Re: [council] RE: Draft Letter to the Board on Red Cross Names & Identifiers
Hello everyone – to add to Phil’s note, the GAC seems to have suggested that the topic of “IGO Protections” be placed in the same slot as its suggested “Bilateral Meeting with the GNSO” on Day 3 of the Helsinki meeting (Wednesday, 10.45-12 noon Helsinki time: https://community.icann.org/x/_o5CAw). While it is not clear whether that will also encompass protections for the Red Cross (who are not an IGO in any case), this may be relevant to the Council’s discussion on 12 May regarding next steps for the Red Cross, possibly separately from any next steps for IGO protections. Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: mary.wong@icann.org Telephone: +1-603-5744889 From: <owner-council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org>> on behalf of Phil Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com<mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com>> Date: Sunday, May 8, 2016 at 03:04 To: "James M. Bladel" <jbladel@godaddy.com<mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com>>, GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Subject: [council] RE: Draft Letter to the Board on Red Cross Names & Identifiers Good letter, James. This point is particularly important: One point emphasized during this briefing was that the international legal basis for protections of Red Cross identifiers is significantly different from that for IGOs. This raises the possibility that permanent protection for these Red Cross identifiers could potentially be resolved independently from other IGO acronyms. The IGO CRP WG has recently received a final draft of the memo from our outside legal expert in regard to the scope of sovereign immunity for IGOs. Without getting into extensive detail, it varies widely based upon both the type of IGO, the jurisdiction in which the question is raised, and whether the activity in question implicates a core function of the IGO. Therefore, the issue of the Red Cross identifiers should be viewed as significantly different from that of other IGOs. Best regards, Philip Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal Virtualaw LLC 1155 F Street, NW Suite 1050 Washington, DC 20004 202-559-8597/Direct 202-559-8750/Fax 202-255-6172/Cell Twitter: @VlawDC "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org> [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of James M. Bladel Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2016 10:38 AM To: GNSO Council List Subject: [council] Draft Letter to the Board on Red Cross Names & Identifiers Council Colleagues - Attached, please find a draft letter that was developed by Heather, Donna and myself, along with Staff, that sets out to “reboot” work on this topic. I note that this is a topic for the next GNSO Council meeting (Agenda Item #7), and therefore misses the document cutoff date. However, I expect this discussion & work to continue beyond our 12 MAY meeting, both on the list and during calls. Than you, J. ________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com<http://www.avg.com> Version: 2016.0.7497 / Virus Database: 4565/12169 - Release Date: 05/05/16
Hi Mary, all I just saw your note about scheduling for Helsinki. Just to add to the conversation, the GNSO had identified “IGO & INGO names & acronyms (status of unresolved issues)” as a topic for cross community discussion in Helsinki. The topic was not identified for one of the slots available, but I did note in an email to the planning committee earlier today that “… it is a topic that the GNSO Council has an interest in discussing with the Board”. Perhaps our discussion of Item 7 during the Council meeting later this week will provide some direction for how and who we want to engage with on this topic in Helsinki. Thanks Donna From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2016 7:48 PM To: Phil Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com>; James M. Bladel <jbladel@godaddy.com>; GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] RE: Draft Letter to the Board on Red Cross Names & Identifiers Hello everyone – to add to Phil’s note, the GAC seems to have suggested that the topic of “IGO Protections” be placed in the same slot as its suggested “Bilateral Meeting with the GNSO” on Day 3 of the Helsinki meeting (Wednesday, 10.45-12 noon Helsinki time: https://community.icann.org/x/_o5CAw<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_-5Fo5CAw&d=DQMGaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=4A3LwUUER9_CePZ11QJsr56eryGQiPHEqv4TL7JH87w&m=EHuSp12Ih_zvamZ9u0i84twfLZfVYd4l5IzFaBvJauA&s=9-SiIGyBeL1OzTAEyNGTgSBkXrp9wm6MuUzBYeo_ioo&e=>). While it is not clear whether that will also encompass protections for the Red Cross (who are not an IGO in any case), this may be relevant to the Council’s discussion on 12 May regarding next steps for the Red Cross, possibly separately from any next steps for IGO protections. Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: mary.wong@icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> Telephone: +1-603-5744889 From: <owner-council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org>> on behalf of Phil Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com<mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com>> Date: Sunday, May 8, 2016 at 03:04 To: "James M. Bladel" <jbladel@godaddy.com<mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com>>, GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>> Subject: [council] RE: Draft Letter to the Board on Red Cross Names & Identifiers Good letter, James. This point is particularly important: One point emphasized during this briefing was that the international legal basis for protections of Red Cross identifiers is significantly different from that for IGOs. This raises the possibility that permanent protection for these Red Cross identifiers could potentially be resolved independently from other IGO acronyms. The IGO CRP WG has recently received a final draft of the memo from our outside legal expert in regard to the scope of sovereign immunity for IGOs. Without getting into extensive detail, it varies widely based upon both the type of IGO, the jurisdiction in which the question is raised, and whether the activity in question implicates a core function of the IGO. Therefore, the issue of the Red Cross identifiers should be viewed as significantly different from that of other IGOs. Best regards, Philip Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal Virtualaw LLC 1155 F Street, NW Suite 1050 Washington, DC 20004 202-559-8597/Direct 202-559-8750/Fax 202-255-6172/Cell Twitter: @VlawDC "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org> [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of James M. Bladel Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2016 10:38 AM To: GNSO Council List Subject: [council] Draft Letter to the Board on Red Cross Names & Identifiers Council Colleagues - Attached, please find a draft letter that was developed by Heather, Donna and myself, along with Staff, that sets out to “reboot” work on this topic. I note that this is a topic for the next GNSO Council meeting (Agenda Item #7), and therefore misses the document cutoff date. However, I expect this discussion & work to continue beyond our 12 MAY meeting, both on the list and during calls. Than you, J. ________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.avg.com&d=DQMGaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=4A3LwUUER9_CePZ11QJsr56eryGQiPHEqv4TL7JH87w&m=EHuSp12Ih_zvamZ9u0i84twfLZfVYd4l5IzFaBvJauA&s=BbYB1NQuqXlf69lhCXlLQL0LBo94Uw0kPkyO9SrOrgU&e=> Version: 2016.0.7497 / Virus Database: 4565/12169 - Release Date: 05/05/16
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