fouquart@orange.com>" <philippe.fouquart@orange.com<mailto:philippe.fouquart@orange.com>> Date: Thursday 23 May 2019 at 15:07 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, Michele Neylon <michele@blacknight.com<mailto:michele@blacknight.com>>, "council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>" <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Subject: RE: [council] FW: help needed: planning ICANN65 High Interest Session on DNS over https (DoH) Thanks for this, Mary. I indeed hope the ISPCP can be involved somehow, maybe other GNSO constituencies would be interested too. Anyway I’ll go back to our constituency for this, but I would expect we can do better than 64 where some people duly noted the potential impact for the ISPs during the DoH session when none were in the room – unsurprising given this had precisely been scheduled during the closed ISPCP session :s All the best, Philippe From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 4:21 PM To: Michele Neylon - Blacknight; FOUQUART Philippe TGI/OLN; council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] FW: help needed: planning ICANN65 High Interest Session on DNS over https (DoH) Hello Councilors, and with thanks to Philippe for highlighting the work that’s begun on some of the cross-community/high-interest topic sessions at ICANN65 – this note is to let you know that ICANN staff who will be working with the respective community groups on each of the sessions will be following up with each group’s leaders later today. For the GNSO, the specific session for which we will be asking for your leadership is the consolidated session on EPDP Phase One implementation, impact on related policies etc. We expect that the the ccNSO, SSAC and ISPCPC will be involved in the other sessions. Thanks and cheers Mary From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>> on behalf of Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com<mailto:michele@blacknight.com>> Date: Thursday, May 23, 2019 at 10:12 To: "philippe.fouquart@orange.com<mailto:philippe.fouquart@orange.com>" <philippe.fouquart@orange.com<mailto:philippe.fouquart@orange.com>>, "council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>" <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Subject: Re: [council] FW: help needed: planning ICANN65 High Interest Session on DNS over https (DoH) This is the first I’ve seen of this Somebody did mention it to me at the RIPE meeting here in Iceland, but that’s about it -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ [blacknight.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.blacknight.com_&d=D...> http://blacknight.blog/ [blacknight.blog]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__blacknight.blog_&d=DwMGa...> Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ [michele.blog]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__michele.blog_&d=DwMGaQ&...> Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ [ceo.hosting]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ceo.hosting_&d=DwMGaQ&c...> ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 From: council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org>> on behalf of "philippe.fouquart@orange.com<mailto:philippe.fouquart@orange.com>" <philippe.fouquart@orange.com<mailto:philippe.fouquart@orange.com>> Date: Thursday 23 May 2019 at 09:54 To: "council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>" <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Subject: [council] FW: help needed: planning ICANN65 High Interest Session on DNS over https (DoH) Dear GNSO leadership or staff, Was there a similar call for participation to GNSO council or was it meant to go through the constituencies? I for one would be interested. Thanks, Regards, Philippe From: Ccnso-council [mailto:ccnso-council-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Joke Braeken Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 1:00 PM To: ccnso-members@icann.org<mailto:ccnso-members@icann.org>; ccTLDcommunity@cctld-managers.org<mailto:ccTLDcommunity@cctld-managers.org>; ccnso-council Subject: [ccnso-council] help needed: planning ICANN65 High Interest Session on DNS over https (DoH) Hello all, We need your help! * Why? To make the ICANN65 High Interest Session on DNS over https (DoH) in Marrakech a success. * What is needed? We seek volunteers from the broader ccTLD community who could help planning this session. First five volunteers will work jointly with colleagues from SSAC. Volunteers from SSAC have already started putting a straw man together. If you are interested in helping us shape the DoH session in Marrakech, kindly reply to this e-mail by the end of this week. Important: knowledge about DoH is a requirement. Background * Topic: DNS over https (DoH) * Session goal: present the technology, implications, benefits, and problems in various use cases/environments * The DoH HIT session at ICANN65 is tentatively scheduled for Tuesday, 25 June 2019 (15:15-16:45) in Marrakech. Thank you! Best regards. Joke Braeken ccNSO Policy Advisor joke.braeken@icann.org<mailto:joke.braeken@icann.org> Follow @ccNSO on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ccNSO [twitter.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_ccNSO&d=DwM...> Follow the ccNSO on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ccnso/ [facebook.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_ccnso_...> http://ccnso.icann.org [ccnso.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ccnso.icann.org&d=DwMGaQ...> _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. 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